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House Of Commons.

" The Noble Lord is shrinking—state the names of those Members ? " —Lord AT / THORP ( across the table ) . Does the Hon . Member accuse me of shrinking ? — Mr . SIIIEL . Tell us the name of our accuser ( "Order . " )—Mr . O'CONNELL . — I retract the word " shrinking . " I feel that I ought not to use a harsh expression towards the Noble Lord I now ask the Noble Lord who are the Irish Members who have acted

as he has described ? Lord ALTHORP . —I am answerable for what I say , ancl I have no right to shift the responsibility upon others . I am perfectly ready to name the Irish Members to whom I have alluded if they choose to call upon me ; but unless they do so , I think I should not be justified in doing it ( cheers ) . —Mr . O'CONNELL . I am authorized by every Irish

Member now present ( " No ! " ) —then I ask the Noble Lord whether I am one of the Members to whom he alludes ?—Lord ALTHORP . NO . — Mr . FINN . Am I one —Lord ALTHORP . NO . —Mr . SHIEL and several other Irish Members rose with the view of putting the same question . Great confusion prevailed , and shouts of " Order" and " Chair . " Mr . HUME thought that the discussion must now terminate . He appealed to the Chair whether his Hon . and Learned Friend coulcl proceed further in the matter . —Mr . O'CONNELL saicl that after the

imputation on " more than one" Irish Member , an opportunity of clearing themselves ought to be given to those who ' demanded it . —Mr . SHIEL . Am I one of the Members to whom he alludes ?—Lord ALTHORP . The Hon . Gent , is one ( confusion ) . —Mr . SHIEL , And I , in the face of this House , in the face of my country , and in the presence of my Gocl—I say , if any individual ever communicated that I expressed my approbation of

the Coercion Bill , he has been guilty of a scandalous falsehood ( cheers ) . As the Noble Lord has intimated his own responsibility for the allegation , I shall not now dwell upon the subject further . —Mr . O'CONNELL , after what had just passed , felt it his duty to retract the language he had applied to Mr . Hill , ancl to beg his pardon for having used such language . —Mr . HILL said he was satisfied ivith this retractation . He

lamented the time chosen , one of domestic calamity to him , by Mr . O'Connell for his attack on him . ( Hear , hear . ) The SPEAKER felt it to be impossible that the subject could terminate ivhere it then was , but he was sure the House would agree with him that it coulcl only he set at rest within those walls . —Mr . O'CONNELL concurred . If he had known that Mr . Hill was suffering under a

domestic calamity he would have abstained from any remarks whatever , until such time as they might be used without the pain to his feelings which the presence of a domestic calamity ivould create . He now thanked him for accepting his apology . —A long ancl stormy discussion

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THE FREEMASON'S QUARTERLY REVIEW. Article 1
Bt &* Article 2
TO THAT DISTINGUISHED Jfwtmason (Whateve... Article 3
CONTENTS. Article 4
THE FREEMASON'S QUARTERLY REVIEW. Article 5
ON FREEMASONRY. Article 13
THE MASON. Article 18
BOARDS, COMMITTEES, &c. Article 41
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 43
Masonic Obituary. Article 52
PROVINCIAL. Article 53
OFFICERS OF THE GRAND LODGE OF SCOTLAND. Article 59
KNIGHTS TEMPLARS OF SCOTLAND. Article 60
OFFICERS OF THE GRAND LODGE OF IRELAND. Article 60
THE SECOND JUBILEE IN COMMEMORATION OF HANDEL. Article 61
THE FATE OF GENIUS. Article 67
LOVES OF THE FLOWERS. Article 71
THE TRAPPISTS. Article 72
THE BIRTH AND PROGRESS OF MUSIC. Article 77
MISCELLANEOUS. Article 79
REVIEW OF LITERATURE—FINE ARTS—EXHIBITIONS—THE DRAMA, &c. Article 85
PARLIAMENTARY ANALYSIS. Article 94
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 99
FLOGGING IN THE ARMY. Article 104
THE FREEMASON'S QUARTERLY REVIEW. Article 111
fe. ^&* *£¦* ^-^ ' ~ ~ - * " -™ ~^ ^c ^r... Article 112
GRAY'S INN WINE ESTABLISHMENT, Article 113
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House Of Commons.

" The Noble Lord is shrinking—state the names of those Members ? " —Lord AT / THORP ( across the table ) . Does the Hon . Member accuse me of shrinking ? — Mr . SIIIEL . Tell us the name of our accuser ( "Order . " )—Mr . O'CONNELL . — I retract the word " shrinking . " I feel that I ought not to use a harsh expression towards the Noble Lord I now ask the Noble Lord who are the Irish Members who have acted

as he has described ? Lord ALTHORP . —I am answerable for what I say , ancl I have no right to shift the responsibility upon others . I am perfectly ready to name the Irish Members to whom I have alluded if they choose to call upon me ; but unless they do so , I think I should not be justified in doing it ( cheers ) . —Mr . O'CONNELL . I am authorized by every Irish

Member now present ( " No ! " ) —then I ask the Noble Lord whether I am one of the Members to whom he alludes ?—Lord ALTHORP . NO . — Mr . FINN . Am I one —Lord ALTHORP . NO . —Mr . SHIEL and several other Irish Members rose with the view of putting the same question . Great confusion prevailed , and shouts of " Order" and " Chair . " Mr . HUME thought that the discussion must now terminate . He appealed to the Chair whether his Hon . and Learned Friend coulcl proceed further in the matter . —Mr . O'CONNELL saicl that after the

imputation on " more than one" Irish Member , an opportunity of clearing themselves ought to be given to those who ' demanded it . —Mr . SHIEL . Am I one of the Members to whom he alludes ?—Lord ALTHORP . The Hon . Gent , is one ( confusion ) . —Mr . SHIEL , And I , in the face of this House , in the face of my country , and in the presence of my Gocl—I say , if any individual ever communicated that I expressed my approbation of

the Coercion Bill , he has been guilty of a scandalous falsehood ( cheers ) . As the Noble Lord has intimated his own responsibility for the allegation , I shall not now dwell upon the subject further . —Mr . O'CONNELL , after what had just passed , felt it his duty to retract the language he had applied to Mr . Hill , ancl to beg his pardon for having used such language . —Mr . HILL said he was satisfied ivith this retractation . He

lamented the time chosen , one of domestic calamity to him , by Mr . O'Connell for his attack on him . ( Hear , hear . ) The SPEAKER felt it to be impossible that the subject could terminate ivhere it then was , but he was sure the House would agree with him that it coulcl only he set at rest within those walls . —Mr . O'CONNELL concurred . If he had known that Mr . Hill was suffering under a

domestic calamity he would have abstained from any remarks whatever , until such time as they might be used without the pain to his feelings which the presence of a domestic calamity ivould create . He now thanked him for accepting his apology . —A long ancl stormy discussion

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