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TO ADVERTISERS . The FREEMASON has a large circulation in all parts of the Globe , its advantages as an advertising medium can therefore scarcely he overrated . ADVERTISEMENTS should reach the Office , 19 S , Fleetstreet , London , by 12 o'clock on Wednesdays .
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NOTICE .
To prevent delay or miscarriage , it is particularly requested that ALL communications for the FREEMASON , may be addressed to the Office , rgS , Fleet-street , London .
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IMPORTANT NOTICE .
COLONIAL and FOREIGN SUBSCRIBERS are informed that acknowledgments of remittances received are published in the first number of every month .
It is very necessary for our readers to advise us of all money orders they remit , more especially those from the United States of America and India ; otherwise we cannot tell where to credit them .
Remittances Received.
REMITTANCES RECEIVED .
A s . a . Abadoo , J . M ., Cape Coast Castle ( P . O . O . ) ... o 13 o British Kaffrarian Lodge , The Cape ( P . O . O . ) ... 149 Cunningham , D . ( Inhabitants Lodge ) ( Cash ) ... 21 17 o Dumbrille , J ., Ontatio ( P . O . O . ) 080 GoUlsmilh , D ., Panama ( P . O . O . ) 200
Gonzales , L ., Trinidad ( P . O . O . ) 1 7 o Gottleib , F . H ., India ( P . O . O . ) tio 8 Haigh , Jno ., U . S . A . ( P . O . O . ) 013 o Hay ward , F . A ., Victoria ( P . O . O . ) 1 o o Howard , W . C , The Cape ( P . O . O . ) 013 o Lagos Lodge , Africa ( P . O . O . ) 3 5 o Mac-key , H . A ., New York ( P . O . O . ) o 13 o
May , J . J ., New Zealand ( P . O . O . ) 0120 Mount Gambier Lodge , Victoria ( P . O . O . ) too Noel , W . E . N ., Malta ( Cheque ) 019 3 Peacock , J . R ., California ( P . O . O . ) o 19 9 Philadelphia Library , U . S . A o 16 o Rock Lodge , Trichinopoly ( P . O . O . ) 200
Royal Prince of Wales ' s Lodge , Penang 3 16 o Smithcrs , E . J ., The Cape ( P . O . O . ) 1 o o Sutton , General , U . S . A . ( B . of E . ) o 12 o Tate , Jno ., India ( P . O . O . ) 3 12 o Wetherill , H ., Constantinople ( P . O . O . ) o 14 f ) Wilson , M . ( P . O . O . ) Barbadoes 215 o
Answers To Correspondents.
Answers to Correspondents .
Owing to several very pressing matters of Masonic interest , two very important letters on the " Qualification of Candidates for the Masonic Institutions , " and " Election of Provincial Candidates to the Masonic Charities , " stand ever unavoidably until next week . Bro . R . J . Simpson ' s letter in our next : unfortunately crowded out . We shall be most happy always to insert any letter from him , but we cannot undertake to print
noninasomc communications . Bro . Strauss ' s letter in our next . Reports of the following lodges also stand over : — Union , 129 ; laith , 141 ; Stuart , 540 ; Royal Albert , 907 ; Lord Warthn , 1 C 96 ; Stockwell , 1339 ; Hemming , 1512 . Roj : ; 1 Cumberland Mark Lodge , Bath .
I 300 KS , & c ., RECEIVED . "The Loudon Guide , and Classified Advertiser , " "Little Folks , " " Le Bulletin du Grand Orient , " " Keystone , " " Freemasons' Repository , " " Masonic Journal , " " The Lawyer ' s Client , " " Some Account of a New System of Elementary Teaching , " " La Chaine D'Un ' wn , " New York Dispatch . "
Births ,Marriages And Deaths.
Births , Marriages and Deaths .
[ The charge is 2 s . 6 d . for announcements , not exceeding four lines , under this heading , ]
BIR'l US . BUTLER . —On the 26 th ult ., at The Laurels , Wvthdcane , the wife of J . Butler , of a son . SCOTT . —On the 30 th ult ., at Cornwall-villas , Tufnell Park , Mrs . H . C . Scott , of a daughter . WHITE . —On the 28 th ult ., the wife of the Rev . T . A . S . White , M . A ., of BaJen-I 3 iden , of a daughter .
