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Saye And Sele Lodge, No. 1973.

Uye-Laws was given . The Immediate Past Master proposed a vote of two gnineas to Bro . Creed for what he had done during the nast few months towards getting the Lodge buildings into order . The vote was seconded , and unanimously agreed to . The W . M . then proposed that an engrossed vote of thanks should be presented to the I . P . M .

for what he had doue for the Lodge , and more particularly for the part he had taken in providing the Lodge with a home of its own . No doubt Bro . Church and Bro . Creed had had a share in the work , but to Bro . Bateman was clue the chief credit for what had been accomplished . Bro . the Senior Warden seconded the proposition ,

knowing that to a very great extent the comfort the members thpn enj'iy d was due to such exertions . The vote was unanimously carried . Bro . Bateman acknowledged the further compliment paid to him . Lodge was then closed . Among the brethren present as visitors were Bros . George Bprldel 11 and 1107 . John Strapp P . M . 33 , W . H .

Hedeer W . M . 77 , J . McNeill W . M . 181 , H . H . McNaul W . M , T . Jenkins J . D ., and James Smith 299 , Dr . H . L . Bemnvs W M 1706 " . E . Palmer W . M , and A . Jackson P . M . 913 , C . Jolly W . M . 1074 , W . Fntcher 1365 , G . Kennedy P . M . 1536 . W . H . Thomas P . M . 1669 , H . Gilbert 1838 , Percy Beamish W . M . 1967 , and others .

The Past Master ' s jewel bore the following inscription : — " Presented to Bro . A . H . Bateman , by the Brethren of the Save and Sele Lodge , No . 1973 , 27 th July 1885 , in recognition of his efficiency as Master , and of his untiring energy in connection with the establishment of the Save and Sele Lodge Rooms . "

The banqnet was served in a handsome apartment of the Royal Alfred Institution , and was thoroughly in keeping with the other successes of the day . At its conclusion the customary toasts were given . The Queen and the Craft was followed by that of the Grand Master H . R . H . the Prince of Wales . The Worshipful Master could

not say anything to exalt , the Grand Master in th * estimation of the brethren around him . He felt the mere mention of His Royal Highness ' s name was sufficient to ensure a hearty welcome to the toast . The I . P . M . proposed the Pro Grand Master , the Deouty Grand Master , a ^ d the Grand Officers . They were all good men

worthy of the respect and esteem they had won for themselves in the Craft . Though not permitted to speak politics at their Masonic meetings the brethren could but feel prond when distinguished members of the Craft were raised to high position in the service of the Queen . The W . M . erave the toast of the Provincial Grand Master

Lord Holmesdale . The brethren were acquainted with his lordship , who had been present at the Lodge , not only at its consecration , but also at a subsequent meeting . This was a great honour for so young a Lodge , and he hoped that its future conduct would show that the interest taken in it by the Provincial Master was not misplaced .

The Senior Warden proposed the Deputy Provincial Grand Master and the Provincial Officers . The Deputv was well known throughout the district , and had done a great amount of work in the Province . The other Provincial Grand Officers were brethren worthy of thp hononr conferred on them . He was pleased to say the Saye and

Sele Lodge had not been overlooked ; it had among its members two brethren on whom Provincial honours had been conferred . Bro . Chillingworth , as a representative of Provincial Grand Lodge ,

returned his heartfelt thanks for the reception which had been accorded to the toast . On behalf of himself , and in the name of the Provincial Grand Officers , he tendered tho heartiest wishes for the success of the Lodge . Bro . Bateman submitted the next . It

was a toast which could only raise one feeling—of gratification and pleasnre—being the toast of the evening , the hpalth of the Worshipful Master . The members of the Saye and Sele Lodge only dined together once a year , and then they endeavoured to be happy and communicate happiness ; they had been assisted this year by the

