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United Grand Lodge Of England.
crowded muster on the dais—sure to vote against a popular measurebut an array of Past Grancl Stewards , connected with the eighteen red apron lodges ; and further there were many estimable brethren who were at all times indisposed to prevent the confirmation of minutes , —to say nothing of many who viewed the dais as the hopeful prospect of their masonic vision -. to expect success was scarcel y rational , although to
deserve it was felt by independent brethren to be within the range of a sound principle . He should vote for Bro . Bigg ' s amendment . * Bro . JOHN SAVAGE considered that the authorized report of the proceedings of Grand Lodge was not simply defective but altogether unfair ; his own speech was so different from what he delivered that he felt compelled to deny the version as so published—in fact he considered the authorized report to be altogether a burlesque on reportingand for the
, future he would prefer being passed over without any comment , than to be so misrepresented . Much stress had been laid on the discretion of the President of the Board of General Purposes on all occasions , but the flatterers of that brother had altogether forgotten that it was not so longsince that the same brother had come down to Grand Lodge with a motion which , if carried , would have made the Board of Benevolence a hole and corner affair , and in fact have disfranchised every master of a
lodge under the English constitution . It was ridiculous to witness the contradiction in principle—he should support the amendment . Bro . M'MULLEN had suggested that Bro . Bigg ' s motion should be laid before the Grand Master , ancl the President coulcl not , in justice to
his own position , have acted otherwise than he did . In fact , the notice presented to the Grand Master , and that presented to the Grand Lodge , were not the same—in the former eighteen Grand Stewards were named , in the latter twenty-four . Bro . LEE STEVENS was proceeding to condemn the authorized version of the transactions in Grand Lodge , alluded to by Bro . Savage ; but was reminded b y the Deputy Grand Master that the report was not then the of discussionWhen the
subject . worshipful brother , expressing his entire concurrence with the propriety of all that had been advanced b y Bro . Bigg , said the Grand Lodge should remember , that the confirmation of the minutes would be , virtually , advice to them all , never to submit anything to the preliminary opinion of the Grand Master ; whilst , upon the declaration of the R . W . Bro . Alston , it would be held to establish a precedent of the exercise of irresponsible power bthe President of the
y Board of General Purposes . Bro . HERVEY—The debate had ranged throughout the eighteen redapron lodges ancl all other lodges , but the only matter for consideration was whether the President of the Board was right in not putting the question—there was really no other point before the Grand Lodge . Bro . SCARBOROUGH thought that the clause 20 in the Book of Constitutions was sufficiently clear . It stated " that the Board ( of General
Purposes ) may recommend to the Grand Lodge whatever it shall deem necessary or advantageous to the welfare and good government of the Craft , " & c , and if so , he apprehended that Bro . Dobie was bound to put the question ; otherwise it should be read " that 'Bro . Dobie , * or the ' President , ' of the Board of General Purposes may recommend , " & c , which in effect would make that Board a mere puppet , with Bro . Dobie
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United Grand Lodge Of England.
crowded muster on the dais—sure to vote against a popular measurebut an array of Past Grancl Stewards , connected with the eighteen red apron lodges ; and further there were many estimable brethren who were at all times indisposed to prevent the confirmation of minutes , —to say nothing of many who viewed the dais as the hopeful prospect of their masonic vision -. to expect success was scarcel y rational , although to
deserve it was felt by independent brethren to be within the range of a sound principle . He should vote for Bro . Bigg ' s amendment . * Bro . JOHN SAVAGE considered that the authorized report of the proceedings of Grand Lodge was not simply defective but altogether unfair ; his own speech was so different from what he delivered that he felt compelled to deny the version as so published—in fact he considered the authorized report to be altogether a burlesque on reportingand for the
, future he would prefer being passed over without any comment , than to be so misrepresented . Much stress had been laid on the discretion of the President of the Board of General Purposes on all occasions , but the flatterers of that brother had altogether forgotten that it was not so longsince that the same brother had come down to Grand Lodge with a motion which , if carried , would have made the Board of Benevolence a hole and corner affair , and in fact have disfranchised every master of a
lodge under the English constitution . It was ridiculous to witness the contradiction in principle—he should support the amendment . Bro . M'MULLEN had suggested that Bro . Bigg ' s motion should be laid before the Grand Master , ancl the President coulcl not , in justice to
his own position , have acted otherwise than he did . In fact , the notice presented to the Grand Master , and that presented to the Grand Lodge , were not the same—in the former eighteen Grand Stewards were named , in the latter twenty-four . Bro . LEE STEVENS was proceeding to condemn the authorized version of the transactions in Grand Lodge , alluded to by Bro . Savage ; but was reminded b y the Deputy Grand Master that the report was not then the of discussionWhen the
subject . worshipful brother , expressing his entire concurrence with the propriety of all that had been advanced b y Bro . Bigg , said the Grand Lodge should remember , that the confirmation of the minutes would be , virtually , advice to them all , never to submit anything to the preliminary opinion of the Grand Master ; whilst , upon the declaration of the R . W . Bro . Alston , it would be held to establish a precedent of the exercise of irresponsible power bthe President of the
y Board of General Purposes . Bro . HERVEY—The debate had ranged throughout the eighteen redapron lodges ancl all other lodges , but the only matter for consideration was whether the President of the Board was right in not putting the question—there was really no other point before the Grand Lodge . Bro . SCARBOROUGH thought that the clause 20 in the Book of Constitutions was sufficiently clear . It stated " that the Board ( of General
Purposes ) may recommend to the Grand Lodge whatever it shall deem necessary or advantageous to the welfare and good government of the Craft , " & c , and if so , he apprehended that Bro . Dobie was bound to put the question ; otherwise it should be read " that 'Bro . Dobie , * or the ' President , ' of the Board of General Purposes may recommend , " & c , which in effect would make that Board a mere puppet , with Bro . Dobie