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ere were a proof . At present they had not more than three days work per week , and if the plan were carried into effect , they would not have more iJian one . He had on a former occasion opposed the was ; nor did he think Ministers sincerely desirous of peace . He thought them influenced by the same sentiments as Mr . Burke had been ; that gentleman had constantly asserted that the representative government must be destroyed in France , or that the same system would be introduced in England , to the annihilation of our Constitution , of King , Lords , and Commons .

The Secretary at War said , that the failure ofthe negociation had been due to persons on whom the Hon . Gentleman certainly did not wish to bear hard , the "French Directory . The object of French revolutionists was to plunder the higher orders of society , and to direct the vengeance of that country against this . Mr . Hobhouse , after some previous remarks , said , that the tax was an absolute requisition , and one ofthe most iniquitous kind , since it was apparent that , while men of smali fortunes would pay a tenth of their income , the rich would not pay to much as a twenty-fifth . Re said that it would produce national immorality ,

people would do as in Holland , where , from the relative produce of two contributions , it had been proved that they had perjured themselves to save their property ; it would dry up national chanty as the wine tax had done , since which the rich had no longer afforded that restoring cordial to their sick poor . If there should be another campaign , the triple lax must be tripled , and so on . Mr . Hobhouse then entered into an examination of the conduct of the present Administration . By interfering , said he , in the internal affairs of of other states , they plunged us into a ruinous wara war which they miht frequentlhave terminatedThey

, g y . have attempted to bully other potentates , but have withdrawn their mandates on the slightest shew of resistance . They have borrowed money on bad terms to subsidize faithless allies . They have sent money out of the country without the consent of parliament , and the parliament at the time sitting . They have introduced a system of espionage , of setting brother against brother , and man against

man . They have destroyed the credit ot the Bank , and made'it bankrupt , while the national faith had been shamefully violated . They have cut off the people , from the liberty of speech , and all the means of acquiring political information . They have soivn deep the seeds of our destruction , and novo are ' about to reap the harvest of plunder and peculation . Col . Wood thought the plan defective , because the rich were not called upon for their just proportion . He conceived the personal property in this kingdom to amount to 6 or 7 hundred millions ; landed property to as much more ; East and West India added to these

being , he thought the whole not less than twentyhundred millions , which , at one per cent , would produce twenty-millions . Mr . Tierney said , that ofthe Noblemen and Placemen who had talked of sacrificing their fortunes . to the war , Had any one contributed more than he was compelled to do ? Did the Rt . Hon . Gentleman ( Mr . Dundas ) who was bedaubed with emoluments , give one voluntary far'hing out ofthe io , oool . a year which he received ? Not even his carriages would subject him to proportionate taxation ; for the Secretary of State rides in the carriage of the President of the Board of

Controul , and wilh him may be seen the Treasurer ofthe Navy . The Minister in his spirit of plunder , left the nation no alternative . Because he ( Mr , Tierney j paid for two carriages last year , he must this year , even if he laid them down , Pay for eight . Because a poor man had ventured his half-crown for his silver watch , he must now , perhaps , pay its full value . Lord Temple , although he gave his assent to the measure , thought it would bear very hard on country gentlemen of moderate fortunes , while many great capitalists would avoid its operation .

Sir Robert Maekreth conceived an equal land-tax and the sale ofthe crown and forest lands would be preferable . Messrs . Plumer , Pierrepoint , and Martin opposed the measure ; and thought an esemptionof the Royal Family and their dependants from burdens that pressed co hard on every one else , to he unjust . Messrs . Bunion and Ellison approved of the tax , and believed that Jus Majesty had enough to do with his money .

