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Monthly Chronicle.

rests to be treated of , being , after this event , neither so extensive nor so complicated as they were before . ' The Court of London , always desirous of employing such mean ' s as are best calculated to contribute to this object , so interesting to the happiness ofthe two nations , is unwilling to omit renewing to the French Government the assurance of the continuance of its dispositions on this subject . And the undersigned is authorized to propose to the Minister for Foreign Affairs to enter without delay , and in such manner . as shall be judged the most expedient , upon the discussion of

the views and pretensions of each party for the regulation of the Preliminaries of a Peace , which may be definitr . ely arranged at the future Congress . ' As soon as the form of this negociation shall have been agreed upon , the British Government will be ready to concur in it , by taking on its part such measures as are Ihe most proper for accelerating the re-establishment of tne public tranquility . IVesiminster , June I , 1797 . GRENVILLE . ' No . 2 . —M . Delacroix in his answer proposed that the Neghciatiohs should be set on foot at once for a Definitive Treaty . This proceeding appears to the

Directory preferable to a Congress , of which the result must be remote , and which does not correspond with the ardent desire that il has lo re-establish , as quickly as possible , Peace between the two Powers . ' June 4 . No . 3 . —Lord Grenville desired to know the wish of the Directory as to the place of the Negociation ; and requested the necessary passports , that no time might be lost in sending a Plenipotentiary . ' No . 4 . —M . Delacroix fixes Lisle as the place of meeting , dated Junenth . No . 5 . —Contains the passport . No . 6 , 7 8 9 10 ncontains only

reci-, , , , , procal explanations and information on points of little interest . No . 12 . contains extracts of a dispatch from Lord Malmesbury to Lord Grenville , dated Lisle , July 11 , 1797 , to the following effect : ' . On Sunday evening I received the inclosed note ( C ) from the French Plenipotentiaries , and in consequence of it went to the proposed conference yesterday . ' One of the French Plenipotentiaries informed me on the subject of the Projet

I had given them , and the note with which I had accompanied it , that as these papers contain many points on which their instructions did not enable them to answer , they had , after haying given them a very serious attention , sent them , with such observations as they thought it their duty to make on them , to the Directory , and that the moment they received an answer , they would communicate it to me . But that in the meanwhile , not to delay the progress ofthe negociation , they wished that several points which he termed insulated , but which , though not referred to in our Projet , were , he said , inseparably connected with

the general subject of peace , might be discussed and got rid of now , if I had no objection , and that it was with this view they had requested me to meet them . On my not expressing any disapprobation to this mode of proceeding , one of the French Plenipotentiaries began by saying , that in the preamble of the treaty , the title of King of France was used ; that this title , they contended , couid no longer he insisted on ; the abolition o \ ' it was in a maimer essential to thefacknowlerigment of the French Republic , and that as it was merely titular , as far as it related to his Majestvbut quite otherwise in the sense in which it applied to them

, , he hoped it would not be considered as an important concession . ' I informed him , that on all former occasions a separate article had been agreed to , which appeared to me to answer every purpose they required , and which it was my intention , as the Treaty advanced , 10 have proposed , as proper to make part of this . The article ( the first ofthe separate ones in the Treaty of 1783 ) was then read , but they objected to it , as not fully meeting their views . It was to the title itself , as well as to any right which might be supposed to arise from itthat they objected . I could scarcely allow myself to treat this mode of

, reasoning seriously . I endeavoured to make them feel that it was cavilling for a mere word ; that it was creating difficulties where none existed ; and that if all the French Monarch's , in the course of three centuries , had allowed this to stand in the preamble of all treaties and transactions between the two countries , I could not conceive how it could now affect either the dignity , security , or importance of the Republic ; that in fact such titles , have ever been considered $ 3 VOL . IX . „ . 3 K

