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To Our Readers.

TO OUR READERS .

The FREEMASON IS a Weekly Newspaper , price 2 d « It is published every Friday morning , and contains thc most important , interesting , and useful information relating to Freemasonry in every degree . Subscription , including postage : United America , India , India , China , & c

Kingdom , the Continent , & c . Via Brindisi . Twelve Months ios . 6 d . 12 s . od . 17 s . 4 d . Six „ 5 s . 3 d . 6 s . 6 d . 8 s . 8 d . Three „ 2 s . 8 d , 3 s . 3 d . 4 s . 6 d . Subscriptions may be paid for in stamps , but Post Office Orders or Cheques are preferred , the former payable to

GEORGE KENNING , CHIEF OFFICE , LONDON , the latter crossed London Joint Stock Bank . Advertisements and other business communications should be addressed to the Publisher . Communications on literary subjects and books for

review are to be forwarded to the Editor . Anonymous correspondence will be wholly disregarded , and the return cf rejected MSS . cannot be guaranteed . Further information will be supplied ov application to Ihe Publisher , 108 , Fleet-street , London .

Important Notice.

IMPORTANT NOTICE .

COLONIAL and FOREIGN SUBSCRIBERS are informed that acknowledgments of remittances received are published in the first number of every month .

It is very necessary for our readers to advise us of all money orders they remit , more especially those from the United States of America and India ; otherwise we cannot tell where to credit them .

Several P . O . O . ' s are now in hand , but having received no advice we cannot credit them . . 4 ,

REMITTANCES RECEIVED . £ s . d . Abadoo , J . M ., Cape Coast Castle , o 13 o Bone , "W . E ., Queensland , ... 150 Booth , W „ N . S . W ., o \ 2 o Brady , H . Sloane , St . Helena , e , o o

Brown , II . D ., Liberia , 18 10 6 Burger , H . J ., Jamaica o 12 o Crossley , James , The Cape , , 120 Davis , A . E ., Africa , 160 Edwards G ., New York , o 13 0 Francis , H . E ., Paris , o 12 o

Graham , T . S ., New Zealand , 188 Halkett , J ., Cape Town , ... ... ... 100 Harmsweirtb , C . J ., Natal , ... 1 9 6 Howard , W . C , The Cape , ... o 13 o Loelge of Harmony , Cawnporc , 1 30

Pein ' ans , W . F ., Bolisia , ... ... ... 1160 Porter , Capt ., New Zealand , 1 14 o Seller ) , T ., Peru ,... ... ... ... ... 0120 Store , W . H ., Japan , ... ... ... ... 200 Whithourne , J . W ., Jamaica , 300

Answers To Correspondents.

Answers to Correspondents .

In answer to numerous correspondents , wc beg to state , on the authority of Bro . D . Murray Lyon , R . W . Grand Secretary , that the Laws of the Grand Lodge of Scotland are still uneler revision , anel that due notice will be given when ready .

BOOKS RECEIVED . The Report of the Masonic Female Orphan School Dublin ; Medical Examiner ; Hull Packet ; The Scottish Freemason ; The Broad Arrow ; Brief ; Risorgimento ; Der Mangel ; The Masonic Record nf Western India ; The Freemasons , Monthly ; The Magazine of Art ; Proceedings of the Great Priory of Canada ; Maxims and Miscellanies for Merchants and Business Men .

Births Marriages And Deaths.

Births Marriages and Deaths .

[ The charge is 2 s . 6 d . for announcements , not exceedi ng four lines , under this heading . ] BIRTHS . HART-DAVIS . —On thc 2 ( ilh ult ., at Dunselen Vicarage , Reading , Ihe wife of the Rev . R . 1 ) . Hart-Davis , of a daughter . NI-AI .. —On the 2 GU 1 ult ., al Mount Pleasant , Clifton , the wife of the Rev . J . Neal , of a son . STESSINC . —On the 2 S 1 I 1 ult ., at Grcenlands , Caterham , the wife of II . E . Stenning , of a elaughter .

