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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

Wt do not hold ourselves responsiblt for tht opinion * of our Correspondents . All Letters must bear the name and address of tht Writer not necessarily for publication , but as a guarantee of good faith . Wt cannot undertakt to return rejected communications .

— : u : — PHIL ADELPHI AN CLAIMS . To the Editor of the FREEMASON ' S CUKONICLE . DEAR S IB AND BROTHER , —I should not have troubled you a » ain , but that I rashly promised in one of my letters to you to point to what may be the explanation of the Philadelphian statns as the mother city of American Freemasonry .

We are still in a fop-, and shall be unless Liber A . turns np , as to what was the position of Freemasonry in Philadelphia before 1731 . But the fact of the meeting in 1731 , if we look at its actuality rightly , must lead to the conclusion that there was an anterior period of Masonio life and existence there . Of course all is now hazy ,

very hazy and in great uncertainty , and I can only speak hesitatingly and problematically . If Masonry was working in Philadelphia early in the eighteenth century , it oame from somewhere . Coxe's action was peculiar certainly , for despite hia Patent of 1730

he did nothing . The Philadelp hian claims for primacy are independent of Coxe altogether . Whence then did these " Privileges " emanate of which Franklin speaks in 1734 ? Bro . Gould treats all the annals of Freemasonry in Philadelphia

before 1731 as pre-historic . Perhaps he is right , but as there is no effeot without a cause , what was the original nature and motive power of Philadelphian Freemasonry ? It would never surprise me if subsequent researches led to the conclusion that the early settlers brought probably a Scottish form

of Freemasonry , and that with the peculiar laxity of those days , when Warrants were unheeded , opened a Lodge , claimed immemorial rights , and eventually chose a Grand Master , whatever meaning

they actually gave to the term in those days . They say often in such like matters one suggestion is as good as another , and therefore I offer it for what it is worth , and having done so , I have had my say , and simply subscribe myself ,

Dear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternally , A STUDENT OI BRO . GOULD ' S HISTORY .

We have been requested to insert the following corncommunication . THE GREAT QUESTION SETTLED .

To the Editor of the MASONIC HOME JOURNAL . BEAR SIR , —The infinite ease with which Editor McCalla , of the Philadelphia Keystone , kicks over all of his laboured statements of

thirteen years' iteration , tbat Philadelphia had the first regular Masonic Lodge in America , by reason of the same having been chartered by Daniel Coxe in 1731 , lie has made evident in his paper of the 11 th inst .

So far from beiug now bound in any manner by tho Henry Bell letter , or any of his own previous asseverations , on sight of the English historian Gould's sixth volume , he incontinently sheds the whole load of his arguments , by which he had deluded the Masons of Pennsylvania almost to swear } by him , as easily as a snake sheds his

wornout skin and swallows it , and at once adopts the English author ' s hint that the T u Tavern Lodge of Philadelphia was of origin similar to that of tbe four old Lodges which met at the Goose and Gridiron in 1717 , and there resolved , & c . Or , iu other words , that the Tun Tavern'Lddge was entirely regular , by virtue of its being

self-constitnted , as was the York ( England ) Lodge of all England , with the difference of which , however , he takes no notice , that the York brethren had the charter of York as their authority , while the Philadel phians had no charter at all , and , by reason of their

' immemorial" character , did not want oue , until in 1731 Benjamin Franklin , then their Grand Master , so made by immemorial authority , discovered that they did , and therefore applied to Henry Price for the same .