DEATHS . BOWI - . —On the 28 th ult ., at Hillside Lodge , Forest hill , Margaret , widow of the late R . K . Bowley , aged 54 . GREGORY . —On the 30 th ult ., at his residence in Leicester , William Gregory , solictor , of the firm of Messrs . Miles ,
Gregory , and Bouskell , in the 74 th year of his age . Friends will please accept this intimation . OWEN . —On the 28 th ult ., at Bentley-road , Liverpool , Ambrose Myall Owen , in his 61 st year . SNOW . —On the 2 yth ult ., at Tredcgar-. ? quare , Emma , relict of the late Bro . W . E . Snow , J . P ., in her 7 6 th year .
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The Freemason , SATURDAY , MAY 5 , 1877 .
The Movements Of Our Royal Grand Master.
THE MOVEMENTS OF OUR ROYAL GRAND MASTER .
The Prince of Wales reached Marseilles on Wednesday morning , the 2 nd inst ., in the Sultan , and was saluted by a French man-of-war , as also by the guns of the port , on landing . He was expected to reach Paris on the 3 rd inst . The Prince was waited upon by the authorities , and landed at 3 p . m . to take the train for Paris . He is said to have received great benefit from his tour .
Bros. Caubet And Grimaux.
BROS . CAUBET AND GRIMAUX .
We have received the Monde Maconnique for April , and note that Bros . Caubet and Grimaux have thought it well to " return to the charge . " We therefore take their remarks seriatim , and leave of them at the same time , auguring but little good for the future of French Freemasonry
if the spirit evinced by these two well-known brethren be in any sense that of French Freemasons generally . First , as regards Bro . Grimaux . His position , as exemplified in his last " Communique " to the Monde Macannhjue , is made , in our opinion much worse by the
Jesuitical sophistry which characterizes it from first to last . Bro . Grimaux ori g inally stated that a 'Grande Loge des Philadelp hes etde la Concorde reunis , '' met in London , and that Bro . Valleton had issued a circular " dans l'interct des Marjons anglais . " We pointed out that no such Grand
Lodge existed or could exist in London , and that any body of men calling themselves a Grand Lodge was an irregular and clandestine body . We added that Bro . Valleton had no authority to profess to act "dans l'interct" of our English brethren , as English Freemasons are represented
by our Grand Master , the Prince of Wales , chairman of a national committee in respect of the French Exposition of 1878 . We were told in reply by Bro . Grimaux that the Loge des Philadelphes was only irregular " bien malgre elle , " that is , because it had no warrant from our
English Grand Lodge , and then practically not irregular at all , and that it was not clandestine because it had openly avowed its existence . We then ventured to assert that some Jesuit must have directed the pen of Bro . Grimaux , because no more sophistical unmasonic position had ever
been assumed by any one in Freemasonry . We also told Bro . Grimaux that his facts were incorrect , that the Lodge " Les Philadelphes , " a body about which our Grand Lodge warned the English brethren some time ago , and which has been repudiated by the Grand Orient of France
itself , has never applied for a warrant , on the contrary , it has continued a spurious and illegal body , glorying in its own shame . It is true that " La Concorde" had applied and was very properly refused , and to a body composed of these two spurious so-called lodges , the Monde
Maconniipie gives the name of a regular Grand Lodge . What is Bro . Grimaux ' s reply ? Risum teneatis Fratresjj He coolly says to-day that he told us , " comment e ' etait une loge irreguliere et clandestine , " that it was only irregular through its misfortune , not its fault , and not at
all clandestine ! Can the force of Jesuitical subterfuge or verbal chicanery any further go ? We think not , and therefore we beg respectfully to take our leave of Bro . Grimaux and the Grande Loge des Philadelphes , as utterly unworthy any further notice by legal and
loyal Freemasons . Bro . Caubet affects to be both sarcastic and facetious , and utterly fails in each category . It is quite clear that Bro . Caubet has not realized the word toleration , because wemust beg to say to him that { profession is one thing , practice is another . In our humble opinion it is most intolerant on the part of the
" Jibres penseurs , " to endeavour to erase a familiar , if religious formula , from French Freemasonry , which suicidal act will be a stumbling block to thousands upon thousands of serious and devout Masons . Intolerance is not only shown in the form and letter , which Bro , Caubet apparently forgets , but in the
