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this ought not to bo—not , bo it added , because I donbt the loyalty and good sense of the London voters , but because , in an election to this office , the Provincials are quite as much interested as the Londoners , and ought not to be put to trouble and expense in the exorcise of their undoubted privilege . This then is the head and front of my offence , which has excited
tho wrath ancl indignation of "A Life Governor of all three Charities , that I , with others , havo endorsed an admittedly reasonable suggestion of Bro . Constable ' s . Ah ! well . Pan-is componere 'magna solebam . I always like to rnb up my Latin , when I think of yonr contemporary , especially if I can express myself as well in plain honest English . A litttle Latin or a little French looks fine , and
gives the world the idea that I must be a scholarly writer . Well . I was going to say that every one who has advocated a reform has had a good deal of abuse and indignation levelled at them , so that the case of myself and thoso who have expressed the same opinion is not singular . But I must not trespass further ou your space . So I end as I began , by asking your sympathy with a deeply afflicted Craftsman , who subscribes himself—iu sorrow , nofc iu anger—Your Humble Seiwant aud Brother , FAIR PLAV .
North Wales.
NORTH WALES .
To the Editor of the FREEMASON ' S CHRONICLE . DEAR Sin AND BROTHER , —The report of the mooting of Lodge 1336 , on your page 317 , says , " We havo yet to learn that the Deputy P . G . Master of this Province ( North Wales and Shropshire ) has visited the Lodges under his care once since his appointment . "
Certain expressions whioh precede this sentence— indifference , incompetency , to wit—may indicate an animus which is not charitable , even if the writer ' s supposition were well founded . However , during the few months that tho D . P . G . M . has held the appointment , he has , to my knowledge , visited , with lively interest ,
the Modoc , the St . Eletk , tho St . Tudno , tho St . Davids , the Segonhum , the Anglesea , and other Lodges , besides discharging numerous Masonio duties . I was sorry to see an aspersion , even implied , against ono who , in Masonry aud out of ifc , is so esteemed and respected , nofc less in the Principality than in the Kingdom , as Bro . W . Bulkeley Hughes .
I remain , Sir , as ever , Above you all , THE WREKIN . 20 fch May 1878 .
A "Note" From A "Pro."
A "NOTE" FROM A "PRO . "
To the Editor of THE FREEMASON ' S CHRONICLE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I am glad you have called attention to a practice with some Lodges of calling in the services of non-Masonic artists at their banquets . Ifc is objectionable , nofc only for the reason
you gave last week , but also because if the services of artists are held to be imperatively necessary there are numbers of artistic brethren who would be only too glad of the opportunity of contributing to the evening ' s entertainment . Or , if the services of professional brethren are not to be had , and the alternative lies between no music at all or
the music contributed by non-Masonic artists , then let tho Lodge dispense ou thoso occasions with the Masonic form of toast , following in this respect the plan adopted at the Festivals of tho Benevolent Institntion and tho Girls' School , when the toasts aro given as at
ordinary dinners . However , as there is no dearth of brethren who belong to the musical profession , I , for one , see no just cause or impediment why we may not have , on one aud the same occasion , the services of Masonic minstrels and the geniality and fervour of our Masonio toasts .
I am , fraternally yours , " TAMBOURINE . " 14 th May 1878 .
Lodge Victoria In Burmah.
LODGE VICTORIA IN BURMAH .
'Jo the Editor of the FREEMASON s CHRONICLE . DEAR SIR , —The election of Bro . the Rev . J . E . Marks to tho chair of Lodge Victoria in Burmah , No . 832 , has been declared void by tho Grand Lodge . Well , Brother Marks was installed as W . M ., without waiting for the orders of tho District Grand Master , and subsequently elected and installed as Third Principal in tho " Royal Burmah "
Chapter attached to Lodgo " Victoria in Burmah , Iso . 832 , though all the members of the Chapter , from the District Grand Superintendent downwards , were aware that an appeal against Bro . Marks' election and installation was then before the Most Worshipfnl the Grand Master , and this because they wero so self-coufidcnt that it did not occur to them thab ib was possible that the Grand Lodge might think
differently from the D . G . M . or the W . M . of Lodge No . 832 . Fortunately , I am not concerned in the result of the disputes in " Victoria in Burmah , " but as a Past Master , and as a Principal of aChapter J wish to know how I am to act if Bro . Marks presents himself ab rr , I , "'! go as a Past Master , or in the Chapter to which I belong as a Past ihird
Principal ? Can I admit Bro . Marks in a Board of Installing Muster * , or in a Board of Insiailing Principals ? I find the District Grand Secretary indiscriminately refers to Bro . Marks as Worshipful , and sometimes as brother only ; but this inexact language may bo attributed to that delicacy which one Brother entertains for another . Haa Brother Marks a right to sit in District Grand L . odgo ag a
Lodge Victoria In Burmah.