DEATHS . Cm . i . 's . —On the 24 th ult ., in London , after four years of , incessant suffering , Charles Collis , formerly of Great Dunmow , aged 72 . PEHCEVAI .. —On the 25 th ult ., al Eastbourne , Catherine , relict of Lieut-Col . )' . J . Perceval , Grenadier Guards . TowssiiiiNi ) . —On the 20 th inst ., at 30 , Upper Fitzwillianistrett , Dublin , Ellen , the wife of J . F . TownshendEsq .

, L . L . D . VEUITY . —On the 21 st ult ., John Verity , of the Villiers ; Lodge No . iiij 4 , Isleworth , aged 43 . Deeply lamented .

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Our Charitable Institutions.

OUR CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS .

We have been much amused , ( though it is no laughing matter ) , with some rrcent utterances of the Charity Voting Reform Association—especially their last offi-ial report . Such statements as are contained in their last report , for instance , are to us either a proof of a perverse

desire to find fault , or of sensational love of change for change sake ; or else arc the natural " outcome" of positive ignorance of the important subject on which we are favoured with so much florid dogmatism . We have never , we say it unhesitatingly , read a production which so

challenges criticism and so invites condemnation , or which is more marked , from first to last , by the absence of any quality which renders it reliable or even readable . It is simply a "loud " compilation , ( to use the slang of the day ) , a mixture of morbidity and "high falutin , " which

it is positively painful , if not humiliating , to peruse . What can be more ridiculously untrue than this ? " There is the hi ghest authority for saying , ' if any man will not work , neither shall he eat , ' and our so-called charities , as long as they continue to ignore this fundamental

principle , can never be anything better than artificial sources of pauperism and misery . " The poor working man , struck down by an accident , throbbing with fever , must work , or rather pay —for charity ! Is there such a thing as charity left in the world ? Or what can any reasonable or

reasoning man say to the following choice specimen of unfairness , and even worse : — " When we go beyond hospitals to the innumerable institutions for which appeals are made every day , it would probably be difficult to find a singh one which wonld letter mi I ted to exist in a perfect / 11

well-governed Sletle , or which does not , on the fairest computation , do more harm than good . The various Voting Charities , for example , are hurtful to the community in many ways . Their system of contested elections induces the friends of the majority of the candidates to spend more

money than they can afford , and inflicts bitter loss and disappointment upon the numerous applicants who never had a chance of success . The elections must be virtually purchased , often as the cheapest way of escape from the duty of maintaining an old servant or some other

dependant . When the result is made known , the elected candidate is either an old person , who is then taken away from all the associations of his past life or a child , to whom an institution is for several years to be put in the place of a home ; or one who is in some way afflicted , deaf it may

be , or blind , or semi-imbecile , and whose future existence is then to be that of a phenomenon , an example , a living witness of the bounty of the governors and of the wisdom of the managing committee . " We utterly deny the entire statement . As regards the Voting Charities the

assertions are most incorrect , and , to say the truth , unjustifiable , and though there are , no doubt , defects in all our organizations , they are such as careful and considerate administration can easily cure . Such a description , officially

given too as a professedly true description of all our medical charities , is a parody alike on all that we are accustomed to consider truth , honour , gratitude , or justice . It is , without doubt , one of the most useless and ridiculous caricatures of

the existing state of things which it has ever been our lot lo wade through . We cannot understand this perverse misrepresentation of things as they are in truth , thus making everything dark and uncomfortable . Perhaps like the Mrs . Gamp and Mrs . Harris of old , our talkative and

reforming "old ladies" to-day are seeking to make others as "nervous " as they are professedly and professionally themselves , and , therefore , these sensational stimulants are absolutely necessary . This crusade against charities proceeds on two

assumptions , each equally fallacious , and we must add false , "lhat a central committee will do better than open voting , and that all gratuitous gifts are , per se . bad . " We protest against the entire tone of this last report , as alike un-

Our Charitable Institutions.

founded , selfish , and unfair , for it is this mournfully hard line theory which underlies much of the movements of impractical theorists just now , and more of the efforts of noisy refonrers of the present hour , and we deeply regret to see so much energy thrown away , to prop up so weak and so unsound a proposition of a so-called

chanty reform , a movement which will never be supported by the sound common sense and practical religion of our thinking and serious people . If such views ever prevail we shall have driven true charity out of the land . Useful and seasonable reform is one thing , empty-handed and empty headed revolution is quite another thing .