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spirit and the motive . The French Grand Orient has a complete right , we admit ( if it be so ill advised ) , to erase the " belief in God" as a fundamental condition of acceptance from its constitution ; but then it must not be surprised if we Anglo-Saxon Freemasons
who look upon this truth as the first great landmark of Freemasonry , if we Anglo-Saxon Freemasons , we repeat , decline to have any thing to do Masonically with our French brethren , who have so deviated from what we honestly consider to be an eternal obligation of cosmopolitan
Freemasonry . Bro . Caubet hardly sees either how the Masonic character of the Grand Orient may be affected by this untoward revolu . tion . It is simply because we wish well to French Freemasonry that we have spoken as
warmly as we have on the subject . It is because we feel the matter strongly and conscientiously that we have offered our humble advice honestly and fraternally to our French brethren . That it is misconstrued we cannot
help ; that we are told we have neither " raison " nor anything else is no fault of ours . We have spoken freely , fairly , truly , honestly , in fear of God and in love for man . We have treated the question entirely " au serieux , " as Anglo-Saxon Freemasons ' can alone treat it , and
let us hope will ever alone treat it , and we can only deeply regret that our views and those of Bro . Caubet are as far as the " poles asunder . " But Bro . Caubet will permit us to observe , in conclusion , that the tone in which he has . " aborde " this most grave
question is neither very reasonable , nor very Masonic , nor very courteous to us . There is a menacing manner and an almost bullying temper about it , which are very offensive to high-spirited English Freemasons . Somehow or other there seems to come with it ' a reminiscence of violent
words and unseemly deeds , which proclaimed , so to say , not long ago , in "la Grande Ville , " an age of "deraison ' and of "barbarisme . " We are not accustomed to such language in English Freemasonry as the remarks ' which have recently fallen from Bro . Grimaux about cheap Bibles ,
or our much beloved and truly valued Grand Secretary , Bro . John Hervey , or even our humble selves . But we leave the subject here to-day . When Bro . Caubet , and those who think with him , have emerged from their passing excitement and agitation , when all
these " fanfaronnades " are over ; when we can talk seriously and sanely , and above all , as true Freemasons should discuss such matters , we shall be most happy to look at the matter from its philosophical side , and peacefully compare our opposing systems in France and England . But at present Bro . Caubet and others are clearly
not in a fit condition to discuss the subject , having lost both their good sense and their good temper , and we can only recommend some of our worthy but fiery brethren a little calm retreat in a " maison de santeV' Then perhaps they will appreciate our honest and English expression of religious reverence and of good will , better than they seem to do " pour le moment . "
The City Guilds.
THE CITY GUILDS .
The controversy which has been raised recently with reference to this most important question continues ; and as most diametrically , opposite views have been expressed to ours last week , we think it well to return to the subject to-day . Mr . Roland P . Phillips has intervened in the Times and , "inter alia , " has said : " The
Solicitor General's argument that the Guilds are analogous in all respects to the West-end Clubs and other voluntary associations shows a brave disregard of history and is sufficiently refuted by the simple fact that the Companies , whatever they were originally , became in time not voluntary associations at all . By their charters tlwy were empowered to compel every artificer 0
craftsman belonging to any particular trade take up his freedom in the Company . F ° ' . he was taxable , and if he declined , he \ vas no permitted to carry on his calling with ' . £ jurisdiction of the Guild—sometimes extendin g to a district of ten or even ao miles outside City area . The fees and dues thus levied _ wer one source of their wealth '; for in those simp
Note: This text has been automatically extracted via Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software.