Past Master , and in the District Grand Chapter as Past Third Principal ? When Brethren and Lodges will not exercise duo caution , and will disobey or assist in disobeying lawful authority , with thoir eyes open , one can hardly sympathise with them . Yet the action of tho Grand Lodgo has put Bro . Marks and his following iu a hole .
How is all this difficulty to bo cured aud got over ? Must Bro Marks serve as a Warden of a Lodge for a year , and then be elected and installed as a Master of a Lodge tie nouo , as if ho had never been installed before ? and , in tho same manner , also as Third Principal of a Chapter ?
I have advised submission , penitence , and a prayer for a special dispensation from tho Mosfc AVorshipful tho Grand Master ; a general sibsolntion , and a Jiafc declaring that the crooked things , events and occurrences bo made straight , bnt this advice is of too tamo a nature to be heeded ; the advocates of disobedience , disorder , and rebellion have the ear of tho wise ones of "Victoria in Burmah . "
Yours fraternally , Rangoon , 13 th April 1878 . A BURMAH MASON . [ We cannot do better than refer onr correspondent to
the article which appeared iu these columns in No . 171 , of the 6 th April . In the last paragraph , ancl speaking of the consequences to onr Rev . Bro . Marks of his election as W . M . of Victoria in Burmah bavins' been declared
invalid , we remarked that , though he could not bo deprived of his status as a Past Master , he would not , in our opinion , be allowed to exercise any of his rights and privileges as such . In order to qualify himself to exercise tho latter , we laid it down that he must serve the office of Warden
for a full year , such being a conditio sine qua non of his eligibility to the chair of his Lodge . He must then serve
as W . Master for the prescribed term , and then only will he be entitled to the rights and privileges of a Past Master . This governs the whole of the case . Ifc follows that Bro . Marks is not entitled to be received as a Past Master in
any Lodge-, or as a Past Third Principal in any Chapter he may visit ; thafc he cannot be admitted to a Board of Installing Masters or to a Board of Installing Principals ; nor has he the shadow of a claim to sit in District Grand Lodge as a Past Master , or in the District ; Grand Chapter
as a Past Third Principal . In fact , Bro . Marks is purely and simply a Master Mason who has been exalted to tho R . A . degree , with this difference , however , from other M . Masons who have been exalted , thafc by reason of circumstances wbich , so far as they relate to Craft Masonry ,
have been declared irregular by the supremo authority , Grand Lodge , he has acquired a knowledge of certain mysteries not known to Master Masons , of whieh , in tho nature of things , it is impossible he can be deprived . He
is m the same predicament as a brother who has been irregularly initiated , passed , or raised , and to acquit himself of the taint of irregularity ho must go through the ordeal again .
As regards " A BCKM . VH MASON ' " proposal for settling matters , we shonld in ordinary cases have endorsed his views , and have suggested that whatever might legally be done or dispensed with , should bo done or dispensed with in order to set matters straight . This , however , is
not an ordinary case , and we consider it would be in the highest degree unwise and inexpedient to grant to Bro . Marks , Lodge Victoria in Burmah , or Chapter Victoria in Burmah , any dispensation of any degree or kind
whatsoever which would in any w ; -. y release any of them from any of the pains or penalties to which they havo made themselves liable . Speaking of the Lodge only , wo do nofc hesitate to say that ifc has been guilty of the grossest contumacy in not having afc once and unhesitatingly obeyed
the orders of the Grand Master , and restored the unjustly excluded brethren to their full Masonic rights and privileges ; and it is only from what we have gathered from the various statements we have received , that we fall short of susrsrest-mGr that the Lodjro should be erased from tho List
of Lodges in tho jurisdiction of . Grand Lodge , England . So signal an instance of disobedience and contempt for the authority of the Grand Master has not occurred for many years . Yet we believe the Lodge has done loyal service in the past , and there are thoso among its members who aro
capable of rendering similar service in the future . If , then , any attempt is made still further to resist the decree of Grand Lodge , we should recommend that the conduct of those members , who advocate snch a coarse , be brought
under tbn aofcice of Grand Lodge in the usual manner , with a view to their expulsion from the Oiviffc , and this done , that the Lodge be reconstituted , under its present warrant , so that those who are nofc aiders and abettors in these disloyal contrivances may nofc be punished for the sins of those who are . —ED . !\ C ]
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Correspondence.
