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House Of Commons.

on the war ? Did it require mora gunpowder to kill an atheist than a devout believer ? As to the Chancellor of the Exchequer , Ins arguments were most extraordinary indeed : he had said , that paying the dividends in notes was no grievance , as it had been done before . But would any gentleman say that notes werJTnow what they were before , when exchangeable at will into specie ; or that the case was noiv the same as when the public creditor had his option of paper or gold ? An Honourable Member , continued Mr . Sheridan , proposes to cut ejFall superfluous expences . But if , upon enquiry , the authors of the present calamity be found

guilty , he ( Mr . S . ) would not then say tebat ought la be cut of j . Though not of a sanguinary disposition , he thought in such a case an example ought to be made . As he therefore deemed it necessary that an enquiry should be set on foot , he should move an amendment to be added to the Motion to the following effect : f That it be ari instruction to the said Committee to enquire into the causes which had produced the Order of Council on the 27 th instant , andgive their opinion on the same ; and consider also of the necessity of enquiring into the measures that ht to be taken inconsequence of the said Order . '

oug After some further debate of little importance , in which Messrs . Thornton , Dundas , Pitt , Grey , and several other Members took a part , the House divided on Mr . Sheridan ' s amendment : Noes 224—Ayes 88—Majority 156 . Wednesday , March 1 . Mr . W . Bird stated the great inconvenience that arose to manufaGturers not having the means of paying their workman on a Saturday , iu consequence of the scarcity of specie . He therefore moved , that notes of a small value be allowed to be given in payment by manufacturers aud merchants

, throughout the kingdom . Mr . Sheridan said , if apoor man earned 14 s . per week , where , heasked , could he procure change to give his employer out of a guinea note ? Mr . Pitt moved the order of the day for the second reading of the Bill to remove the restrictions which prevented the Bank of England from issuing notes under five pounds , and to establish the validity of those notes issued under that sum , subject to no penalty .

Mr . Grey observed that these notes , he understood , would be made payable to bearer ; he conceived that the Bill and the note were therefore at variance . The Bill prohibited the Bank from issuing specie , while its notes were made payable to bearer . Mr . Pitt said , that the smaller notes were expressed in the same terms as tbe others , and the suspension of payment attached to them in the same manner as to all others issued by the Bank . Mr . Fox remarked , that , in addition to the first breach of faith , there were

added every other circumstance that could weaken the credit of the country . The Order of the Council required that the Bank should issue no money ; while , in the interim , Parliament was about to give authority to the Bank to issue notes of a particulardescription , payable to bearer on demand . The House then went into a Committee on the Bill , and the blanks being filled up , the report was immediately brought up , read , agreed to , and engrossed . Mr . Fox , in conformity to notice , rose to make a Motion , for a Committee to inquire into the causes which produced the Order of Councildated the 26 th of

, February last , prohibiting the issue of specie in payment at the Bank . After a deal of preliminary matter , he adverted to the Committee , which had just been balloted for , in pursuance of the Resolution of the House yesterday . He was sorry to find that the object of the Committee was directed more to provide a remedy for the existing evil , than to the causes which produced that evil . The measures which were likely to engage the public attention for three weeks to come , would probably decide the fate of the British Empire . Gentlemen ought , thereforeto lose no time in adopting the most speedy and effectual means of

, ameliorating the Finances , and restoring Public Credit . He then moved to the effect mentioned at the commencement of his speech . General Walpole seconded the Motion , and animadverted with much severity on the conduct of a description of Gentlemen whom he styled Alarmists ! Mr . Pitt vindicated the conduct of the description of persons alluded to , and f-epresented them as the most vigilant and loyal of his Majesty ' s subjects . He Strenuously opposed the appointment of a Committee by nomination , and justified