Hereafter Bro . McCalla cati tike rank as the great Masonic Hermanns Prestidigitator-in-chief . He has no more use for D-iniel Coxe or his friend Meyer ' s Henry Bell letter , whether real or forged , as he knows now that it was , and the more so as tho name of Henry Bell is not found as tho subject of any Liber B ' stock" account . Nor does

he want to find Liber A ( th ' ongh Bro . Gould would like to see it ) , fordoes not the all-knowing Meyer say there , is eo'hir . g in it but commercial accounts , and of course he knows . On tho contrary , McCalla has now all the authority ho ever car . desire for th > regularity of the Tnn Tavern Lodge . Indeed so much HO is this the fact

that were it really now proved in a court of jnstice that Coxe did charter that Lodge , and helped to make Franklin in it in February 1731 , as he said he would prove , and has , as it were , sworn in past time to stand ou both these positions with a , foot on each , as if they

Were the land and sea of tho angol of tho apocalypse , or the two promontories of tho harbour of Rhodes , he would " now reject both for the higher and prouder authority of suoh Lodge being instituted by two or three men ( their names and where they were first made quite unknown ) who first resolved to hold a Lodtro iu the Tun

Correspondence.

Tavern in Water-street , Philadelp hia— when never may bo known , as there is no date anterior to that of Liber B to establish anything . And Bro . Lano , of England , and all of his earnest tergiversation to establish tho identity of the English Lodge , No . 79 , with that which met at tho Hoop Tavern , Philadelphia , in chose early times , are in

liko manner kicked over by Bro . McCalla , as irrelevant and useless ' •I don ' t want these or any other form of evideuco whatever , " he exclaims . "Immemorial authority ! " that is tho ticket that counts ;

and why I was such an ass to let Gould first think of it , I just feel like wip ing the tloor with myself for ! Immemorial authority ! I thank thea for that word , 0 Jew ! It has cut tho Gordian knot , and lot uio out triumphantly .

Yours fraternally , J . FLETCHER BRENNAN . Cincinnati , Ohio , 13 th June 1887 .

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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

Wt do not hold ourselves responsiblt for tht opinion * of our Correspondents . All Letters must bear the name and address of tht Writer not necessarily for publication , but as a guarantee of good faith . Wt cannot undertakt to return rejected communications .

— : u : — PHIL ADELPHI AN CLAIMS . To the Editor of the FREEMASON ' S CUKONICLE . DEAR S IB AND BROTHER , —I should not have troubled you a » ain , but that I rashly promised in one of my letters to you to point to what may be the explanation of the Philadelphian statns as the mother city of American Freemasonry .

We are still in a fop-, and shall be unless Liber A . turns np , as to what was the position of Freemasonry in Philadelphia before 1731 . But the fact of the meeting in 1731 , if we look at its actuality rightly , must lead to the conclusion that there was an anterior period of Masonio life and existence there . Of course all is now hazy ,

very hazy and in great uncertainty , and I can only speak hesitatingly and problematically . If Masonry was working in Philadelphia early in the eighteenth century , it oame from somewhere . Coxe's action was peculiar certainly , for despite hia Patent of 1730

he did nothing . The Philadelp hian claims for primacy are independent of Coxe altogether . Whence then did these " Privileges " emanate of which Franklin speaks in 1734 ? Bro . Gould treats all the annals of Freemasonry in Philadelphia

before 1731 as pre-historic . Perhaps he is right , but as there is no effeot without a cause , what was the original nature and motive power of Philadelphian Freemasonry ? It would never surprise me if subsequent researches led to the conclusion that the early settlers brought probably a Scottish form

of Freemasonry , and that with the peculiar laxity of those days , when Warrants were unheeded , opened a Lodge , claimed immemorial rights , and eventually chose a Grand Master , whatever meaning

they actually gave to the term in those days . They say often in such like matters one suggestion is as good as another , and therefore I offer it for what it is worth , and having done so , I have had my say , and simply subscribe myself ,

Dear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternally , A STUDENT OI BRO . GOULD ' S HISTORY .

We have been requested to insert the following corncommunication . THE GREAT QUESTION SETTLED .

To the Editor of the MASONIC HOME JOURNAL . BEAR SIR , —The infinite ease with which Editor McCalla , of the Philadelphia Keystone , kicks over all of his laboured statements of

thirteen years' iteration , tbat Philadelphia had the first regular Masonic Lodge in America , by reason of the same having been chartered by Daniel Coxe in 1731 , lie has made evident in his paper of the 11 th inst .

