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Q: And The Dunckerley Question, Once More.
forward . For instance , I had once occasion to hnnfc up tho memoirs of the Duko of Cumberland , son of Georgo tho 3 rd , whom I funnel described in the Gentlemau ' s Magazine , without an ; i fault * , ov us u very much abused personage Well ; iu the . second volume of the said Magazine for 171 * 5 , page 973 , I found tho following , among the obituary notices .
"At Portsmouth , in his 71 st year , Thomas Dunckerley , Esq ., Provincial Grand Master of Masonry , and pretty generally supposed to have been a natural son of Georgo 2 nd . " The above notico appeared in November , but iu the Decembei Number , on page 1052 , 1 found the other editorial , which appeared in the FREEMASON ' S CHRONICLE , 15 th Jnne 1878 , p 389 , in which Sir Edward Walpole , the second son of Sir Robert Walpoel , who is
admitted to have known Dunckerley from his childhood . Tho said Sir Edward , however , seems to have repudiated Dunckerley ' s pretension to royal parentage as a piece of humbug . Sir Edward is made to say , " that ho had afc all times been his ( Dunckerley ' s ) friend , thafc ho believed him meritorious in the capacity in which he had served , but he [ Sir Edward ] could never be made an instrument of imposing this sioru as true . "
Having answered Br . Q . s question , I shall take tho liberty of asking him also a question , viz ., " That a foremost Mason " should be flattered during his life and after death in a Masonio Magazine , " is only in the order of things , " but how came ifc that tho Editor of the Gentleman ' s Magazine of 1795 , who , as a rule , took care to
whitewash the sins and shortcomings of tho snbjccts of his memoirs ; stating in the November Number that ifc was generally supposed that Dunckerley was the natural son of George 2 nd , should in the snecoeding month have charged his opinion , as may bo inferred from his second editorial ?
In conclusion , I beg to state , thafc unless my opponent can scrape up somo facts unknown at present , ifc is useless to continuo the disenssion . It is possible thafc such new facts may yet be discovered , but they have to be searched for , and it is my opinion thafc something may bo found about Dunckerley in the newspapers and magazines of 1795 . As no precise date is given in the Gentleman ' s Magazine of the demise of Dunckerley , ifc will be necessary to search theso
publications , say , from tho month of September ; perhaps some brother in Portsmouth would take tho trouble to hunt up the Portsmouth papers of 1795 . I think that something conld yet be found to throw light upon the subject if somebody in England wonld take a little trouble ; and should my friendly opponent succeed in such a discovery , which may change my opinion onco more , I shall most heartily thank him for it . Boston , 17 th January 1879 .
Affability Chapter, No. 317.
AFFABILITY CHAPTER , No . 317 .
r PHE regular Convocation was held at Freemasons' Hall , Cooper-- * - street , Manchester , ou Thursday , the 20 th ult . Present—Comps . JobuE . Smethurst M . E . Z ., James Dawson H ., J . E . Lees J ., W . Nicholl S . E ., J . F . Watts S . N ., J . B . Sowter 1 st A . S ., W . P . Norris Treas ., Tetter Org ., and Comps . W . F . Towle P . Z . P . P . G . P . S ., J . Blandon P . Z . P . G . S . B ., J . Hall P . Z . P . P . G . P . S ., J .
Higginbottom P . Z . P . P . G . R ., J . H . Sillitoe P . Z . P . G . D . of C , Jas . Sly jun ., J . W . Almond , John Church , E . De Yongh , II . L . Rocca , G . Summerfield , G . A . Packwood , A . S . Radford , H . E . G . Bayley , J . Sumner , S . D . McKellen , R . Tomlins , Alfred Love , T . Watson , J . Cavauah , J . G . Batty , J . Frankenburg , L . Simondson , D . Donbavand , Ac . Visitors—Comps . E . Nathan P . Z . 204 , J . Hall Z . 210 , W . R .
