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Grand Lodge Of Scotland.

Robert Burns , Christchurcb , Canterbury , New Zealand . Eureka , Christianstadt , St . Croix , Danish West India Isles . Eosslvn St . Clair , Bosslin . Prince ' s , Glasgow . Provincial Grand Masters were then appointed for three provinces ' as follows : —Provincial Grand Master for Now Zealand , North

Island , Bro . tho Honourable Frederick Whittaker , Provincial Grand Master for South Australia , Bvo . Connor , and Provincial Grand Master for Lanarkshire , Middle Ward , vaoant by the lamented death of Bro . Merry , Bro . Forrest , Provost of Hamilton , Bro . K . D . Walker Past Grand Master , was appointed representative to Grand Lodge of West Virginia . Grand Lodge next approved a minute of Grand

Committee , confirming ; the appointment of Bro . D . Kinnear as Grand Cashier , at an annual salary of £ 200 , and left with Grand Committee to consider a report as to the duties of Grand Secretary and Cashier . An address whioh had been sent to the Emperor of Germany on the occasion of his eightieth birthday , and the translation of a communication in reply , were laid on the table . Tho actin ?

Grand Master then introduced to tho brethren Lord Invorario , remarking on the gratification with which they hailed members of tbe noble families of Scotland promoting the interests of the Craft . ^ His lordship presented a petition from the Lodge of Kincardineshire praying to be disjoined from the Provincial Grand Lodge of Forfarshire , and erected into a province .

It was countersigned by Lord Eamsay , Provincial Grand Master of Forfarshire , and Lord Inverarie explained that there were so many Lodges in Forfarshire that those in the adjacent county desired to form a province b y themselves . They had five Lodges at present , and he hoped two others would soon be revived . They might have

their difficulties , but be * trusted these would not be more numerous than those of the Glasgow province . The petition was unanimously sustained , and Kincardineshire was erected into a province , of which it was stated Lord Inverarie will be Provincial Grand Master . Some other business having been transacted , Grand Lodge was closed .

Tredegar Lodge Of Instruction, No. 1625.

TREDEGAR LODGE OF INSTRUCTION , No . 1625 .

THIS Lodsre met as usual on Monday , the 7 th inst ., at the Eoyal Hotel , Mile-end . road . Bros . Geo . Hollington W . M ., Cambridge S . W ., Berry J . W ., E . Gottheil P . M . Preceptor , T . J . Barnes P . M . Treasurer , Rawley jun . S . D ., Clark J . D ., Humm I . G . There were also present Bros . Charles Lacey P . M ., Huggefc , who acted as Secretary pro tern , Wharman , Anderson , Frankan . Myer , Hallett , Andrews

, Giles , I . Posener , A . Posener , Hubbard , Campbell , & c . The ceremony of initiation was rehearsed , Bro . A . Posener being candidate . The first and second sections of the lecture were worked by Bro . Gottheil , assisted by the brethren .

Bro . Hollington then rose and said : Most of you will remember that when Eastern Star and Tredegar Lodges amalgamated , it was arranged that the fact should be communicated to Bro . Terry , in order that the proxies belonging to the former should for the future be sent in the name of the latter . Accordingly , I wrote as follows : —

DEAK BRO . TERRY , — I am directed by the brethren of the Eastern Star Lodge of Instruction , now amalgamated and working under the name of the Tredegar Lodge of Instruction , to request you to kindly forward the Lodge votes at your earliest convenience .

Trusting you are well , Believe me , yours fraternally , GEO . HOUINGTON , Hon . Sec . To this the following reply was sent : —

Office , No . 4 Freemasons' Hall , London , W . C ., 1 st May 1877 . DEAR BRO . HOLMNGTOIV , —I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your letter , asking for the votes of the Eastern Star Lodge of Instruction to be forwarded . Before I can do so , it will be necessary for you to send me acopy of the resolution passed by the Eastern Star Lodge , No . 95 , withdrawing its sanction from the Lodge of Instruction meeting any longer under its warrantand giving its consent to the

, transference of the Lodge of Instruction to the Tredegar Lodge . Unless this be done , according to the laws of this Institution the Eastern Star Lodge of Instruction will be considered as having ceased to exist , and that its votes and all its privileges have died out . Directly yon are able to reply to this , I shall be only too happy to send the proxies .