this ought not to bo—not , bo it added , because I donbt the loyalty and good sense of the London voters , but because , in an election to this office , the Provincials are quite as much interested as the Londoners , and ought not to be put to trouble and expense in the exorcise of their undoubted privilege . This then is the head and front of my offence , which has excited
tho wrath ancl indignation of "A Life Governor of all three Charities , that I , with others , havo endorsed an admittedly reasonable suggestion of Bro . Constable ' s . Ah ! well . Pan-is componere 'magna solebam . I always like to rnb up my Latin , when I think of yonr contemporary , especially if I can express myself as well in plain honest English . A litttle Latin or a little French looks fine , and
gives the world the idea that I must be a scholarly writer . Well . I was going to say that every one who has advocated a reform has had a good deal of abuse and indignation levelled at them , so that the case of myself and thoso who have expressed the same opinion is not singular . But I must not trespass further ou your space . So I end as I began , by asking your sympathy with a deeply afflicted Craftsman , who subscribes himself—iu sorrow , nofc iu anger—Your Humble Seiwant aud Brother , FAIR PLAV .
North Wales.
NORTH WALES .
To the Editor of the FREEMASON ' S CHRONICLE . DEAR Sin AND BROTHER , —The report of the mooting of Lodge 1336 , on your page 317 , says , " We havo yet to learn that the Deputy P . G . Master of this Province ( North Wales and Shropshire ) has visited the Lodges under his care once since his appointment . "
Certain expressions whioh precede this sentence— indifference , incompetency , to wit—may indicate an animus which is not charitable , even if the writer ' s supposition were well founded . However , during the few months that tho D . P . G . M . has held the appointment , he has , to my knowledge , visited , with lively interest ,
the Modoc , the St . Eletk , tho St . Tudno , tho St . Davids , the Segonhum , the Anglesea , and other Lodges , besides discharging numerous Masonio duties . I was sorry to see an aspersion , even implied , against ono who , in Masonry aud out of ifc , is so esteemed and respected , nofc less in the Principality than in the Kingdom , as Bro . W . Bulkeley Hughes .
I remain , Sir , as ever , Above you all , THE WREKIN . 20 fch May 1878 .
A "Note" From A "Pro."
A "NOTE" FROM A "PRO . "
To the Editor of THE FREEMASON ' S CHRONICLE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I am glad you have called attention to a practice with some Lodges of calling in the services of non-Masonic artists at their banquets . Ifc is objectionable , nofc only for the reason
you gave last week , but also because if the services of artists are held to be imperatively necessary there are numbers of artistic brethren who would be only too glad of the opportunity of contributing to the evening ' s entertainment . Or , if the services of professional brethren are not to be had , and the alternative lies between no music at all or
the music contributed by non-Masonic artists , then let tho Lodge dispense ou thoso occasions with the Masonic form of toast , following in this respect the plan adopted at the Festivals of tho Benevolent Institntion and tho Girls' School , when the toasts aro given as at
ordinary dinners . However , as there is no dearth of brethren who belong to the musical profession , I , for one , see no just cause or impediment why we may not have , on one aud the same occasion , the services of Masonic minstrels and the geniality and fervour of our Masonio toasts .
I am , fraternally yours , " TAMBOURINE . " 14 th May 1878 .
Lodge Victoria In Burmah.
LODGE VICTORIA IN BURMAH .
'Jo the Editor of the FREEMASON s CHRONICLE . DEAR SIR , —The election of Bro . the Rev . J . E . Marks to tho chair of Lodge Victoria in Burmah , No . 832 , has been declared void by tho Grand Lodge . Well , Brother Marks was installed as W . M ., without waiting for the orders of tho District Grand Master , and subsequently elected and installed as Third Principal in tho " Royal Burmah "
Chapter attached to Lodgo " Victoria in Burmah , Iso . 832 , though all the members of the Chapter , from the District Grand Superintendent downwards , were aware that an appeal against Bro . Marks' election and installation was then before the Most Worshipfnl the Grand Master , and this because they wero so self-coufidcnt that it did not occur to them thab ib was possible that the Grand Lodge might think
differently from the D . G . M . or the W . M . of Lodge No . 832 . Fortunately , I am not concerned in the result of the disputes in " Victoria in Burmah , " but as a Past Master , and as a Principal of aChapter J wish to know how I am to act if Bro . Marks presents himself ab rr , I , "'! go as a Past Master , or in the Chapter to which I belong as a Past ihird
Principal ? Can I admit Bro . Marks in a Board of Installing Muster * , or in a Board of Insiailing Principals ? I find the District Grand Secretary indiscriminately refers to Bro . Marks as Worshipful , and sometimes as brother only ; but this inexact language may bo attributed to that delicacy which one Brother entertains for another . Haa Brother Marks a right to sit in District Grand L . odgo ag a
Lodge Victoria In Burmah.