Batchelor P . Z . 524 , S . M . Davies FREEMASONS' CHRONICLE , & C . The Chapter was oponed according to ancient rite , aud the minutes of last Convocation read and ratified . This being tho occasion for the installation of i ' rincipals Comp . James Dawson the M . E . Z . elect was installed by E . Comp . J . II . Sillitoe P . Z ., the H . ( Comp . J . E . Lees ) was installed by E . Comp . J . Hall P . Z ., and the J . ( Wm . P . Norris )
by E . Comp . W . F . Towle P . Z . The M . E . Z . then proceeded to invest his Officers for the next twelvemonths as follow : —Bros . William Nicholl S . E ., J . W . Watts S . N ., William Sowter P . S ., F . Rocca 1 st A . S ., John Church 2 nd A . S ., Tetter Org ., James Sly Janitor . The Treasnrer being absent , his investiture was deferred . A vote of thanks was proposed by Comp . Sillitoe , seconded by Comp
Higginbottom , to Comp . Norris , late Treasurer , for his services . This was carried unanimously . A vote of £ 5 5 s was moved by Comp . Sillitoo and seconded by Comp . J . E . Lees , Second Principal , to tho East Lancashire Educational Institution , ont of the funds of the Chapter , —carried unanimously . The business of the evening being ended the Chapter was closed , and the Companions , by command of tho
M . E . Z ., adjourned to refreshment , where in due course Comp . Dawson proposed tho customary Loyal nnd Royal Arch toasts . The I . P . Z . , in proposiug the health of the % vorthy Comp . who occupied the chair , said tho most important toast of the evening devolved upon him . He felt sure all the Companions had known their esteemed Chief long enough to bo awaro of his capability to
fill the important office confided to him , and they had additional proof that evening of his ability to rule the Chapter , and despatch tho business before it . In addition to bis ample capabilities , ho possessed an amiable disposition , which endeared him to those who needed his counsel . Dnring his year of office he will shine forth and lighten the footsteps of thoso who may como under his direction . The toast was drank most enthusiastically . The
M . E . Z . highly appreciated the kindness which prompted the I . P . Z . in proposing his health . He was always grateful to the Comps . for their past indulgences ; particularly so for their mark of esteem tonight . He felt they knew ho would do his allotted task to the ntmost , and he hoped the Chapter would progress . Ho now had a pleasing duty to perform in proposing the health of tbe Installing Officers . It was gratifying to know that the Chapter possessed
Affability Chapter, No. 317.
Companions who could and did perform their duty in any post thoy wero called upon to till , in a manner that conld not bo excelled . E . Comp . Sil'itco , iu responding , said ho had iustallod tho M . E . Z :. into his exalted ofiicu with a deal of pleasure : had watched his career in the Craft ; had installed him Jun . ami S . W . aud W . M ., tho gratification ho now experienced iu extending aid ou this important occasion
must bo apparent to all . Comp . Hall followed , to the same purport . Comp . J . E . Lees proposed tho health of tho Visitors , extending a cordial welcomo to all ; ho trusted their visit had been mado agreeable , and productive of some bonefit . Ho united with tho toast tho names of Comp . Batchelor , a Military Comp . whoso natno did not transpire , aud Comp . Davies—all of whom returned thoir best thanks
for tho honour conferred . Comp . Bladou proposed the health of tho Officers ; iu doing so he remarked thafc every offico was filled by Comps ., who would do their duty , aud wero worthy of tho trust reposed in them . E . Comp . II . was very grateful for tho honour dono him and the Officers of tho Chapter ; ho was much attached to tho Chapter . If by regular attendance aud strict attention
he could discharge tho important duties committed to his charge he should not fail . Comp . Nicholl was pleased to bo remembered in the good wishes of the Comps . Others followed , to tho same purport . Comp . Dawson noxt proposed tho health of Past Principal Smethurst , and bore witness to the energy and courtesy with which ho discharged his high offico . Aftor Comp . Smethurst had replied , tho M . E . Z . said ho was pleased to seo Comp . Davies present , as a representative of
tho Masonic Press . He had had the pleasure ot meeting him on a previous occasion . He hoped Comp . Davies would visit this Chapter some timo when there was not such a rush of business as they had that evening experienced . Tho toast was duly honoured , and Comp . Davies thanked Comp . Dawson for his kind remarks , after which the health of tho Past Z . 's was proposed and duly honoured ; after this tho last toast of tho evening was given , when tho Comps . separated .