Worshipful Master in no small degree . Doubtless Bro . Elliot would bo much happier as soon as he had got through the work of that day , as there must always be a feeling of nervousness associated with a first , night in the chair . Bro . Bateman was proud of having installed Bro . Elliot , as he considered

him fitted in every way for the office . Those who were brethren at heart knew there was really something in Freemasonry—it was a grand and noble Institution . They should therefore be very careful , not only of the men whom they admitted , but also of those who were selected for office . He had every confidence in the brother installed

that day , and felt convinced be would be able to meet the respons-ibilities of his office as they should be met . Not only would he continue any good impressions which might already have been formed of their young Lodge , but he would add to its reputation . The W . M . returned thanks . He should try and do all he conkl for

[ he good of the Lodge . He felt his position was a most difficult one , in having to follow the brethren who had preceded him in it . Their last Worshipful Master was as perfect a Mason as could be found , and it was really a mystery to him how he learnt the many ceremonies he wa 3 master of . He should do his best to uphold the 1

( > srnity of the Lodgo , and felt assured he should be supported in his endeavours by the brethren . He then referred to the rapid progress wtade by the Lodge , more especially in regard to the Masonic Hall tn ey had erected for themselves . After an existence of only three years they might well bo proud of it . He shonld try to the utmost oi

"is ability to carry on the Lodge as it had been carried on by his Predecessors . He next proposed the health of the I . P . M . Bro . Bateman . He was sure tho toast would be received with all that enthusiasm it deserved . The brethren certainly owed their present "otnfon able quarters to Bro . Bateman's efforts . He had left behind

"n a memorial which would be appreciated by the members for runny years to come . Bro . Bateman desired to thank the brethren , aa he had often had to thank them before , for the very kind a y in which they responded to the toast . His thanks were not Pre idle words , but the true expression of his feelings . He was f eased

to think he had given satisfaction to the members . In any f ) w Lodge it was but natural they should have a number of new asons , and it was therefore mvich move difficult to direct a new ge , than it was ODO firmly e .-tablished , just as it was more diffia fc to steer a new steamer , the machinery of which had not settled

Saye And Sele Lodge, No. 1973.

down to its bearings . He had tho hononr of wearing the Pist Master's jewel of a Lodge upwards of on ) hnndred years of age , but he assured the brethren he experienced no such friction there as had been the case in their new Lodge . He thanked the brethren , not only for the support they had given him , but also for the support

they had given to the cause of which he was the representative . He hoped the Lodge rooms which had just been completed would he of service to the members for many years to come , and he felt that had they been suggested during the Mastership of either his prpdecessor or his snecpssor those brethren would

have done as mnch for them aa he had done . It had however hap . pened that the work was proposed during his term of office , and he had done his best to carry it through successfully . The building was paid for with the exception of th . pir mortgage—all respectable men had a mortgage—and it only remained for them to pay an ordinary

rent for some few years , in orler to clear that off also . He trusted the Lodge might go on prosperously , and ever remain a credit to those Officers who steered it to so success f ul a starting point . Bro . Spurrell added a few woi > Is of congratulation to the I . P . M ., and then the W . M . proposed rhe Visitors . The members of the Saye and Sele

Lodge , like all others , were pleased to receive visitors at their meetings . Bro . Strapp responded . It had been the greatest possible pleasnre to him to bereceivpd as he had been received that dav , and he felt sure all the other Visitors were equally gratified . It was especially pleasing to see so young a Lidge worked up as the Saye

and Sele had been . He hoped it would continue to prosper , and that the I . P . M . would have many more opportunities in the future of showing his appreciation of Freemasonry . Further replies having been given , the W . M . proposed the toast of the Past Masters . He was perfectly Pure this toast would meet an enthusiastic response , as the

brethren knew that each of the Past Masters had done a great amonnt of work to set the Lodge into its present position . He did not wish to brag , but really he felt their Lodge was in such a state that they might boast of what had been done under the direction of the Past Masters . Bro . Spnrrell replied . The association of hia