J . TERRY , See . Bro . Hollington concluded by saying , You . have now the correspondence before you , and I now leave the matter for you to discuss . Bro . Charles Lacey , the W . M . of the Tredegar Lodge , was of opinion that Bro . Terry demanded only that which was fair and in accordance

with the laws which govern the Institution ; and thought it was necessary to obtain the sanction of the Mother Lodge if it be desired to retain the privileges appertaining to the Lodge of Instruction ; ho would suggest that the sanction of the Mother Lodge should be obtained to enable the interests and privileges to be transferred from

° ne Lodge to the other ; and , together with a copy of the resolution Passed at the meeting at which the amalgamation took place , bo forwarded to the Secretaries of the Institutions . ( Hear , hear . ) Bro . T . J . Barnes thought a Mother Lodge had no power to interfere except in a case where the proceedings are not conducted in

conformity with the Constitutions or committal of some other illegal act . The Mother Lodge then had the power , nay , it behoves it , to withdraw the sanction from a Lodge of Instruction ; for upon it rests the responsibility . But it possesses no other power in any shape or way . But let me ask , has the Mother Lodge concerned itself about

Tredegar Lodge Of Instruction, No. 1625.

this Lodge , or ia it cognisant that it exists at all . Has any one of its members ever visited this Lodge ? Very rarely indeed . This Lodge was originated by Bro . Gottheil many years ago , under the name of tho " Faith . " The Lodge of Faith , No . 141 , gave sanction to establish an Instruction Lodge , none of its members being aware that such a Lodge already existed . When that fact came

to light , application was made to tho Eastern Star Lodge , which very kindly acceded to the request . Now that is some some years ago , and he ( Bro . Barnes ) , was of opinion that scarcely any of the members know whether this Lodge exists or not , for it is many years since any one of them made their appearance among them . Ho could not agree with the statement of Bro . Lacey , though ,

as a mere matter of courtesy , the fact should have been made known to the Mother Lodge , that this Lodgo had thought it beneficial to its interests to change its name , for in reality nothing else had been altered . At the first meeting under the new arrangement , he had desired tho Secretary to acquaint the Mother Lodge that this Lodge had transferred , or blonded , or amalgamated , whatever term may

seem best , its affairs with the brethren of the Tredegar Lodge . For some reason or other it was not done , an omission which certainly required to be reotified . Nothing further need bo done , and to ask a Mother Lodgo , as has been suggested , to withdraw its sanction , seomed to him ridiculous and absurd . Bro . Lacey is altogether wrong in snpposing that a law exists bearing the interpretation Bro .

Terry puts upon it , but may be there is such a law , and he would make it more or less his business to exert his influence to carry out what he stated at the last meeting , tho report of whichappeared in THE FREEMASON ' S CnitONiciE . That report was literally correct in every particular , and he would stand by it . There is also a letter from a brother , who signs a nom de plume , who entirely misapprehends the

circumstances of the case . The facts aro simply these : —The Lodge voted so much money to tho E . B . I ., and therefore was entitled to so many Toto 3 . Application is made for the votes , and a refusal is given , on the ground that , by changing the name , the Lodge had ceasod to exist . This to him was a novelty , considering that the body consists of the same members who had voted the money , and who met in the

same room , at the same hour , and had in use the same paraphernalia . The Lodge did not , and does not , ceaae to exist . He would remind the younger brethren that be spoke with no ill feeling , but upon principle . He had ever endeavoured to do his duty in promoting the interests of the Institutions , and had been instrumental in procuring for them many hundred * of pounds . He had been Steward many

times , and would be so again but that the younger brethren were equally eager to serve in that capacity . He did his best to second their efforts in every shape and way . But if the Committee of the E . B . Institution persist to act so remarkably sharp , and in a manner that can never benefit , but is bound to injure the Instituition , he for his part would adopt a different course . The

cost of a proxy is the paper and the writing of the address , the refusal to send it may render it much more expensive . This is not the first time the authorities of the Institution have acted in a similar spirit . The United Mariners Lodge of Instruction and the Dorio used to meet in the same house . The former possessed a number of votes . As separate Lodges neither succeeded j it was ,

therefore , determined to amalgamate them , and in order that there shonld be no chance of losing tho proxies , both names were retained , and the Lodge was , and is known , as the United Mariners and Dorio Lodge of Instruction , thus giving prominence * to the firsc-named . The votes were nevertheless refused . Shortly after , about twelve months or two years , a new Lodge was established somewhere near