Chapter of Prosperity , No . 290 , Huddersfield . —The last regular convocation of the above Chapter was held at Freemasons' Hall , South-parade , on Wednesday , 2 ( 5 th February . Tho Chapter was opened punctually at G . 30 p . m . ( being the time called ) by Comps . Johu'W . Turner Z ., William Smith P . Z . H . ( for Comp . Sykes who was absent ) , Allen Haigh J . Tho minutes of last
convocation having been read and confirmed , tho ballot was taken for Bro . John Joshua Brook , of tbo Hnddersfield Lodge , No . 290 , and being favourable , he was exalted to the Supremo Degree of a Royal Arch Mason by the M . E . Z . ; the lectures were given respectively by Comps . Wall , the M . E . Z ., and Comp . Lewis Brierley , in such au efficient manner as to meet with tho approval of all . The next
business was , " To elect the Officers of the Chapter for the ensuine year , " which resulted as follows—Allen llaigh nnauimously elected Z ., George Sykes H ., and the following all unanimons Thomas Farrai J ., Cornelins Whoawill re-elected Scribe E ., Joseph Hopkinson Scribe N ., B . Hutchinson P . Z . Treas ., William Smith P . Z . Registrar , Lewis B . Brierley P . S ., who appointed Thomas Beanland and William Dyson
his Assistants , and John William Rhodes Director of Ceremonies . We should state that the Treasnrer and Registrar were re-elected , the Treasurer having held the appointment into tho teens of years . Alfred Smith was re-elected Janitor . The business of tbo evening being ended , the Chapter was closed until November , except , in case of emergency . The Companions then adjourned to refreshment
where the usnal toasts were duly honoured . The M . E . Z . in responding to his health acknowledged tho kindness he had received from every member of the Chapter , and thanked his Officers for the very efficient manner they had done their duty ; he had no doubt his successor would havo as happy and prosperous a year as himself , and
would , at tho expiration of his term , look back with proud feelings to the time he held the supremo office of Z . in tho Chapter of Prosperity . The Companions separated at about 10 . 30 , having spent an agreeable , pleasant and instrnetivo evening . We noticed Comps . Dore and Crowther P . Z . ' s , from the Chapter of Perseverance 275 , also Comp . Smith Scribe E . Chapter of Trnth 521 , as Tisitnrs .
Ancient Carthage Chapter K . A ., No . 1717 . — A regular meeting of this Chapter was held at the Masonic Hall , Tnnis , on the 27 th February . Present : —E . Comps . A . M . Broadley Z ., Dr . Mnrrniani H ., tho Baron James Castellnuovo J ., Comps . J . H . Stevens E ., G . Pentecost N ., M . Schembi P . S ., P . M . Paleologo S . S ., G . B . Cassar J . S ., T . C . Clement D . C ., Dr . Cassanello Registrar , E . Gardelle
Steward , G . Eytnon Janitor ; and twelve members . The first business of the evening was to instal Dr . Mugniani as H ., and P . M . Baron Castellnuovo as J . This change was rendered necessary by the lamented death of E . Comp . N . Lenghi 33 ° II ., who died on tho 3 rd Febrnnry , and unless the Chapter had had another P . M . amongst its members , this misfortune would have caused tho suspension of
its labours for a lengthened period . The ceremony being completed , the newly-installed Principals wero duly saluted , and tho First Principal alluded to tho death of their Comp . Lenghi , on which account the Chapter decided to remain in monrniug up to the snmmer vacation . The election proving favourable for l ? ros . Arieti , Cnrletto ,
Enriqnez and Darmon , they were dnly exalted , in the Italian langnnge . E . Comps . Mngnaini and Castellunovo delivered the lectures of their respective chairs . The charitable collection having been made , tho Chapter was closed , and the Companions adjourned to a banquet .