name with that of the Past Masters had been somewhat unexpected , his position as acting Past Master during the first year of the Lo Ige hardly entitling him to the rank . He felt great gratification at the way in which the Lodge had prospered . He felt that all who aspired to the prominent position of Worshipful Master of the Lodge

would give their fullest attention to the duties , and endeavour to follow the example set by f-ose who had preceded them . Bro . Wood regretted the absence of the first W . M . of the Lodge , Bro . Chilling , worth , who had been obliged to leave earlier in the evening . He ( Bro . Wood ) had felt somewhat nervous at the starting of the Lodge

as to whether they would succeed , but they had started on the right principles ; not merely for the sake of feasting or obtaining Provincial honours , but for the purpose of promoting Freemasonry in the district , and extending its benefits generally . They were particularly fortunate in having among them' several brethren

who worked for the good of Freemasonry rather than wish any personal object in view . The Worshipful Master proposed the toast of the Officers . He spoke of the Senior Warden , who then had already filled the office of Master in other Lodges , and wio had not only allowed the present Master to step over his head , bub

had kindly accepted the office of Senior Warden under him . Bro . Bright , on behalf of the Officers , returned his best thanks . The Officers were all pleased to see their present Master in the chair , and would strive their utmost to fulfil their duties in supporting him . The W . M . next gave the Masonic Press . The Masonic papers were

always ready to help the brethren in any work they might have to do , while their representatives were always ready to come to their meetings whenever asked to do so . Bros . Jolly and Morgan having replied , the I . P . M . proposed our Landlords . Landlords were sometimes obnoxious , but the Trustees and Committee of the Royal

Alfred Institution , who occupied that position towards them were far from being so . They wero most kind in all their dealings , and especially so in allowing the Lodge to hold its annual banquet in the splendid room they then occupied . Their Worshipful Master was himself an officer of the Institution , and his position as Honorary

Surgeon to its inmates was but another evidence of the thorough good fellow they had in the chair . The Worshipful Master responded . He knew the officials of the Institution were only too pleased to lend the rooms of the Royal Alfred Institution for anything the brethren might desire to do in the way of Masonry , and

that they would appreciate the compliment which had iust been paid them by the brethren present . The proceedings were shortly after , waids brought to a conclusion in the regnlar way , and a most gratifying meeting was thus brought to a close . We hope to have the

pleasure of visiting the Saye and Sele Lodge on some fu f ure occasion , feeling sure that while it is conducted in the same spirit as at present prevails , wo shall always enjoy an evening under its hospitable roof .

The Abbey Lodge, Westminster, No. 2030.

THE ABBEY LODGE , WESTMINSTER , No . 2030 .

AN emergency meeting of this flourishing Lodcre was held at the Westminster Town Hall , on Monday , the 20 th nit ., under the presidency of Bro . W . H . Bakpr the W . M . The Offhers present were Bros . F . Seager Hnnt S . W ., W . Sugg J . W . , J . F . Warington Rogers Treasurer , J . E . Shand Secretary , H . B . Soink I . P . M ., J .

Gibson I . G ., R . E . H . Goffin D . C , II . Mainwaring Dunstan A . D . C ., C . C . Piper S ., G . Wheeler assistant S ., Rev . R . J . Simpson Chaplain . These were assisted by Bros . P . M . ' s T . Bull , J . A . Jones and Beasley . The following brethren were also present : —J . M . Burt , H . 0 . Hamborg , J . Hayler , C . Sweetinsr , T . Davies , H .

Hambling , R . Banghan , J . Kent , J . Pain , H . Brinkmann , C . Davie 3 , R . Wake , R . D . Wynne , T . Kmroul , T . H < Irfer , T . J . White , H . Roach , I . M . Hughes , B . Gonner , D . Stroud , J . Balchin , A . F . Jeffery , W . G . Holland , J . D . Dick , A . W . Thompson , Sydney Hodges , Z . A . Berry , G . Cookson , A . W . Hillier , T . Butler , J . A . Eichards , J . S . Manley ,

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Saye And Sele Lodge, No. 1973.