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LONDON: Article 2
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WISDOM AND FOLLY: A VISION. Article 12
HISTORY OF THE GYPSIES. Article 19
CHARACTER OF THE POPE AND MODERN ROMANS. Article 22
SKETCH OF THE LIFE OF THE GREAT EARL OF MANSFIELD. Article 25
DEVELOPEMENT OF THE VIEWS OF THE FRENCH NATION. Article 29
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PRESENT STATE OF THE SPANISH THEATRE. Article 36
A WONDERFUL AND TRAGICAL RELATION OF , A VOYAGE FROM THE INDIES.* Article 38
ON APPARITIONS. Article 41
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FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 44
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 46
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House Of Commons.

on the war ? Did it require mora gunpowder to kill an atheist than a devout believer ? As to the Chancellor of the Exchequer , Ins arguments were most extraordinary indeed : he had said , that paying the dividends in notes was no grievance , as it had been done before . But would any gentleman say that notes werJTnow what they were before , when exchangeable at will into specie ; or that the case was noiv the same as when the public creditor had his option of paper or gold ? An Honourable Member , continued Mr . Sheridan , proposes to cut ejFall superfluous expences . But if , upon enquiry , the authors of the present calamity be found

guilty , he ( Mr . S . ) would not then say tebat ought la be cut of j . Though not of a sanguinary disposition , he thought in such a case an example ought to be made . As he therefore deemed it necessary that an enquiry should be set on foot , he should move an amendment to be added to the Motion to the following effect : f That it be ari instruction to the said Committee to enquire into the causes which had produced the Order of Council on the 27 th instant , andgive their opinion on the same ; and consider also of the necessity of enquiring into the measures that ht to be taken inconsequence of the said Order . '

oug After some further debate of little importance , in which Messrs . Thornton , Dundas , Pitt , Grey , and several other Members took a part , the House divided on Mr . Sheridan ' s amendment : Noes 224—Ayes 88—Majority 156 . Wednesday , March 1 . Mr . W . Bird stated the great inconvenience that arose to manufaGturers not having the means of paying their workman on a Saturday , iu consequence of the scarcity of specie . He therefore moved , that notes of a small value be allowed to be given in payment by manufacturers aud merchants

, throughout the kingdom . Mr . Sheridan said , if apoor man earned 14 s . per week , where , heasked , could he procure change to give his employer out of a guinea note ? Mr . Pitt moved the order of the day for the second reading of the Bill to remove the restrictions which prevented the Bank of England from issuing notes under five pounds , and to establish the validity of those notes issued under that sum , subject to no penalty .

Mr . Grey observed that these notes , he understood , would be made payable to bearer ; he conceived that the Bill and the note were therefore at variance . The Bill prohibited the Bank from issuing specie , while its notes were made payable to bearer . Mr . Pitt said , that the smaller notes were expressed in the same terms as tbe others , and the suspension of payment attached to them in the same manner as to all others issued by the Bank . Mr . Fox remarked , that , in addition to the first breach of faith , there were

added every other circumstance that could weaken the credit of the country . The Order of the Council required that the Bank should issue no money ; while , in the interim , Parliament was about to give authority to the Bank to issue notes of a particulardescription , payable to bearer on demand . The House then went into a Committee on the Bill , and the blanks being filled up , the report was immediately brought up , read , agreed to , and engrossed . Mr . Fox , in conformity to notice , rose to make a Motion , for a Committee to inquire into the causes which produced the Order of Councildated the 26 th of

, February last , prohibiting the issue of specie in payment at the Bank . After a deal of preliminary matter , he adverted to the Committee , which had just been balloted for , in pursuance of the Resolution of the House yesterday . He was sorry to find that the object of the Committee was directed more to provide a remedy for the existing evil , than to the causes which produced that evil . The measures which were likely to engage the public attention for three weeks to come , would probably decide the fate of the British Empire . Gentlemen ought , thereforeto lose no time in adopting the most speedy and effectual means of

, ameliorating the Finances , and restoring Public Credit . He then moved to the effect mentioned at the commencement of his speech . General Walpole seconded the Motion , and animadverted with much severity on the conduct of a description of Gentlemen whom he styled Alarmists ! Mr . Pitt vindicated the conduct of the description of persons alluded to , and f-epresented them as the most vigilant and loyal of his Majesty ' s subjects . He Strenuously opposed the appointment of a Committee by nomination , and justified

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