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TO ADVERTISERS . The FREEMASON has a large circulation in all parts of the Globe , its advantages as an advertising medium can therefore scarcely he overrated . ADVERTISEMENTS should reach the Office , 19 S , Fleetstreet , London , by 12 o'clock on Wednesdays .
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NOTICE .
To prevent delay or miscarriage , it is particularly requested that ALL communications for the FREEMASON , may be addressed to the Office , rgS , Fleet-street , London .
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IMPORTANT NOTICE .
COLONIAL and FOREIGN SUBSCRIBERS are informed that acknowledgments of remittances received are published in the first number of every month .
It is very necessary for our readers to advise us of all money orders they remit , more especially those from the United States of America and India ; otherwise we cannot tell where to credit them .
Remittances Received.
REMITTANCES RECEIVED .
A s . a . Abadoo , J . M ., Cape Coast Castle ( P . O . O . ) ... o 13 o British Kaffrarian Lodge , The Cape ( P . O . O . ) ... 149 Cunningham , D . ( Inhabitants Lodge ) ( Cash ) ... 21 17 o Dumbrille , J ., Ontatio ( P . O . O . ) 080 GoUlsmilh , D ., Panama ( P . O . O . ) 200
Gonzales , L ., Trinidad ( P . O . O . ) 1 7 o Gottleib , F . H ., India ( P . O . O . ) tio 8 Haigh , Jno ., U . S . A . ( P . O . O . ) 013 o Hay ward , F . A ., Victoria ( P . O . O . ) 1 o o Howard , W . C , The Cape ( P . O . O . ) 013 o Lagos Lodge , Africa ( P . O . O . ) 3 5 o Mac-key , H . A ., New York ( P . O . O . ) o 13 o
May , J . J ., New Zealand ( P . O . O . ) 0120 Mount Gambier Lodge , Victoria ( P . O . O . ) too Noel , W . E . N ., Malta ( Cheque ) 019 3 Peacock , J . R ., California ( P . O . O . ) o 19 9 Philadelphia Library , U . S . A o 16 o Rock Lodge , Trichinopoly ( P . O . O . ) 200
Royal Prince of Wales ' s Lodge , Penang 3 16 o Smithcrs , E . J ., The Cape ( P . O . O . ) 1 o o Sutton , General , U . S . A . ( B . of E . ) o 12 o Tate , Jno ., India ( P . O . O . ) 3 12 o Wetherill , H ., Constantinople ( P . O . O . ) o 14 f ) Wilson , M . ( P . O . O . ) Barbadoes 215 o
Answers To Correspondents.
Answers to Correspondents .
Owing to several very pressing matters of Masonic interest , two very important letters on the " Qualification of Candidates for the Masonic Institutions , " and " Election of Provincial Candidates to the Masonic Charities , " stand ever unavoidably until next week . Bro . R . J . Simpson ' s letter in our next : unfortunately crowded out . We shall be most happy always to insert any letter from him , but we cannot undertake to print
noninasomc communications . Bro . Strauss ' s letter in our next . Reports of the following lodges also stand over : — Union , 129 ; laith , 141 ; Stuart , 540 ; Royal Albert , 907 ; Lord Warthn , 1 C 96 ; Stockwell , 1339 ; Hemming , 1512 . Roj : ; 1 Cumberland Mark Lodge , Bath .
I 300 KS , & c ., RECEIVED . "The Loudon Guide , and Classified Advertiser , " "Little Folks , " " Le Bulletin du Grand Orient , " " Keystone , " " Freemasons' Repository , " " Masonic Journal , " " The Lawyer ' s Client , " " Some Account of a New System of Elementary Teaching , " " La Chaine D'Un ' wn , " New York Dispatch . "
Births ,Marriages And Deaths.
Births , Marriages and Deaths .
[ The charge is 2 s . 6 d . for announcements , not exceeding four lines , under this heading , ]
BIR'l US . BUTLER . —On the 26 th ult ., at The Laurels , Wvthdcane , the wife of J . Butler , of a son . SCOTT . —On the 30 th ult ., at Cornwall-villas , Tufnell Park , Mrs . H . C . Scott , of a daughter . WHITE . —On the 28 th ult ., the wife of the Rev . T . A . S . White , M . A ., of BaJen-I 3 iden , of a daughter .