Uye-Laws was given . The Immediate Past Master proposed a vote of two gnineas to Bro . Creed for what he had done during the nast few months towards getting the Lodge buildings into order . The vote was seconded , and unanimously agreed to . The W . M . then proposed that an engrossed vote of thanks should be presented to the I . P . M .

for what he had doue for the Lodge , and more particularly for the part he had taken in providing the Lodge with a home of its own . No doubt Bro . Church and Bro . Creed had had a share in the work , but to Bro . Bateman was clue the chief credit for what had been accomplished . Bro . the Senior Warden seconded the proposition ,

knowing that to a very great extent the comfort the members thpn enj'iy d was due to such exertions . The vote was unanimously carried . Bro . Bateman acknowledged the further compliment paid to him . Lodge was then closed . Among the brethren present as visitors were Bros . George Bprldel 11 and 1107 . John Strapp P . M . 33 , W . H .

Hedeer W . M . 77 , J . McNeill W . M . 181 , H . H . McNaul W . M , T . Jenkins J . D ., and James Smith 299 , Dr . H . L . Bemnvs W M 1706 " . E . Palmer W . M , and A . Jackson P . M . 913 , C . Jolly W . M . 1074 , W . Fntcher 1365 , G . Kennedy P . M . 1536 . W . H . Thomas P . M . 1669 , H . Gilbert 1838 , Percy Beamish W . M . 1967 , and others .

The Past Master ' s jewel bore the following inscription : — " Presented to Bro . A . H . Bateman , by the Brethren of the Save and Sele Lodge , No . 1973 , 27 th July 1885 , in recognition of his efficiency as Master , and of his untiring energy in connection with the establishment of the Save and Sele Lodge Rooms . "

The banqnet was served in a handsome apartment of the Royal Alfred Institution , and was thoroughly in keeping with the other successes of the day . At its conclusion the customary toasts were given . The Queen and the Craft was followed by that of the Grand Master H . R . H . the Prince of Wales . The Worshipful Master could

not say anything to exalt , the Grand Master in th * estimation of the brethren around him . He felt the mere mention of His Royal Highness ' s name was sufficient to ensure a hearty welcome to the toast . The I . P . M . proposed the Pro Grand Master , the Deouty Grand Master , a ^ d the Grand Officers . They were all good men

worthy of the respect and esteem they had won for themselves in the Craft . Though not permitted to speak politics at their Masonic meetings the brethren could but feel prond when distinguished members of the Craft were raised to high position in the service of the Queen . The W . M . erave the toast of the Provincial Grand Master

Lord Holmesdale . The brethren were acquainted with his lordship , who had been present at the Lodge , not only at its consecration , but also at a subsequent meeting . This was a great honour for so young a Lodge , and he hoped that its future conduct would show that the interest taken in it by the Provincial Master was not misplaced .

The Senior Warden proposed the Deputy Provincial Grand Master and the Provincial Officers . The Deputv was well known throughout the district , and had done a great amount of work in the Province . The other Provincial Grand Officers were brethren worthy of thp hononr conferred on them . He was pleased to say the Saye and

Sele Lodge had not been overlooked ; it had among its members two brethren on whom Provincial honours had been conferred . Bro . Chillingworth , as a representative of Provincial Grand Lodge ,

returned his heartfelt thanks for the reception which had been accorded to the toast . On behalf of himself , and in the name of the Provincial Grand Officers , he tendered tho heartiest wishes for the success of the Lodge . Bro . Bateman submitted the next . It

was a toast which could only raise one feeling—of gratification and pleasnre—being the toast of the evening , the hpalth of the Worshipful Master . The members of the Saye and Sele Lodge only dined together once a year , and then they endeavoured to be happy and communicate happiness ; they had been assisted this year by the