the Post-office , under the sanction of the United Mariners , the members of which had probably forgotten that the sanction had never been withdrawn from the already existing Lodge ; and although they ( the new Lodge ) had never subscribed a single sixpence , the votes were nevertheless sent to them . He would conclude by reiterating the caution he gave last week—namely , that tho brethren should be chary

to subscribe to that Institution until a more liberal policy is adopted ( General approbation . ) After a few words from Bro . Berry , Bro . George Hollington wished to explain that until that evening he was . not aware that directions had been given to the Secretary to write to the Mother Lodge ; he could not account for it , he had been unable to be present at the first meeting , and Bro . Huggett had kindly taken

his place , and upon the rough minutes there appeared nothing approaching to what Bro . Barnes bad just stated . Perhaps it had been uttered during a temporary absence of the Sec . pro tern . Eventually it was agreed to convey the best thanks of the Lodge to the Mother Lodge in writing , and a copy of that and also a copy of the resolution of the preliminary meeting be forwarded to the Secretaries of the Institutions .

A vote of thanks was unanimously passed to Bro . George Holling . ton , for his conduct in the chair , and Bro . Cambridge was elected W . M . for the ensuing week . Tho following letter , which has been widely circulated in the district , was handed round : — Exmonth-street , Commercial-road , E . May 1877 .

DEAR SIR AND BROTHER—You , and the brethren of your Lodge , are respectfully invited to attend a meeting of Subscribers to tho Masonic Institutions at the Eoyal Hotel , Mile End-road E ., on Monday evening , 14 th May 1877 , at 8 . 30 p . m ., to take into consideration tho advisability of devising means by which some

unity of action may be brought about to concentrate the votes of the brethren , so that a more equitable return may be the result , and the candidates for admission to the different Institutions receive that aid and support which the urgency of their cases may require . Candidates are often at a disadvantage in consequence of the absence of some proper mode of action to support their candidature .

, Believe me , yours faithfully , CHAS . LACEY W . M . 1625 , P . M . 174 , & c . Tho Lodge will be opened at 7 . 30 on Monday next .

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Grand Lodge Of Scotland.

Robert Burns , Christchurcb , Canterbury , New Zealand . Eureka , Christianstadt , St . Croix , Danish West India Isles . Eosslvn St . Clair , Bosslin . Prince ' s , Glasgow . Provincial Grand Masters were then appointed for three provinces ' as follows : —Provincial Grand Master for Now Zealand , North

Island , Bro . tho Honourable Frederick Whittaker , Provincial Grand Master for South Australia , Bvo . Connor , and Provincial Grand Master for Lanarkshire , Middle Ward , vaoant by the lamented death of Bro . Merry , Bro . Forrest , Provost of Hamilton , Bro . K . D . Walker Past Grand Master , was appointed representative to Grand Lodge of West Virginia . Grand Lodge next approved a minute of Grand

Committee , confirming ; the appointment of Bro . D . Kinnear as Grand Cashier , at an annual salary of £ 200 , and left with Grand Committee to consider a report as to the duties of Grand Secretary and Cashier . An address whioh had been sent to the Emperor of Germany on the occasion of his eightieth birthday , and the translation of a communication in reply , were laid on the table . Tho actin ?

Grand Master then introduced to tho brethren Lord Invorario , remarking on the gratification with which they hailed members of tbe noble families of Scotland promoting the interests of the Craft . ^ His lordship presented a petition from the Lodge of Kincardineshire praying to be disjoined from the Provincial Grand Lodge of Forfarshire , and erected into a province .

It was countersigned by Lord Eamsay , Provincial Grand Master of Forfarshire , and Lord Inverarie explained that there were so many Lodges in Forfarshire that those in the adjacent county desired to form a province b y themselves . They had five Lodges at present , and he hoped two others would soon be revived . They might have

their difficulties , but be * trusted these would not be more numerous than those of the Glasgow province . The petition was unanimously sustained , and Kincardineshire was erected into a province , of which it was stated Lord Inverarie will be Provincial Grand Master . Some other business having been transacted , Grand Lodge was closed .

Tredegar Lodge Of Instruction, No. 1625.

TREDEGAR LODGE OF INSTRUCTION , No . 1625 .