Past Master , and in the District Grand Chapter as Past Third Principal ? When Brethren and Lodges will not exercise duo caution , and will disobey or assist in disobeying lawful authority , with thoir eyes open , one can hardly sympathise with them . Yet the action of tho Grand Lodgo has put Bro . Marks and his following iu a hole .
How is all this difficulty to bo cured aud got over ? Must Bro Marks serve as a Warden of a Lodge for a year , and then be elected and installed as a Master of a Lodge tie nouo , as if ho had never been installed before ? and , in tho same manner , also as Third Principal of a Chapter ?
I have advised submission , penitence , and a prayer for a special dispensation from tho Mosfc AVorshipful tho Grand Master ; a general sibsolntion , and a Jiafc declaring that the crooked things , events and occurrences bo made straight , bnt this advice is of too tamo a nature to be heeded ; the advocates of disobedience , disorder , and rebellion have the ear of tho wise ones of "Victoria in Burmah . "
Yours fraternally , Rangoon , 13 th April 1878 . A BURMAH MASON . [ We cannot do better than refer onr correspondent to
the article which appeared iu these columns in No . 171 , of the 6 th April . In the last paragraph , ancl speaking of the consequences to onr Rev . Bro . Marks of his election as W . M . of Victoria in Burmah bavins' been declared
invalid , we remarked that , though he could not bo deprived of his status as a Past Master , he would not , in our opinion , be allowed to exercise any of his rights and privileges as such . In order to qualify himself to exercise tho latter , we laid it down that he must serve the office of Warden
for a full year , such being a conditio sine qua non of his eligibility to the chair of his Lodge . He must then serve
as W . Master for the prescribed term , and then only will he be entitled to the rights and privileges of a Past Master . This governs the whole of the case . Ifc follows that Bro . Marks is not entitled to be received as a Past Master in
any Lodge-, or as a Past Third Principal in any Chapter he may visit ; thafc he cannot be admitted to a Board of Installing Masters or to a Board of Installing Principals ; nor has he the shadow of a claim to sit in District Grand Lodge as a Past Master , or in the District ; Grand Chapter
as a Past Third Principal . In fact , Bro . Marks is purely and simply a Master Mason who has been exalted to tho R . A . degree , with this difference , however , from other M . Masons who have been exalted , thafc by reason of circumstances wbich , so far as they relate to Craft Masonry ,
have been declared irregular by the supremo authority , Grand Lodge , he has acquired a knowledge of certain mysteries not known to Master Masons , of whieh , in tho nature of things , it is impossible he can be deprived . He
is m the same predicament as a brother who has been irregularly initiated , passed , or raised , and to acquit himself of the taint of irregularity ho must go through the ordeal again .
As regards " A BCKM . VH MASON ' " proposal for settling matters , we shonld in ordinary cases have endorsed his views , and have suggested that whatever might legally be done or dispensed with , should bo done or dispensed with in order to set matters straight . This , however , is
not an ordinary case , and we consider it would be in the highest degree unwise and inexpedient to grant to Bro . Marks , Lodge Victoria in Burmah , or Chapter Victoria in Burmah , any dispensation of any degree or kind
whatsoever which would in any w ; -. y release any of them from any of the pains or penalties to which they havo made themselves liable . Speaking of the Lodge only , wo do nofc hesitate to say that ifc has been guilty of the grossest contumacy in not having afc once and unhesitatingly obeyed
the orders of the Grand Master , and restored the unjustly excluded brethren to their full Masonic rights and privileges ; and it is only from what we have gathered from the various statements we have received , that we fall short of susrsrest-mGr that the Lodjro should be erased from tho List
of Lodges in tho jurisdiction of . Grand Lodge , England . So signal an instance of disobedience and contempt for the authority of the Grand Master has not occurred for many years . Yet we believe the Lodge has done loyal service in the past , and there are thoso among its members who aro
capable of rendering similar service in the future . If , then , any attempt is made still further to resist the decree of Grand Lodge , we should recommend that the conduct of those members , who advocate snch a coarse , be brought
under tbn aofcice of Grand Lodge in the usual manner , with a view to their expulsion from the Oiviffc , and this done , that the Lodge be reconstituted , under its present warrant , so that those who are nofc aiders and abettors in these disloyal contrivances may nofc be punished for the sins of those who are . —ED . !\ C ]