Worshipful Master in no small degree . Doubtless Bro . Elliot would bo much happier as soon as he had got through the work of that day , as there must always be a feeling of nervousness associated with a first , night in the chair . Bro . Bateman was proud of having installed Bro . Elliot , as he considered

him fitted in every way for the office . Those who were brethren at heart knew there was really something in Freemasonry—it was a grand and noble Institution . They should therefore be very careful , not only of the men whom they admitted , but also of those who were selected for office . He had every confidence in the brother installed

that day , and felt convinced be would be able to meet the respons-ibilities of his office as they should be met . Not only would he continue any good impressions which might already have been formed of their young Lodge , but he would add to its reputation . The W . M . returned thanks . He should try and do all he conkl for

[ he good of the Lodge . He felt his position was a most difficult one , in having to follow the brethren who had preceded him in it . Their last Worshipful Master was as perfect a Mason as could be found , and it was really a mystery to him how he learnt the many ceremonies he wa 3 master of . He should do his best to uphold the 1

( > srnity of the Lodgo , and felt assured he should be supported in his endeavours by the brethren . He then referred to the rapid progress wtade by the Lodge , more especially in regard to the Masonic Hall tn ey had erected for themselves . After an existence of only three years they might well bo proud of it . He shonld try to the utmost oi

"is ability to carry on the Lodge as it had been carried on by his Predecessors . He next proposed the health of the I . P . M . Bro . Bateman . He was sure tho toast would be received with all that enthusiasm it deserved . The brethren certainly owed their present "otnfon able quarters to Bro . Bateman's efforts . He had left behind

"n a memorial which would be appreciated by the members for runny years to come . Bro . Bateman desired to thank the brethren , aa he had often had to thank them before , for the very kind a y in which they responded to the toast . His thanks were not Pre idle words , but the true expression of his feelings . He was f eased

to think he had given satisfaction to the members . In any f ) w Lodge it was but natural they should have a number of new asons , and it was therefore mvich move difficult to direct a new ge , than it was ODO firmly e .-tablished , just as it was more diffia fc to steer a new steamer , the machinery of which had not settled

Saye And Sele Lodge, No. 1973.

down to its bearings . He had tho hononr of wearing the Pist Master's jewel of a Lodge upwards of on ) hnndred years of age , but he assured the brethren he experienced no such friction there as had been the case in their new Lodge . He thanked the brethren , not only for the support they had given him , but also for the support

they had given to the cause of which he was the representative . He hoped the Lodge rooms which had just been completed would he of service to the members for many years to come , and he felt that had they been suggested during the Mastership of either his prpdecessor or his snecpssor those brethren would

have done as mnch for them aa he had done . It had however hap . pened that the work was proposed during his term of office , and he had done his best to carry it through successfully . The building was paid for with the exception of th . pir mortgage—all respectable men had a mortgage—and it only remained for them to pay an ordinary

rent for some few years , in orler to clear that off also . He trusted the Lodge might go on prosperously , and ever remain a credit to those Officers who steered it to so success f ul a starting point . Bro . Spurrell added a few woi > Is of congratulation to the I . P . M ., and then the W . M . proposed rhe Visitors . The members of the Saye and Sele

Lodge , like all others , were pleased to receive visitors at their meetings . Bro . Strapp responded . It had been the greatest possible pleasnre to him to bereceivpd as he had been received that dav , and he felt sure all the other Visitors were equally gratified . It was especially pleasing to see so young a Lidge worked up as the Saye

and Sele had been . He hoped it would continue to prosper , and that the I . P . M . would have many more opportunities in the future of showing his appreciation of Freemasonry . Further replies having been given , the W . M . proposed the toast of the Past Masters . He was perfectly Pure this toast would meet an enthusiastic response , as the

brethren knew that each of the Past Masters had done a great amonnt of work to set the Lodge into its present position . He did not wish to brag , but really he felt their Lodge was in such a state that they might boast of what had been done under the direction of the Past Masters . Bro . Spnrrell replied . The association of hia