So far from beiug now bound in any manner by tho Henry Bell letter , or any of his own previous asseverations , on sight of the English historian Gould's sixth volume , he incontinently sheds the whole load of his arguments , by which he had deluded the Masons of Pennsylvania almost to swear } by him , as easily as a snake sheds his

wornout skin and swallows it , and at once adopts the English author ' s hint that the T u Tavern Lodge of Philadelphia was of origin similar to that of tbe four old Lodges which met at the Goose and Gridiron in 1717 , and there resolved , & c . Or , iu other words , that the Tun Tavern'Lddge was entirely regular , by virtue of its being

self-constitnted , as was the York ( England ) Lodge of all England , with the difference of which , however , he takes no notice , that the York brethren had the charter of York as their authority , while the Philadel phians had no charter at all , and , by reason of their

' immemorial" character , did not want oue , until in 1731 Benjamin Franklin , then their Grand Master , so made by immemorial authority , discovered that they did , and therefore applied to Henry Price for the same .

Hereafter Bro . McCalla cati tike rank as the great Masonic Hermanns Prestidigitator-in-chief . He has no more use for D-iniel Coxe or his friend Meyer ' s Henry Bell letter , whether real or forged , as he knows now that it was , and the more so as tho name of Henry Bell is not found as tho subject of any Liber B ' stock" account . Nor does

he want to find Liber A ( th ' ongh Bro . Gould would like to see it ) , fordoes not the all-knowing Meyer say there , is eo'hir . g in it but commercial accounts , and of course he knows . On tho contrary , McCalla has now all the authority ho ever car . desire for th > regularity of the Tnn Tavern Lodge . Indeed so much HO is this the fact

that were it really now proved in a court of jnstice that Coxe did charter that Lodge , and helped to make Franklin in it in February 1731 , as he said he would prove , and has , as it were , sworn in past time to stand ou both these positions with a , foot on each , as if they

Were the land and sea of tho angol of tho apocalypse , or the two promontories of tho harbour of Rhodes , he would " now reject both for the higher and prouder authority of suoh Lodge being instituted by two or three men ( their names and where they were first made quite unknown ) who first resolved to hold a Lodtro iu the Tun

Correspondence.

Tavern in Water-street , Philadelp hia— when never may bo known , as there is no date anterior to that of Liber B to establish anything . And Bro . Lano , of England , and all of his earnest tergiversation to establish tho identity of the English Lodge , No . 79 , with that which met at tho Hoop Tavern , Philadelphia , in chose early times , are in

liko manner kicked over by Bro . McCalla , as irrelevant and useless ' •I don ' t want these or any other form of evideuco whatever , " he exclaims . "Immemorial authority ! " that is tho ticket that counts ;

and why I was such an ass to let Gould first think of it , I just feel like wip ing the tloor with myself for ! Immemorial authority ! I thank thea for that word , 0 Jew ! It has cut tho Gordian knot , and lot uio out triumphantly .

Yours fraternally , J . FLETCHER BRENNAN . Cincinnati , Ohio , 13 th June 1887 .

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INSTALLATION OF H . R . H . THE PftSNCE OF WALES , As the M . W . G . M . of England , AT THE ROYAL ALBERT HALL 28 th APRIL 1875 COPIES of this BEAUTIFUL ENGRAVING by Brother HARTY P . M ., consisting of Artist's Proofs , Proofs before Letters , and Lettered Proofs , India Prints , and Plain Prints may be had at Cost Price by applying to Bro . W . R . N ORRIS , 29 Southampton Buildings , W . C , London .

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BRO . Gc S . GRAHAM , The Popular Tenor and Buffo Vocalist , from St . James ' s Hall , Crystal Palace , & c . ( Provincial Grand Organist Middlesex ) 1 ' IS OPEN TO ACCEPT ENGAGEMENTS FOR ( taceris , fetettahmmtts $ gtasamc § kwq ; ue . ts . Bro . G . S . Graham ' s Party of Eminent Artists can be engaged for Masonic Banqnets , Consecrations and Installations , & c . For Opinions of the Pr « ss and Terms , address—G . S . GRAHAM , Hazeldean , Cornford Grove , Balham , Surrer .

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