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Untitled Article 1
Untitled Article 2
LONDON. Article 2
TO CORRESPONDENTS, &c. Article 3
MEMOIR OF THE REV. WILLIAM ROMAINE, A. M. Article 4
A REVIEW OF THE LIFE AND WRITINGS OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE EDMUND BURKE. Article 7
LIFE OF MR. GARRICK. Article 10
ON THE INFELICITIES OF THE LEARNED. Article 13
THE COLLECTOR. Article 15
COMPARISON BETWEEN THE ANTIENTS AND MODERNS IN SCIENCE AND LITERATURE. Article 18
ON THE INFLUENCE OF GOVERNMENT ON THE MENTAL FACULTIES. Article 20
OBSERVATIONS ON THE ENGLISH STYLE OF WRITING Article 25
ON FAMILY GOVERNMENT. Article 26
THE FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 27
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 30
REVIEW OF NEW PUBLICATIONS. Article 34
POETRY. Article 40
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 44
REPORT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT. Article 48
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 49
SECOND SESSION OF THE EIGHTEENTH PARLIAMENT. Article 54
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 58
MONTHLY CHRONICLE. Article 70
OBITUARY. Article 79
LIST OF BANKRUPTS. Article 81
INDEX TO THE NINTH VOLUME. Article 83
Untitled Article 86
LONDON: Article 86
A REVIEW OF THE LIFE AND WRITINGS OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE EDMUND BURKE. Article 87
ACCOUNT OF THE BIRTH-PLACE AND MONUMENT OF BUCHANAN. Article 90
VOLTAIRE. Article 92
SINGULAR WILL. Article 92
ON THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE DUTCH REPUBLIC. Article 94
THE LIFE AND ADVENTURES OF PETER PORCUPINE; Article 101
THE SAD EFFECTS OF A FAUX PAS. Article 108
THE CHANGE OF CLIMATE IN THE MIDDLE COLONIES OF NORTH-AMERICA. Article 110
THE FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 114
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 116
MONTHLY CHRONICLE. Article 117
CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF THE MOST REMARKABLE OCCURRENCES IN THE YEAR 1797. Article 137
Untitled Article 157
LIST OF BANKRUPTS . Article 159
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House Of Commons.

ere were a proof . At present they had not more than three days work per week , and if the plan were carried into effect , they would not have more iJian one . He had on a former occasion opposed the was ; nor did he think Ministers sincerely desirous of peace . He thought them influenced by the same sentiments as Mr . Burke had been ; that gentleman had constantly asserted that the representative government must be destroyed in France , or that the same system would be introduced in England , to the annihilation of our Constitution , of King , Lords , and Commons .

The Secretary at War said , that the failure ofthe negociation had been due to persons on whom the Hon . Gentleman certainly did not wish to bear hard , the "French Directory . The object of French revolutionists was to plunder the higher orders of society , and to direct the vengeance of that country against this . Mr . Hobhouse , after some previous remarks , said , that the tax was an absolute requisition , and one ofthe most iniquitous kind , since it was apparent that , while men of smali fortunes would pay a tenth of their income , the rich would not pay to much as a twenty-fifth . Re said that it would produce national immorality ,

people would do as in Holland , where , from the relative produce of two contributions , it had been proved that they had perjured themselves to save their property ; it would dry up national chanty as the wine tax had done , since which the rich had no longer afforded that restoring cordial to their sick poor . If there should be another campaign , the triple lax must be tripled , and so on . Mr . Hobhouse then entered into an examination of the conduct of the present Administration . By interfering , said he , in the internal affairs of of other states , they plunged us into a ruinous wara war which they miht frequentlhave terminatedThey

, g y . have attempted to bully other potentates , but have withdrawn their mandates on the slightest shew of resistance . They have borrowed money on bad terms to subsidize faithless allies . They have sent money out of the country without the consent of parliament , and the parliament at the time sitting . They have introduced a system of espionage , of setting brother against brother , and man against

man . They have destroyed the credit ot the Bank , and made'it bankrupt , while the national faith had been shamefully violated . They have cut off the people , from the liberty of speech , and all the means of acquiring political information . They have soivn deep the seeds of our destruction , and novo are ' about to reap the harvest of plunder and peculation . Col . Wood thought the plan defective , because the rich were not called upon for their just proportion . He conceived the personal property in this kingdom to amount to 6 or 7 hundred millions ; landed property to as much more ; East and West India added to these

being , he thought the whole not less than twentyhundred millions , which , at one per cent , would produce twenty-millions . Mr . Tierney said , that ofthe Noblemen and Placemen who had talked of sacrificing their fortunes . to the war , Had any one contributed more than he was compelled to do ? Did the Rt . Hon . Gentleman ( Mr . Dundas ) who was bedaubed with emoluments , give one voluntary far'hing out ofthe io , oool . a year which he received ? Not even his carriages would subject him to proportionate taxation ; for the Secretary of State rides in the carriage of the President of the Board of

Controul , and wilh him may be seen the Treasurer ofthe Navy . The Minister in his spirit of plunder , left the nation no alternative . Because he ( Mr , Tierney j paid for two carriages last year , he must this year , even if he laid them down , Pay for eight . Because a poor man had ventured his half-crown for his silver watch , he must now , perhaps , pay its full value . Lord Temple , although he gave his assent to the measure , thought it would bear very hard on country gentlemen of moderate fortunes , while many great capitalists would avoid its operation .

Sir Robert Maekreth conceived an equal land-tax and the sale ofthe crown and forest lands would be preferable . Messrs . Plumer , Pierrepoint , and Martin opposed the measure ; and thought an esemptionof the Royal Family and their dependants from burdens that pressed co hard on every one else , to he unjust . Messrs . Bunion and Ellison approved of the tax , and believed that Jus Majesty had enough to do with his money .

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