THIS Lodsre met as usual on Monday , the 7 th inst ., at the Eoyal Hotel , Mile-end . road . Bros . Geo . Hollington W . M ., Cambridge S . W ., Berry J . W ., E . Gottheil P . M . Preceptor , T . J . Barnes P . M . Treasurer , Rawley jun . S . D ., Clark J . D ., Humm I . G . There were also present Bros . Charles Lacey P . M ., Huggefc , who acted as Secretary pro tern , Wharman , Anderson , Frankan . Myer , Hallett , Andrews

, Giles , I . Posener , A . Posener , Hubbard , Campbell , & c . The ceremony of initiation was rehearsed , Bro . A . Posener being candidate . The first and second sections of the lecture were worked by Bro . Gottheil , assisted by the brethren .

Bro . Hollington then rose and said : Most of you will remember that when Eastern Star and Tredegar Lodges amalgamated , it was arranged that the fact should be communicated to Bro . Terry , in order that the proxies belonging to the former should for the future be sent in the name of the latter . Accordingly , I wrote as follows : —

DEAK BRO . TERRY , — I am directed by the brethren of the Eastern Star Lodge of Instruction , now amalgamated and working under the name of the Tredegar Lodge of Instruction , to request you to kindly forward the Lodge votes at your earliest convenience .

Trusting you are well , Believe me , yours fraternally , GEO . HOUINGTON , Hon . Sec . To this the following reply was sent : —

Office , No . 4 Freemasons' Hall , London , W . C ., 1 st May 1877 . DEAR BRO . HOLMNGTOIV , —I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your letter , asking for the votes of the Eastern Star Lodge of Instruction to be forwarded . Before I can do so , it will be necessary for you to send me acopy of the resolution passed by the Eastern Star Lodge , No . 95 , withdrawing its sanction from the Lodge of Instruction meeting any longer under its warrantand giving its consent to the

, transference of the Lodge of Instruction to the Tredegar Lodge . Unless this be done , according to the laws of this Institution the Eastern Star Lodge of Instruction will be considered as having ceased to exist , and that its votes and all its privileges have died out . Directly yon are able to reply to this , I shall be only too happy to send the proxies .

J . TERRY , See . Bro . Hollington concluded by saying , You . have now the correspondence before you , and I now leave the matter for you to discuss . Bro . Charles Lacey , the W . M . of the Tredegar Lodge , was of opinion that Bro . Terry demanded only that which was fair and in accordance

with the laws which govern the Institution ; and thought it was necessary to obtain the sanction of the Mother Lodge if it be desired to retain the privileges appertaining to the Lodge of Instruction ; ho would suggest that the sanction of the Mother Lodge should be obtained to enable the interests and privileges to be transferred from

° ne Lodge to the other ; and , together with a copy of the resolution Passed at the meeting at which the amalgamation took place , bo forwarded to the Secretaries of the Institutions . ( Hear , hear . ) Bro . T . J . Barnes thought a Mother Lodge had no power to interfere except in a case where the proceedings are not conducted in

conformity with the Constitutions or committal of some other illegal act . The Mother Lodge then had the power , nay , it behoves it , to withdraw the sanction from a Lodge of Instruction ; for upon it rests the responsibility . But it possesses no other power in any shape or way . But let me ask , has the Mother Lodge concerned itself about

Tredegar Lodge Of Instruction, No. 1625.

this Lodge , or ia it cognisant that it exists at all . Has any one of its members ever visited this Lodge ? Very rarely indeed . This Lodge was originated by Bro . Gottheil many years ago , under the name of tho " Faith . " The Lodge of Faith , No . 141 , gave sanction to establish an Instruction Lodge , none of its members being aware that such a Lodge already existed . When that fact came

to light , application was made to tho Eastern Star Lodge , which very kindly acceded to the request . Now that is some some years ago , and he ( Bro . Barnes ) , was of opinion that scarcely any of the members know whether this Lodge exists or not , for it is many years since any one of them made their appearance among them . Ho could not agree with the statement of Bro . Lacey , though ,

as a mere matter of courtesy , the fact should have been made known to the Mother Lodge , that this Lodgo had thought it beneficial to its interests to change its name , for in reality nothing else had been altered . At the first meeting under the new arrangement , he had desired tho Secretary to acquaint the Mother Lodge that this Lodge had transferred , or blonded , or amalgamated , whatever term may

seem best , its affairs with the brethren of the Tredegar Lodge . For some reason or other it was not done , an omission which certainly required to be reotified . Nothing further need bo done , and to ask a Mother Lodgo , as has been suggested , to withdraw its sanction , seomed to him ridiculous and absurd . Bro . Lacey is altogether wrong in snpposing that a law exists bearing the interpretation Bro .