DEATHS . BOWI - . —On the 28 th ult ., at Hillside Lodge , Forest hill , Margaret , widow of the late R . K . Bowley , aged 54 . GREGORY . —On the 30 th ult ., at his residence in Leicester , William Gregory , solictor , of the firm of Messrs . Miles ,
Gregory , and Bouskell , in the 74 th year of his age . Friends will please accept this intimation . OWEN . —On the 28 th ult ., at Bentley-road , Liverpool , Ambrose Myall Owen , in his 61 st year . SNOW . —On the 2 yth ult ., at Tredcgar-. ? quare , Emma , relict of the late Bro . W . E . Snow , J . P ., in her 7 6 th year .
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The Freemason , SATURDAY , MAY 5 , 1877 .
The Movements Of Our Royal Grand Master.
THE MOVEMENTS OF OUR ROYAL GRAND MASTER .
The Prince of Wales reached Marseilles on Wednesday morning , the 2 nd inst ., in the Sultan , and was saluted by a French man-of-war , as also by the guns of the port , on landing . He was expected to reach Paris on the 3 rd inst . The Prince was waited upon by the authorities , and landed at 3 p . m . to take the train for Paris . He is said to have received great benefit from his tour .
Bros. Caubet And Grimaux.
BROS . CAUBET AND GRIMAUX .
We have received the Monde Maconnique for April , and note that Bros . Caubet and Grimaux have thought it well to " return to the charge . " We therefore take their remarks seriatim , and leave of them at the same time , auguring but little good for the future of French Freemasonry
if the spirit evinced by these two well-known brethren be in any sense that of French Freemasons generally . First , as regards Bro . Grimaux . His position , as exemplified in his last " Communique " to the Monde Macannhjue , is made , in our opinion much worse by the
Jesuitical sophistry which characterizes it from first to last . Bro . Grimaux ori g inally stated that a 'Grande Loge des Philadelp hes etde la Concorde reunis , '' met in London , and that Bro . Valleton had issued a circular " dans l'interct des Marjons anglais . " We pointed out that no such Grand
Lodge existed or could exist in London , and that any body of men calling themselves a Grand Lodge was an irregular and clandestine body . We added that Bro . Valleton had no authority to profess to act "dans l'interct" of our English brethren , as English Freemasons are represented
by our Grand Master , the Prince of Wales , chairman of a national committee in respect of the French Exposition of 1878 . We were told in reply by Bro . Grimaux that the Loge des Philadelphes was only irregular " bien malgre elle , " that is , because it had no warrant from our
English Grand Lodge , and then practically not irregular at all , and that it was not clandestine because it had openly avowed its existence . We then ventured to assert that some Jesuit must have directed the pen of Bro . Grimaux , because no more sophistical unmasonic position had ever
been assumed by any one in Freemasonry . We also told Bro . Grimaux that his facts were incorrect , that the Lodge " Les Philadelphes , " a body about which our Grand Lodge warned the English brethren some time ago , and which has been repudiated by the Grand Orient of France
itself , has never applied for a warrant , on the contrary , it has continued a spurious and illegal body , glorying in its own shame . It is true that " La Concorde" had applied and was very properly refused , and to a body composed of these two spurious so-called lodges , the Monde
Maconniipie gives the name of a regular Grand Lodge . What is Bro . Grimaux ' s reply ? Risum teneatis Fratresjj He coolly says to-day that he told us , " comment e ' etait une loge irreguliere et clandestine , " that it was only irregular through its misfortune , not its fault , and not at
all clandestine ! Can the force of Jesuitical subterfuge or verbal chicanery any further go ? We think not , and therefore we beg respectfully to take our leave of Bro . Grimaux and the Grande Loge des Philadelphes , as utterly unworthy any further notice by legal and
loyal Freemasons . Bro . Caubet affects to be both sarcastic and facetious , and utterly fails in each category . It is quite clear that Bro . Caubet has not realized the word toleration , because wemust beg to say to him that { profession is one thing , practice is another . In our humble opinion it is most intolerant on the part of the
" Jibres penseurs , " to endeavour to erase a familiar , if religious formula , from French Freemasonry , which suicidal act will be a stumbling block to thousands upon thousands of serious and devout Masons . Intolerance is not only shown in the form and letter , which Bro , Caubet apparently forgets , but in the
Bros. Caubet And Grimaux.