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Q: And The Dunckerley Question, Once More.
forward . For instance , I had once occasion to hnnfc up tho memoirs of the Duko of Cumberland , son of Georgo tho 3 rd , whom I funnel described in the Gentlemau ' s Magazine , without an ; i fault * , ov us u very much abused personage Well ; iu the . second volume of the said Magazine for 171 * 5 , page 973 , I found tho following , among the obituary notices .
"At Portsmouth , in his 71 st year , Thomas Dunckerley , Esq ., Provincial Grand Master of Masonry , and pretty generally supposed to have been a natural son of Georgo 2 nd . " The above notico appeared in November , but iu the Decembei Number , on page 1052 , 1 found the other editorial , which appeared in the FREEMASON ' S CHRONICLE , 15 th Jnne 1878 , p 389 , in which Sir Edward Walpole , the second son of Sir Robert Walpoel , who is
admitted to have known Dunckerley from his childhood . Tho said Sir Edward , however , seems to have repudiated Dunckerley ' s pretension to royal parentage as a piece of humbug . Sir Edward is made to say , " that ho had afc all times been his ( Dunckerley ' s ) friend , thafc ho believed him meritorious in the capacity in which he had served , but he [ Sir Edward ] could never be made an instrument of imposing this sioru as true . "
Having answered Br . Q . s question , I shall take tho liberty of asking him also a question , viz ., " That a foremost Mason " should be flattered during his life and after death in a Masonio Magazine , " is only in the order of things , " but how came ifc that tho Editor of the Gentleman ' s Magazine of 1795 , who , as a rule , took care to
whitewash the sins and shortcomings of tho snbjccts of his memoirs ; stating in the November Number that ifc was generally supposed that Dunckerley was the natural son of George 2 nd , should in the snecoeding month have charged his opinion , as may bo inferred from his second editorial ?
In conclusion , I beg to state , thafc unless my opponent can scrape up somo facts unknown at present , ifc is useless to continuo the disenssion . It is possible thafc such new facts may yet be discovered , but they have to be searched for , and it is my opinion thafc something may bo found about Dunckerley in the newspapers and magazines of 1795 . As no precise date is given in the Gentleman ' s Magazine of the demise of Dunckerley , ifc will be necessary to search theso
publications , say , from tho month of September ; perhaps some brother in Portsmouth would take tho trouble to hunt up the Portsmouth papers of 1795 . I think that something conld yet be found to throw light upon the subject if somebody in England wonld take a little trouble ; and should my friendly opponent succeed in such a discovery , which may change my opinion onco more , I shall most heartily thank him for it . Boston , 17 th January 1879 .
Affability Chapter, No. 317.
AFFABILITY CHAPTER , No . 317 .
r PHE regular Convocation was held at Freemasons' Hall , Cooper-- * - street , Manchester , ou Thursday , the 20 th ult . Present—Comps . JobuE . Smethurst M . E . Z ., James Dawson H ., J . E . Lees J ., W . Nicholl S . E ., J . F . Watts S . N ., J . B . Sowter 1 st A . S ., W . P . Norris Treas ., Tetter Org ., and Comps . W . F . Towle P . Z . P . P . G . P . S ., J . Blandon P . Z . P . G . S . B ., J . Hall P . Z . P . P . G . P . S ., J .
Higginbottom P . Z . P . P . G . R ., J . H . Sillitoe P . Z . P . G . D . of C , Jas . Sly jun ., J . W . Almond , John Church , E . De Yongh , II . L . Rocca , G . Summerfield , G . A . Packwood , A . S . Radford , H . E . G . Bayley , J . Sumner , S . D . McKellen , R . Tomlins , Alfred Love , T . Watson , J . Cavauah , J . G . Batty , J . Frankenburg , L . Simondson , D . Donbavand , Ac . Visitors—Comps . E . Nathan P . Z . 204 , J . Hall Z . 210 , W . R .