The Beginning Of A Masonic Revolution.

THE BEGINNING OF A MASONIC REVOLUTION .

We note in the Monde Maconnique the commencement of a Masonic revolution , which , as it is duly heialded by Bro . Grinnaux , and not dis 3 pproved of by Bro . Caubet , may be said to be fairly enough the last deliverance of the Grand Orient of France . Unfortunately , like many similar proceedings , it is simply revolutionary according to our view and belief . It seems that at Port

Louis , in the Mauritius , an English Colony , the French Grand Orient has lately granted a charter to a new lodge , " L'Amitie , " which was consecrated Jan . 28 , 18 / 8 , despite a formal protest from the Lodge of Harmony , under the English Constitution . This clearly intrusive and irregular

proceeding is justified on two grounds , ist ., that the French Grand Orient had originally founded lodges in the Mauritius before the English occupation ; and andly ., that every Mason has " * le droit de se placer sous l ' obedience de 1 ' autorite Maconnique dont les doctrines lui convenaient

le mieux , —page 489 . "The right to place him selfunderthe obedience of the Masonic authority whose doctiines aremostagreeableto him . " With rega .-d to the first ground , though we do not deny that old l . dges so founded may continue their connection with their foundation authorit y

we utterly deny the right of an alien Masonio authority to found a new lodge in another tetritory , which is under the lawful jurisdiction of a lawful national Grand Lodge . But what will our readers say of the second ground ? Surely it is the most revolutionary and

dangerous that has been propounded by any Masonic authority , and let us note the " reductio 3 d absurdum" to which the Grand Orient must be brought . If such is Masonic international law , any English Masons in Prance and Belgium may claim a Charter from the

English Grand Lodge on the ground , firstly , that the English Grand Lodge first warranted Lodges in France , and secondly , that they prefer the teaching of the English Grand Lodge , especially tinder recent circumstances . Such an official act on the part of the Grand Orient of France ,

in the present condition of affairs , shows a most unmistakeable animus , and may be productive of most serious consequences as regards the relations between the two Grand bodies of England and France . Wejdeplore it ' more than we can say , in the interests of Masonic peace ,

but we fear that in the present temper of French Freemasonry neither the English , nor any other Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry can expect any other treatment . Our American friends will say " well , we have always warned you of what

must be the conseqence of the illegal constitution and ? postacy ofthe French Grand Orient . " We confess that we regret to have to real ize such an experience of how far faction will even lead Masons , but we think it well to note it for the information of our brethren . The act in itself

is so illegal , and the grounds alleged are so absurd , that we can only sadly recall to day the old line ofthe scholiast , " Quern Deus vult perdere prius dementat . "

The "Monde Maconnique " And The " Freemason."

THE "MONDE MACONNIQUE " AND THE " FREEMASON . "

We have seen Bro . Caubet ' s remarks with respect to our humble selves , in the last number of the Monde Maconnique , butwe do not realise what we have to say in reply . Bro . Caubet takes one view , strongly , of the whole matter , we take another , and we are not likely , moreover , to agree ; and thus the matter must remain . Time ,

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CONTENTS. Article 1
SUPREME GRAND CHAPTER. Article 1
REPORTS OF MASONIC MEETINGS. Article 1
Mark Masonry. Article 2
Red Cross of Constantine. Article 2
Obituary. Article 2
FESTIVAL OF THE STABILITY LODGE OF INSTRUCTION. Article 3
OUR V.P.C. AT WATERLOO. Article 4
Masonic and General Tidings. Article 4
Reviews. Article 5
Public Amusements. Article 5
NOTES ON ART, &c. Article 5
TO OUR READERS. Article 6
IMPORTANT NOTICE. Article 6
Answers to Correspondents. Article 6
Births Marriages and Deaths. Article 6
Untitled Article 6
OUR CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS. Article 6
THE BEGINNING OF A MASONIC REVOLUTION. Article 6
THE "MONDE MACONNIQUE " AND THE " FREEMASON." Article 6
OUR BANK HOLIDAYS. Article 7
THE NEW GRAND OFFICERS. Article 7
Original Correspondence. Article 8
CONSECRATION OF THE ECLECTIC CHAPTER, No. 1201. Article 10
THE PRINCE OF "WALES AND THE FREEMASONS Article 11
FREEMASONRY AND CIVILIZATION. Article 11
PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE OF WEST YORKSHIRE. Article 11
METROPOLITAN MASONIC MEETINGS. Article 12
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To Our Readers.