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LONDON. Article 2
TO CORRESPONDENTS, &c. Article 3
MEMOIR OF THE REV. WILLIAM ROMAINE, A. M. Article 4
A REVIEW OF THE LIFE AND WRITINGS OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE EDMUND BURKE. Article 7
LIFE OF MR. GARRICK. Article 10
ON THE INFELICITIES OF THE LEARNED. Article 13
THE COLLECTOR. Article 15
COMPARISON BETWEEN THE ANTIENTS AND MODERNS IN SCIENCE AND LITERATURE. Article 18
ON THE INFLUENCE OF GOVERNMENT ON THE MENTAL FACULTIES. Article 20
OBSERVATIONS ON THE ENGLISH STYLE OF WRITING Article 25
ON FAMILY GOVERNMENT. Article 26
THE FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 27
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 30
REVIEW OF NEW PUBLICATIONS. Article 34
POETRY. Article 40
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 44
REPORT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT. Article 48
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 49
SECOND SESSION OF THE EIGHTEENTH PARLIAMENT. Article 54
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 58
MONTHLY CHRONICLE. Article 70
OBITUARY. Article 79
LIST OF BANKRUPTS. Article 81
INDEX TO THE NINTH VOLUME. Article 83
Untitled Article 86
LONDON: Article 86
A REVIEW OF THE LIFE AND WRITINGS OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE EDMUND BURKE. Article 87
ACCOUNT OF THE BIRTH-PLACE AND MONUMENT OF BUCHANAN. Article 90
VOLTAIRE. Article 92
SINGULAR WILL. Article 92
ON THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE DUTCH REPUBLIC. Article 94
THE LIFE AND ADVENTURES OF PETER PORCUPINE; Article 101
THE SAD EFFECTS OF A FAUX PAS. Article 108
THE CHANGE OF CLIMATE IN THE MIDDLE COLONIES OF NORTH-AMERICA. Article 110
THE FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 114
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 116
MONTHLY CHRONICLE. Article 117
CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF THE MOST REMARKABLE OCCURRENCES IN THE YEAR 1797. Article 137
Untitled Article 157
LIST OF BANKRUPTS . Article 159
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Monthly Chronicle.

rests to be treated of , being , after this event , neither so extensive nor so complicated as they were before . ' The Court of London , always desirous of employing such mean ' s as are best calculated to contribute to this object , so interesting to the happiness ofthe two nations , is unwilling to omit renewing to the French Government the assurance of the continuance of its dispositions on this subject . And the undersigned is authorized to propose to the Minister for Foreign Affairs to enter without delay , and in such manner . as shall be judged the most expedient , upon the discussion of

the views and pretensions of each party for the regulation of the Preliminaries of a Peace , which may be definitr . ely arranged at the future Congress . ' As soon as the form of this negociation shall have been agreed upon , the British Government will be ready to concur in it , by taking on its part such measures as are Ihe most proper for accelerating the re-establishment of tne public tranquility . IVesiminster , June I , 1797 . GRENVILLE . ' No . 2 . —M . Delacroix in his answer proposed that the Neghciatiohs should be set on foot at once for a Definitive Treaty . This proceeding appears to the

Directory preferable to a Congress , of which the result must be remote , and which does not correspond with the ardent desire that il has lo re-establish , as quickly as possible , Peace between the two Powers . ' June 4 . No . 3 . —Lord Grenville desired to know the wish of the Directory as to the place of the Negociation ; and requested the necessary passports , that no time might be lost in sending a Plenipotentiary . ' No . 4 . —M . Delacroix fixes Lisle as the place of meeting , dated Junenth . No . 5 . —Contains the passport . No . 6 , 7 8 9 10 ncontains only

reci-, , , , , procal explanations and information on points of little interest . No . 12 . contains extracts of a dispatch from Lord Malmesbury to Lord Grenville , dated Lisle , July 11 , 1797 , to the following effect : ' . On Sunday evening I received the inclosed note ( C ) from the French Plenipotentiaries , and in consequence of it went to the proposed conference yesterday . ' One of the French Plenipotentiaries informed me on the subject of the Projet

I had given them , and the note with which I had accompanied it , that as these papers contain many points on which their instructions did not enable them to answer , they had , after haying given them a very serious attention , sent them , with such observations as they thought it their duty to make on them , to the Directory , and that the moment they received an answer , they would communicate it to me . But that in the meanwhile , not to delay the progress ofthe negociation , they wished that several points which he termed insulated , but which , though not referred to in our Projet , were , he said , inseparably connected with

the general subject of peace , might be discussed and got rid of now , if I had no objection , and that it was with this view they had requested me to meet them . On my not expressing any disapprobation to this mode of proceeding , one of the French Plenipotentiaries began by saying , that in the preamble of the treaty , the title of King of France was used ; that this title , they contended , couid no longer he insisted on ; the abolition o \ ' it was in a maimer essential to thefacknowlerigment of the French Republic , and that as it was merely titular , as far as it related to his Majestvbut quite otherwise in the sense in which it applied to them

, , he hoped it would not be considered as an important concession . ' I informed him , that on all former occasions a separate article had been agreed to , which appeared to me to answer every purpose they required , and which it was my intention , as the Treaty advanced , 10 have proposed , as proper to make part of this . The article ( the first ofthe separate ones in the Treaty of 1783 ) was then read , but they objected to it , as not fully meeting their views . It was to the title itself , as well as to any right which might be supposed to arise from itthat they objected . I could scarcely allow myself to treat this mode of

, reasoning seriously . I endeavoured to make them feel that it was cavilling for a mere word ; that it was creating difficulties where none existed ; and that if all the French Monarch's , in the course of three centuries , had allowed this to stand in the preamble of all treaties and transactions between the two countries , I could not conceive how it could now affect either the dignity , security , or importance of the Republic ; that in fact such titles , have ever been considered $ 3 VOL . IX . „ . 3 K

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