spirit and the motive . The French Grand Orient has a complete right , we admit ( if it be so ill advised ) , to erase the " belief in God" as a fundamental condition of acceptance from its constitution ; but then it must not be surprised if we Anglo-Saxon Freemasons
who look upon this truth as the first great landmark of Freemasonry , if we Anglo-Saxon Freemasons , we repeat , decline to have any thing to do Masonically with our French brethren , who have so deviated from what we honestly consider to be an eternal obligation of cosmopolitan
Freemasonry . Bro . Caubet hardly sees either how the Masonic character of the Grand Orient may be affected by this untoward revolu . tion . It is simply because we wish well to French Freemasonry that we have spoken as
warmly as we have on the subject . It is because we feel the matter strongly and conscientiously that we have offered our humble advice honestly and fraternally to our French brethren . That it is misconstrued we cannot
help ; that we are told we have neither " raison " nor anything else is no fault of ours . We have spoken freely , fairly , truly , honestly , in fear of God and in love for man . We have treated the question entirely " au serieux , " as Anglo-Saxon Freemasons ' can alone treat it , and
let us hope will ever alone treat it , and we can only deeply regret that our views and those of Bro . Caubet are as far as the " poles asunder . " But Bro . Caubet will permit us to observe , in conclusion , that the tone in which he has . " aborde " this most grave
question is neither very reasonable , nor very Masonic , nor very courteous to us . There is a menacing manner and an almost bullying temper about it , which are very offensive to high-spirited English Freemasons . Somehow or other there seems to come with it ' a reminiscence of violent
words and unseemly deeds , which proclaimed , so to say , not long ago , in "la Grande Ville , " an age of "deraison ' and of "barbarisme . " We are not accustomed to such language in English Freemasonry as the remarks ' which have recently fallen from Bro . Grimaux about cheap Bibles ,
or our much beloved and truly valued Grand Secretary , Bro . John Hervey , or even our humble selves . But we leave the subject here to-day . When Bro . Caubet , and those who think with him , have emerged from their passing excitement and agitation , when all
these " fanfaronnades " are over ; when we can talk seriously and sanely , and above all , as true Freemasons should discuss such matters , we shall be most happy to look at the matter from its philosophical side , and peacefully compare our opposing systems in France and England . But at present Bro . Caubet and others are clearly
not in a fit condition to discuss the subject , having lost both their good sense and their good temper , and we can only recommend some of our worthy but fiery brethren a little calm retreat in a " maison de santeV' Then perhaps they will appreciate our honest and English expression of religious reverence and of good will , better than they seem to do " pour le moment . "
The City Guilds.
THE CITY GUILDS .
The controversy which has been raised recently with reference to this most important question continues ; and as most diametrically , opposite views have been expressed to ours last week , we think it well to return to the subject to-day . Mr . Roland P . Phillips has intervened in the Times and , "inter alia , " has said : " The
Solicitor General's argument that the Guilds are analogous in all respects to the West-end Clubs and other voluntary associations shows a brave disregard of history and is sufficiently refuted by the simple fact that the Companies , whatever they were originally , became in time not voluntary associations at all . By their charters tlwy were empowered to compel every artificer 0
craftsman belonging to any particular trade take up his freedom in the Company . F ° ' . he was taxable , and if he declined , he \ vas no permitted to carry on his calling with ' . £ jurisdiction of the Guild—sometimes extendin g to a district of ten or even ao miles outside City area . The fees and dues thus levied _ wer one source of their wealth '; for in those simp