TO OUR READERS .

The FREEMASON IS a Weekly Newspaper , price 2 d « It is published every Friday morning , and contains thc most important , interesting , and useful information relating to Freemasonry in every degree . Subscription , including postage : United America , India , India , China , & c

Kingdom , the Continent , & c . Via Brindisi . Twelve Months ios . 6 d . 12 s . od . 17 s . 4 d . Six „ 5 s . 3 d . 6 s . 6 d . 8 s . 8 d . Three „ 2 s . 8 d , 3 s . 3 d . 4 s . 6 d . Subscriptions may be paid for in stamps , but Post Office Orders or Cheques are preferred , the former payable to

GEORGE KENNING , CHIEF OFFICE , LONDON , the latter crossed London Joint Stock Bank . Advertisements and other business communications should be addressed to the Publisher . Communications on literary subjects and books for

review are to be forwarded to the Editor . Anonymous correspondence will be wholly disregarded , and the return cf rejected MSS . cannot be guaranteed . Further information will be supplied ov application to Ihe Publisher , 108 , Fleet-street , London .

Important Notice.

IMPORTANT NOTICE .

COLONIAL and FOREIGN SUBSCRIBERS are informed that acknowledgments of remittances received are published in the first number of every month .

It is very necessary for our readers to advise us of all money orders they remit , more especially those from the United States of America and India ; otherwise we cannot tell where to credit them .

Several P . O . O . ' s are now in hand , but having received no advice we cannot credit them . . 4 ,

REMITTANCES RECEIVED . £ s . d . Abadoo , J . M ., Cape Coast Castle , o 13 o Bone , "W . E ., Queensland , ... 150 Booth , W „ N . S . W ., o \ 2 o Brady , H . Sloane , St . Helena , e , o o

Brown , II . D ., Liberia , 18 10 6 Burger , H . J ., Jamaica o 12 o Crossley , James , The Cape , , 120 Davis , A . E ., Africa , 160 Edwards G ., New York , o 13 0 Francis , H . E ., Paris , o 12 o

Graham , T . S ., New Zealand , 188 Halkett , J ., Cape Town , ... ... ... 100 Harmsweirtb , C . J ., Natal , ... 1 9 6 Howard , W . C , The Cape , ... o 13 o Loelge of Harmony , Cawnporc , 1 30

Pein ' ans , W . F ., Bolisia , ... ... ... 1160 Porter , Capt ., New Zealand , 1 14 o Seller ) , T ., Peru ,... ... ... ... ... 0120 Store , W . H ., Japan , ... ... ... ... 200 Whithourne , J . W ., Jamaica , 300

Answers To Correspondents.

Answers to Correspondents .

In answer to numerous correspondents , wc beg to state , on the authority of Bro . D . Murray Lyon , R . W . Grand Secretary , that the Laws of the Grand Lodge of Scotland are still uneler revision , anel that due notice will be given when ready .

BOOKS RECEIVED . The Report of the Masonic Female Orphan School Dublin ; Medical Examiner ; Hull Packet ; The Scottish Freemason ; The Broad Arrow ; Brief ; Risorgimento ; Der Mangel ; The Masonic Record nf Western India ; The Freemasons , Monthly ; The Magazine of Art ; Proceedings of the Great Priory of Canada ; Maxims and Miscellanies for Merchants and Business Men .

Births Marriages And Deaths.

Births Marriages and Deaths .