Terry puts upon it , but may be there is such a law , and he would make it more or less his business to exert his influence to carry out what he stated at the last meeting , tho report of whichappeared in THE FREEMASON ' S CnitONiciE . That report was literally correct in every particular , and he would stand by it . There is also a letter from a brother , who signs a nom de plume , who entirely misapprehends the

circumstances of the case . The facts aro simply these : —The Lodge voted so much money to tho E . B . I ., and therefore was entitled to so many Toto 3 . Application is made for the votes , and a refusal is given , on the ground that , by changing the name , the Lodge had ceasod to exist . This to him was a novelty , considering that the body consists of the same members who had voted the money , and who met in the

same room , at the same hour , and had in use the same paraphernalia . The Lodge did not , and does not , ceaae to exist . He would remind the younger brethren that be spoke with no ill feeling , but upon principle . He had ever endeavoured to do his duty in promoting the interests of the Institutions , and had been instrumental in procuring for them many hundred * of pounds . He had been Steward many

times , and would be so again but that the younger brethren were equally eager to serve in that capacity . He did his best to second their efforts in every shape and way . But if the Committee of the E . B . Institution persist to act so remarkably sharp , and in a manner that can never benefit , but is bound to injure the Instituition , he for his part would adopt a different course . The

cost of a proxy is the paper and the writing of the address , the refusal to send it may render it much more expensive . This is not the first time the authorities of the Institution have acted in a similar spirit . The United Mariners Lodge of Instruction and the Dorio used to meet in the same house . The former possessed a number of votes . As separate Lodges neither succeeded j it was ,

therefore , determined to amalgamate them , and in order that there shonld be no chance of losing tho proxies , both names were retained , and the Lodge was , and is known , as the United Mariners and Dorio Lodge of Instruction , thus giving prominence * to the firsc-named . The votes were nevertheless refused . Shortly after , about twelve months or two years , a new Lodge was established somewhere near

the Post-office , under the sanction of the United Mariners , the members of which had probably forgotten that the sanction had never been withdrawn from the already existing Lodge ; and although they ( the new Lodge ) had never subscribed a single sixpence , the votes were nevertheless sent to them . He would conclude by reiterating the caution he gave last week—namely , that tho brethren should be chary

to subscribe to that Institution until a more liberal policy is adopted ( General approbation . ) After a few words from Bro . Berry , Bro . George Hollington wished to explain that until that evening he was . not aware that directions had been given to the Secretary to write to the Mother Lodge ; he could not account for it , he had been unable to be present at the first meeting , and Bro . Huggett had kindly taken

his place , and upon the rough minutes there appeared nothing approaching to what Bro . Barnes bad just stated . Perhaps it had been uttered during a temporary absence of the Sec . pro tern . Eventually it was agreed to convey the best thanks of the Lodge to the Mother Lodge in writing , and a copy of that and also a copy of the resolution of the preliminary meeting be forwarded to the Secretaries of the Institutions .

A vote of thanks was unanimously passed to Bro . George Holling . ton , for his conduct in the chair , and Bro . Cambridge was elected W . M . for the ensuing week . Tho following letter , which has been widely circulated in the district , was handed round : — Exmonth-street , Commercial-road , E . May 1877 .

DEAR SIR AND BROTHER—You , and the brethren of your Lodge , are respectfully invited to attend a meeting of Subscribers to tho Masonic Institutions at the Eoyal Hotel , Mile End-road E ., on Monday evening , 14 th May 1877 , at 8 . 30 p . m ., to take into consideration tho advisability of devising means by which some

unity of action may be brought about to concentrate the votes of the brethren , so that a more equitable return may be the result , and the candidates for admission to the different Institutions receive that aid and support which the urgency of their cases may require . Candidates are often at a disadvantage in consequence of the absence of some proper mode of action to support their candidature .

, Believe me , yours faithfully , CHAS . LACEY W . M . 1625 , P . M . 174 , & c . Tho Lodge will be opened at 7 . 30 on Monday next .

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