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Report Of The Proceedings Of The British Parllament.

: . Ute of the neighbouring kingdom . It was impossible for anv man to doubt tha paternal aiiecnon of his Majesty for thepeopleofihe kingdom of Ireland . During ins reign , t . iey had been freed from ever .- di = abiiitv under which tlu-v had laboured curing the reigns of his ancesiors . Thev liad obtained an absolute inciepeneence ot their Parliament . n that of this country , by the repeal of the Act otbljeo 1 . lhey had obtained entire emancipation from lhe ultimate jurisdiction of the British House of Peers in their judicialcapacity . Thev had also in icspect to religious restrictions received the alleviation from his

greatest Majesty s benecctncc . lliese were facts which sufficiently evinced his Majesty's paternal afiection for the people of Ireland . IU therefore thought , that after t . iat people had contended so strenuousl y for the freedom and independence of tneir Legislature , any interference on the part of the Legislature of this Countrv in the internal affairs of Ireland would be highly improper . There were , his Lordship observed , a ntmib-r of disagreeable and mischievous consequences which would arise lrom the adoption of the Motionand he could

present , not see anv one good purpose it would answer . Under all these circumstances he should therefore give his decided opposition . Earl Fitzwilliain spoke in support of the Motion . His Lordship went over ncar . y the same ground as Earl Moira had done . He granted all the concessions mane by bis Majesty since his accession to the Throne , as stated by Lord Grcnville , to be true ; but still , he contended , that what had been stated by his Noble 1-iiemi , who made lhe Motion , was equally so . He did not consider the present oaiess as at all with the

^ interfering Legislature of the Sister Kingdom ; hut merely as requesting Ins M ,, j . « y's intercession , to allay those discontents , which , unhappily for the interest and welfare of both countries , at present prevailed to nn alarming degree in Ireland . The motion should therefore have his strenuous support . The Eard of Liverpool opposed the Motion , and recapitulated the arguments of Lord Greuville . Earl Moira replied to the observations of the Noble Lords in Administration

He could not seethe address in the li ght of an interference in the internal Affairs o . lrelano . lhe Noble Lords , who argued against his Motion , had said that the oisconteius of that country had been greatly exaggerated . Lid they reccollect that district after district , parish after parish , and at last , whole counties had been put out of the peace of the King ? Did those noble Lords recollect that in the county of Down , which is one of the largest , the richest , and lhe most industrious 111 lhe kingdom of Ireland , the whole of the inhabitants had been declared out of the of the King ¦ that of the

peace a general disarming , even Protestant subjects n that country , had taken place ; that military parties had been sent in the night to various parts of that country , in order to effect those purposes : thatthese military men were empowered to act with a " vigour beyond the Jaw "—were told hat lhey were not to wait for the aid of magistrates , ' but . to effect their purpose by using force , if lorce should be necessary ? . Under such verv peculiar circumstances he must persist in his endeavours to prevail on their Lordships lo adopt Ins Motion . ' '

The Earl of Guildford said a few words in support of lhe Motion , and Ear ) bpencer against it . ' The Marquis of Lansdowne imputed the present state of Ireland to the measures that had been adopted by his Majesty's Ministers . He made use of the expression of ins Majesty ' s Ministers , because the Crown itself had always shewn a disposition to redress the grievances complained of by the Irish : He instanced in proof ot this assertion , the very favourable manner in which lhe representation , from te Catholics received when

,, were they were transmitted to the Crown from I- ! :,., . D' ! S umcm > " > -speclmg the interfering with the Irish Legislature , and observed , that there was a wide difference between interference for tne purpose ol oppression and interference for the purpose of affording reel . He dreaded the union now forming- between the Protestants and Catholics ,, which he thought would be productive of the most alarming effects . There ih ! ir , "' Ci"cn > " 10 , ; men « ' I"land : the first were better known from their daunguess , and there were not wanting persons among them celebrated in

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Report Of The Proceedings Of The British Parllament.