Batchelor P . Z . 524 , S . M . Davies FREEMASONS' CHRONICLE , & C . The Chapter was oponed according to ancient rite , aud the minutes of last Convocation read and ratified . This being tho occasion for the installation of i ' rincipals Comp . James Dawson the M . E . Z . elect was installed by E . Comp . J . II . Sillitoe P . Z ., the H . ( Comp . J . E . Lees ) was installed by E . Comp . J . Hall P . Z ., and the J . ( Wm . P . Norris )
by E . Comp . W . F . Towle P . Z . The M . E . Z . then proceeded to invest his Officers for the next twelvemonths as follow : —Bros . William Nicholl S . E ., J . W . Watts S . N ., William Sowter P . S ., F . Rocca 1 st A . S ., John Church 2 nd A . S ., Tetter Org ., James Sly Janitor . The Treasnrer being absent , his investiture was deferred . A vote of thanks was proposed by Comp . Sillitoe , seconded by Comp
Higginbottom , to Comp . Norris , late Treasurer , for his services . This was carried unanimously . A vote of £ 5 5 s was moved by Comp . Sillitoo and seconded by Comp . J . E . Lees , Second Principal , to tho East Lancashire Educational Institution , ont of the funds of the Chapter , —carried unanimously . The business of the evening being ended the Chapter was closed , and the Companions , by command of tho
M . E . Z ., adjourned to refreshment , where in due course Comp . Dawson proposed tho customary Loyal nnd Royal Arch toasts . The I . P . Z . , in proposiug the health of the % vorthy Comp . who occupied the chair , said tho most important toast of the evening devolved upon him . He felt sure all the Companions had known their esteemed Chief long enough to bo awaro of his capability to
fill the important office confided to him , and they had additional proof that evening of his ability to rule the Chapter , and despatch tho business before it . In addition to bis ample capabilities , ho possessed an amiable disposition , which endeared him to those who needed his counsel . Dnring his year of office he will shine forth and lighten the footsteps of thoso who may como under his direction . The toast was drank most enthusiastically . The
M . E . Z . highly appreciated the kindness which prompted the I . P . Z . in proposing his health . He was always grateful to the Comps . for their past indulgences ; particularly so for their mark of esteem tonight . He felt they knew ho would do his allotted task to the ntmost , and he hoped the Chapter would progress . Ho now had a pleasing duty to perform in proposing the health of tbe Installing Officers . It was gratifying to know that the Chapter possessed
Affability Chapter, No. 317.
Companions who could and did perform their duty in any post thoy wero called upon to till , in a manner that conld not bo excelled . E . Comp . Sil'itco , iu responding , said ho had iustallod tho M . E . Z :. into his exalted ofiicu with a deal of pleasure : had watched his career in the Craft ; had installed him Jun . ami S . W . aud W . M ., tho gratification ho now experienced iu extending aid ou this important occasion
must bo apparent to all . Comp . Hall followed , to the same purport . Comp . J . E . Lees proposed tho health of tho Visitors , extending a cordial welcomo to all ; ho trusted their visit had been mado agreeable , and productive of some bonefit . Ho united with tho toast tho names of Comp . Batchelor , a Military Comp . whoso natno did not transpire , aud Comp . Davies—all of whom returned thoir best thanks
for tho honour conferred . Comp . Bladou proposed the health of tho Officers ; iu doing so he remarked thafc every offico was filled by Comps ., who would do their duty , aud wero worthy of tho trust reposed in them . E . Comp . II . was very grateful for tho honour dono him and the Officers of tho Chapter ; ho was much attached to tho Chapter . If by regular attendance aud strict attention
he could discharge tho important duties committed to his charge he should not fail . Comp . Nicholl was pleased to bo remembered in the good wishes of the Comps . Others followed , to tho same purport . Comp . Dawson noxt proposed tho health of Past Principal Smethurst , and bore witness to the energy and courtesy with which ho discharged his high offico . Aftor Comp . Smethurst had replied , tho M . E . Z . said ho was pleased to seo Comp . Davies present , as a representative of
tho Masonic Press . He had had the pleasure ot meeting him on a previous occasion . He hoped Comp . Davies would visit this Chapter some timo when there was not such a rush of business as they had that evening experienced . Tho toast was duly honoured , and Comp . Davies thanked Comp . Dawson for his kind remarks , after which the health of tho Past Z . 's was proposed and duly honoured ; after this tho last toast of tho evening was given , when tho Comps . separated .