[ The charge is 2 s . 6 d . for announcements , not exceedi ng four lines , under this heading . ] BIRTHS . HART-DAVIS . —On thc 2 ( ilh ult ., at Dunselen Vicarage , Reading , Ihe wife of the Rev . R . 1 ) . Hart-Davis , of a daughter . NI-AI .. —On the 2 GU 1 ult ., al Mount Pleasant , Clifton , the wife of the Rev . J . Neal , of a son . STESSINC . —On the 2 S 1 I 1 ult ., at Grcenlands , Caterham , the wife of II . E . Stenning , of a elaughter .

DEATHS . Cm . i . 's . —On the 24 th ult ., in London , after four years of , incessant suffering , Charles Collis , formerly of Great Dunmow , aged 72 . PEHCEVAI .. —On the 25 th ult ., al Eastbourne , Catherine , relict of Lieut-Col . )' . J . Perceval , Grenadier Guards . TowssiiiiNi ) . —On the 20 th inst ., at 30 , Upper Fitzwillianistrett , Dublin , Ellen , the wife of J . F . TownshendEsq .

, L . L . D . VEUITY . —On the 21 st ult ., John Verity , of the Villiers ; Lodge No . iiij 4 , Isleworth , aged 43 . Deeply lamented .

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The Freemason , SATURDAY , MAY 4 , 1878 » — . ¦¦¦ — ¦ — -, . . —— — _ I

Our Charitable Institutions.

OUR CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS .

We have been much amused , ( though it is no laughing matter ) , with some rrcent utterances of the Charity Voting Reform Association—especially their last offi-ial report . Such statements as are contained in their last report , for instance , are to us either a proof of a perverse

desire to find fault , or of sensational love of change for change sake ; or else arc the natural " outcome" of positive ignorance of the important subject on which we are favoured with so much florid dogmatism . We have never , we say it unhesitatingly , read a production which so

challenges criticism and so invites condemnation , or which is more marked , from first to last , by the absence of any quality which renders it reliable or even readable . It is simply a "loud " compilation , ( to use the slang of the day ) , a mixture of morbidity and "high falutin , " which

it is positively painful , if not humiliating , to peruse . What can be more ridiculously untrue than this ? " There is the hi ghest authority for saying , ' if any man will not work , neither shall he eat , ' and our so-called charities , as long as they continue to ignore this fundamental

principle , can never be anything better than artificial sources of pauperism and misery . " The poor working man , struck down by an accident , throbbing with fever , must work , or rather pay —for charity ! Is there such a thing as charity left in the world ? Or what can any reasonable or

reasoning man say to the following choice specimen of unfairness , and even worse : — " When we go beyond hospitals to the innumerable institutions for which appeals are made every day , it would probably be difficult to find a singh one which wonld letter mi I ted to exist in a perfect / 11

well-governed Sletle , or which does not , on the fairest computation , do more harm than good . The various Voting Charities , for example , are hurtful to the community in many ways . Their system of contested elections induces the friends of the majority of the candidates to spend more

money than they can afford , and inflicts bitter loss and disappointment upon the numerous applicants who never had a chance of success . The elections must be virtually purchased , often as the cheapest way of escape from the duty of maintaining an old servant or some other

dependant . When the result is made known , the elected candidate is either an old person , who is then taken away from all the associations of his past life or a child , to whom an institution is for several years to be put in the place of a home ; or one who is in some way afflicted , deaf it may

be , or blind , or semi-imbecile , and whose future existence is then to be that of a phenomenon , an example , a living witness of the bounty of the governors and of the wisdom of the managing committee . " We utterly deny the entire statement . As regards the Voting Charities the

assertions are most incorrect , and , to say the truth , unjustifiable , and though there are , no doubt , defects in all our organizations , they are such as careful and considerate administration can easily cure . Such a description , officially

given too as a professedly true description of all our medical charities , is a parody alike on all that we are accustomed to consider truth , honour , gratitude , or justice . It is , without doubt , one of the most useless and ridiculous caricatures of

the existing state of things which it has ever been our lot lo wade through . We cannot understand this perverse misrepresentation of things as they are in truth , thus making everything dark and uncomfortable . Perhaps like the Mrs . Gamp and Mrs . Harris of old , our talkative and

reforming "old ladies" to-day are seeking to make others as "nervous " as they are professedly and professionally themselves , and , therefore , these sensational stimulants are absolutely necessary . This crusade against charities proceeds on two

assumptions , each equally fallacious , and we must add false , "lhat a central committee will do better than open voting , and that all gratuitous gifts are , per se . bad . " We protest against the entire tone of this last report , as alike un-