: . Ute of the neighbouring kingdom . It was impossible for anv man to doubt tha paternal aiiecnon of his Majesty for thepeopleofihe kingdom of Ireland . During ins reign , t . iey had been freed from ever .- di = abiiitv under which tlu-v had laboured curing the reigns of his ancesiors . Thev liad obtained an absolute inciepeneence ot their Parliament . n that of this country , by the repeal of the Act otbljeo 1 . lhey had obtained entire emancipation from lhe ultimate jurisdiction of the British House of Peers in their judicialcapacity . Thev had also in icspect to religious restrictions received the alleviation from his

greatest Majesty s benecctncc . lliese were facts which sufficiently evinced his Majesty's paternal afiection for the people of Ireland . IU therefore thought , that after t . iat people had contended so strenuousl y for the freedom and independence of tneir Legislature , any interference on the part of the Legislature of this Countrv in the internal affairs of Ireland would be highly improper . There were , his Lordship observed , a ntmib-r of disagreeable and mischievous consequences which would arise lrom the adoption of the Motionand he could

present , not see anv one good purpose it would answer . Under all these circumstances he should therefore give his decided opposition . Earl Fitzwilliain spoke in support of the Motion . His Lordship went over ncar . y the same ground as Earl Moira had done . He granted all the concessions mane by bis Majesty since his accession to the Throne , as stated by Lord Grcnville , to be true ; but still , he contended , that what had been stated by his Noble 1-iiemi , who made lhe Motion , was equally so . He did not consider the present oaiess as at all with the

^ interfering Legislature of the Sister Kingdom ; hut merely as requesting Ins M ,, j . « y's intercession , to allay those discontents , which , unhappily for the interest and welfare of both countries , at present prevailed to nn alarming degree in Ireland . The motion should therefore have his strenuous support . The Eard of Liverpool opposed the Motion , and recapitulated the arguments of Lord Greuville . Earl Moira replied to the observations of the Noble Lords in Administration

He could not seethe address in the li ght of an interference in the internal Affairs o . lrelano . lhe Noble Lords , who argued against his Motion , had said that the oisconteius of that country had been greatly exaggerated . Lid they reccollect that district after district , parish after parish , and at last , whole counties had been put out of the peace of the King ? Did those noble Lords recollect that in the county of Down , which is one of the largest , the richest , and lhe most industrious 111 lhe kingdom of Ireland , the whole of the inhabitants had been declared out of the of the King ¦ that of the

peace a general disarming , even Protestant subjects n that country , had taken place ; that military parties had been sent in the night to various parts of that country , in order to effect those purposes : thatthese military men were empowered to act with a " vigour beyond the Jaw "—were told hat lhey were not to wait for the aid of magistrates , ' but . to effect their purpose by using force , if lorce should be necessary ? . Under such verv peculiar circumstances he must persist in his endeavours to prevail on their Lordships lo adopt Ins Motion . ' '

The Earl of Guildford said a few words in support of lhe Motion , and Ear ) bpencer against it . ' The Marquis of Lansdowne imputed the present state of Ireland to the measures that had been adopted by his Majesty's Ministers . He made use of the expression of ins Majesty ' s Ministers , because the Crown itself had always shewn a disposition to redress the grievances complained of by the Irish : He instanced in proof ot this assertion , the very favourable manner in which lhe representation , from te Catholics received when

,, were they were transmitted to the Crown from I- ! :,., . D' ! S umcm > " > -speclmg the interfering with the Irish Legislature , and observed , that there was a wide difference between interference for tne purpose ol oppression and interference for the purpose of affording reel . He dreaded the union now forming- between the Protestants and Catholics ,, which he thought would be productive of the most alarming effects . There ih ! ir , "' Ci"cn > " 10 , ; men « ' I"land : the first were better known from their daunguess , and there were not wanting persons among them celebrated in

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