Chapter of Prosperity , No . 290 , Huddersfield . —The last regular convocation of the above Chapter was held at Freemasons' Hall , South-parade , on Wednesday , 2 ( 5 th February . Tho Chapter was opened punctually at G . 30 p . m . ( being the time called ) by Comps . Johu'W . Turner Z ., William Smith P . Z . H . ( for Comp . Sykes who was absent ) , Allen Haigh J . Tho minutes of last
convocation having been read and confirmed , tho ballot was taken for Bro . John Joshua Brook , of tbo Hnddersfield Lodge , No . 290 , and being favourable , he was exalted to the Supremo Degree of a Royal Arch Mason by the M . E . Z . ; the lectures were given respectively by Comps . Wall , the M . E . Z ., and Comp . Lewis Brierley , in such au efficient manner as to meet with tho approval of all . The next
business was , " To elect the Officers of the Chapter for the ensuine year , " which resulted as follows—Allen llaigh nnauimously elected Z ., George Sykes H ., and the following all unanimons Thomas Farrai J ., Cornelins Whoawill re-elected Scribe E ., Joseph Hopkinson Scribe N ., B . Hutchinson P . Z . Treas ., William Smith P . Z . Registrar , Lewis B . Brierley P . S ., who appointed Thomas Beanland and William Dyson
his Assistants , and John William Rhodes Director of Ceremonies . We should state that the Treasnrer and Registrar were re-elected , the Treasurer having held the appointment into tho teens of years . Alfred Smith was re-elected Janitor . The business of tbo evening being ended , the Chapter was closed until November , except , in case of emergency . The Companions then adjourned to refreshment
where the usnal toasts were duly honoured . The M . E . Z . in responding to his health acknowledged tho kindness he had received from every member of the Chapter , and thanked his Officers for the very efficient manner they had done their duty ; he had no doubt his successor would havo as happy and prosperous a year as himself , and
would , at tho expiration of his term , look back with proud feelings to the time he held the supremo office of Z . in tho Chapter of Prosperity . The Companions separated at about 10 . 30 , having spent an agreeable , pleasant and instrnetivo evening . We noticed Comps . Dore and Crowther P . Z . ' s , from the Chapter of Perseverance 275 , also Comp . Smith Scribe E . Chapter of Trnth 521 , as Tisitnrs .
Ancient Carthage Chapter K . A ., No . 1717 . — A regular meeting of this Chapter was held at the Masonic Hall , Tnnis , on the 27 th February . Present : —E . Comps . A . M . Broadley Z ., Dr . Mnrrniani H ., tho Baron James Castellnuovo J ., Comps . J . H . Stevens E ., G . Pentecost N ., M . Schembi P . S ., P . M . Paleologo S . S ., G . B . Cassar J . S ., T . C . Clement D . C ., Dr . Cassanello Registrar , E . Gardelle
Steward , G . Eytnon Janitor ; and twelve members . The first business of the evening was to instal Dr . Mugniani as H ., and P . M . Baron Castellnuovo as J . This change was rendered necessary by the lamented death of E . Comp . N . Lenghi 33 ° II ., who died on tho 3 rd Febrnnry , and unless the Chapter had had another P . M . amongst its members , this misfortune would have caused tho suspension of
its labours for a lengthened period . The ceremony being completed , the newly-installed Principals wero duly saluted , and tho First Principal alluded to tho death of their Comp . Lenghi , on which account the Chapter decided to remain in monrniug up to the snmmer vacation . The election proving favourable for l ? ros . Arieti , Cnrletto ,
Enriqnez and Darmon , they were dnly exalted , in the Italian langnnge . E . Comps . Mngnaini and Castellunovo delivered the lectures of their respective chairs . The charitable collection having been made , tho Chapter was closed , and the Companions adjourned to a banquet .
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