Our Charitable Institutions.

founded , selfish , and unfair , for it is this mournfully hard line theory which underlies much of the movements of impractical theorists just now , and more of the efforts of noisy refonrers of the present hour , and we deeply regret to see so much energy thrown away , to prop up so weak and so unsound a proposition of a so-called

chanty reform , a movement which will never be supported by the sound common sense and practical religion of our thinking and serious people . If such views ever prevail we shall have driven true charity out of the land . Useful and seasonable reform is one thing , empty-handed and empty headed revolution is quite another thing .

The Beginning Of A Masonic Revolution.

THE BEGINNING OF A MASONIC REVOLUTION .

We note in the Monde Maconnique the commencement of a Masonic revolution , which , as it is duly heialded by Bro . Grinnaux , and not dis 3 pproved of by Bro . Caubet , may be said to be fairly enough the last deliverance of the Grand Orient of France . Unfortunately , like many similar proceedings , it is simply revolutionary according to our view and belief . It seems that at Port

Louis , in the Mauritius , an English Colony , the French Grand Orient has lately granted a charter to a new lodge , " L'Amitie , " which was consecrated Jan . 28 , 18 / 8 , despite a formal protest from the Lodge of Harmony , under the English Constitution . This clearly intrusive and irregular

proceeding is justified on two grounds , ist ., that the French Grand Orient had originally founded lodges in the Mauritius before the English occupation ; and andly ., that every Mason has " * le droit de se placer sous l ' obedience de 1 ' autorite Maconnique dont les doctrines lui convenaient

le mieux , —page 489 . "The right to place him selfunderthe obedience of the Masonic authority whose doctiines aremostagreeableto him . " With rega .-d to the first ground , though we do not deny that old l . dges so founded may continue their connection with their foundation authorit y

we utterly deny the right of an alien Masonio authority to found a new lodge in another tetritory , which is under the lawful jurisdiction of a lawful national Grand Lodge . But what will our readers say of the second ground ? Surely it is the most revolutionary and

dangerous that has been propounded by any Masonic authority , and let us note the " reductio 3 d absurdum" to which the Grand Orient must be brought . If such is Masonic international law , any English Masons in Prance and Belgium may claim a Charter from the

English Grand Lodge on the ground , firstly , that the English Grand Lodge first warranted Lodges in France , and secondly , that they prefer the teaching of the English Grand Lodge , especially tinder recent circumstances . Such an official act on the part of the Grand Orient of France ,

in the present condition of affairs , shows a most unmistakeable animus , and may be productive of most serious consequences as regards the relations between the two Grand bodies of England and France . Wejdeplore it ' more than we can say , in the interests of Masonic peace ,

but we fear that in the present temper of French Freemasonry neither the English , nor any other Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry can expect any other treatment . Our American friends will say " well , we have always warned you of what

must be the conseqence of the illegal constitution and ? postacy ofthe French Grand Orient . " We confess that we regret to have to real ize such an experience of how far faction will even lead Masons , but we think it well to note it for the information of our brethren . The act in itself

is so illegal , and the grounds alleged are so absurd , that we can only sadly recall to day the old line ofthe scholiast , " Quern Deus vult perdere prius dementat . "

The "Monde Maconnique " And The " Freemason."

THE "MONDE MACONNIQUE " AND THE " FREEMASON . "

We have seen Bro . Caubet ' s remarks with respect to our humble selves , in the last number of the Monde Maconnique , butwe do not realise what we have to say in reply . Bro . Caubet takes one view , strongly , of the whole matter , we take another , and we are not likely , moreover , to agree ; and thus the matter must remain . Time ,

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