name with that of the Past Masters had been somewhat unexpected , his position as acting Past Master during the first year of the Lo Ige hardly entitling him to the rank . He felt great gratification at the way in which the Lodge had prospered . He felt that all who aspired to the prominent position of Worshipful Master of the Lodge

would give their fullest attention to the duties , and endeavour to follow the example set by f-ose who had preceded them . Bro . Wood regretted the absence of the first W . M . of the Lodge , Bro . Chilling , worth , who had been obliged to leave earlier in the evening . He ( Bro . Wood ) had felt somewhat nervous at the starting of the Lodge

as to whether they would succeed , but they had started on the right principles ; not merely for the sake of feasting or obtaining Provincial honours , but for the purpose of promoting Freemasonry in the district , and extending its benefits generally . They were particularly fortunate in having among them' several brethren

who worked for the good of Freemasonry rather than wish any personal object in view . The Worshipful Master proposed the toast of the Officers . He spoke of the Senior Warden , who then had already filled the office of Master in other Lodges , and wio had not only allowed the present Master to step over his head , bub

had kindly accepted the office of Senior Warden under him . Bro . Bright , on behalf of the Officers , returned his best thanks . The Officers were all pleased to see their present Master in the chair , and would strive their utmost to fulfil their duties in supporting him . The W . M . next gave the Masonic Press . The Masonic papers were

always ready to help the brethren in any work they might have to do , while their representatives were always ready to come to their meetings whenever asked to do so . Bros . Jolly and Morgan having replied , the I . P . M . proposed our Landlords . Landlords were sometimes obnoxious , but the Trustees and Committee of the Royal

Alfred Institution , who occupied that position towards them were far from being so . They wero most kind in all their dealings , and especially so in allowing the Lodge to hold its annual banquet in the splendid room they then occupied . Their Worshipful Master was himself an officer of the Institution , and his position as Honorary

Surgeon to its inmates was but another evidence of the thorough good fellow they had in the chair . The Worshipful Master responded . He knew the officials of the Institution were only too pleased to lend the rooms of the Royal Alfred Institution for anything the brethren might desire to do in the way of Masonry , and

that they would appreciate the compliment which had iust been paid them by the brethren present . The proceedings were shortly after , waids brought to a conclusion in the regnlar way , and a most gratifying meeting was thus brought to a close . We hope to have the

pleasure of visiting the Saye and Sele Lodge on some fu f ure occasion , feeling sure that while it is conducted in the same spirit as at present prevails , wo shall always enjoy an evening under its hospitable roof .

The Abbey Lodge, Westminster, No. 2030.

THE ABBEY LODGE , WESTMINSTER , No . 2030 .

AN emergency meeting of this flourishing Lodcre was held at the Westminster Town Hall , on Monday , the 20 th nit ., under the presidency of Bro . W . H . Bakpr the W . M . The Offhers present were Bros . F . Seager Hnnt S . W ., W . Sugg J . W . , J . F . Warington Rogers Treasurer , J . E . Shand Secretary , H . B . Soink I . P . M ., J .

Gibson I . G ., R . E . H . Goffin D . C , II . Mainwaring Dunstan A . D . C ., C . C . Piper S ., G . Wheeler assistant S ., Rev . R . J . Simpson Chaplain . These were assisted by Bros . P . M . ' s T . Bull , J . A . Jones and Beasley . The following brethren were also present : —J . M . Burt , H . 0 . Hamborg , J . Hayler , C . Sweetinsr , T . Davies , H .

Hambling , R . Banghan , J . Kent , J . Pain , H . Brinkmann , C . Davie 3 , R . Wake , R . D . Wynne , T . Kmroul , T . H < Irfer , T . J . White , H . Roach , I . M . Hughes , B . Gonner , D . Stroud , J . Balchin , A . F . Jeffery , W . G . Holland , J . D . Dick , A . W . Thompson , Sydney Hodges , Z . A . Berry , G . Cookson , A . W . Hillier , T . Butler , J . A . Eichards , J . S . Manley ,

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