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TRAVELLER . —A Gentleman ( P . M . No . 22 ) seeks an ENGAGEMENT to represent a good Firm . Best references , & c . Well-known throughout the kingdom , and can sell anything . —A . B . C , Walduck ' s Hotel , Warwick-court , London , W . C .

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THE ANNUAL BALL OF THE .: BUR . DETT-COU . TTS LODGE , No . 1278 , WILL TAKE PLACE AT CANNON STREET HOTEL On THURSDAY , the 20 th JANUARY , 1883 . Tickets may be obtained from the Hon . Sec , Bro . G . WARD VERRY , Wanstead , E .

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PRIPPLEGATE PENSION ^ SOCIETY . THE ANNUAL BALL Will take place at the CANNON STREET HOTEL , On THURSDAY , FEBRUARY 3 th , 1883 , Under the distinguished patronage of the RT . HON . THE LORD MAYOR & LADY MAYORESS , ALD . & SHERIFF WHITEHEAD & SHERIFF PHILLIPS , ALDERMAN SIR H . E . KNIGHT , The UNDER-SHERIFFS , and the principal Inhabitants of the Ward . DOUBLE TICKET , 21 s ., SINGLE TICKET , 12 s . Cd ., to be obtained of the STEWARDS ; of Mr . DEPUTY NIND , Treasurer to the Society j or of the Hon Sec , Mr . U . KNELL , II , Jewin Crescent , E . C .

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NOW_READY. FIFTEENTH ANNUAL ISSUE . THE COSMOPOLITAN MASONIC Calendar&PocMBook For 1883 , Price 2 s . ; Post Free , 2 s . id . ; 320 pages , flexible Roan , Gilt Edges , Tuck or Elastic Band . " The most comprehensive Masonic Book of Reference issued . " The Cosmopolitan Masonic Calendar contains Ml particulars ot all Grand Masonic Bodies in England , Scotland , and Ireland , with complete lists of Craft Lodges , giving dates of Constitution , Royal Arch Chapters , Mark Lodges , Rose Croix Chapters , Knights Templar Preceptories , Antient and Accepted Rite , Red Cross Conclaves , Colleges , The Allied Masonic Degrees , & c . There are also Lists of London Ciui'T AND MARK LODGES , AND ROYAL ARCH CHAPTERS . Those Meeting in the Country are shewn in towns alphabetically arranged . Tables are given shewing the different Lodges and Chapters grouped under their respective Provinces ; and a List of Lodges and Chapters meeting on Foreign Stations . The London Meetings of the Craft , Royal Arch , Mark , Ancient and Accepted Rite , Knights Templar , and Red Cross are noted in the Memorandum space of each day . Meetings of the various Committees of Grand Lodge , Grand Chapter , and Charitable Institutions are also given . Also the Grand Bodies , with their Officers , in France , Belgium , Switzerland , Germany , Spain , Portugal , Italy , the Netherlands , Sweden and Norway , Denmark , Hungary , Greece , Turkey , E gypt , Canada , Quebec , New Brunswick , British Columbia , United States , Hayti , Central and South America , Republic of Liberia , Cuba , & c , giving in most cases also Lists of Lodges , & c . It also contains the Three Charges and Entered Apprentice ' s Song . May be had of all Booksellers , or at GEORGE KENNING ' S Establishments—LONDON-. 16 & 16 a ., GREAaT QUEEN ST ., Opposite Freemasons' Hall ( Office of " Publication ) : h 2 , 3 , 4 , LITTLE BRITAIN , 195 , 196 , & 197 , ALDERSGATE STREET . % LIVERPOOL : 2 , MONUMENT PLACE . MANCHESTER : 47 , BRIDGE STREET . GLASGOW : 9 , WEST HOWARD ST .

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( SEtJiirntto . tal . HIGH-CLASS PRIVATE SCHOOL THEOBALD'S PARK , WALTHAM CROSS , LONDON , N . PRINCIPAL : Rev . J . OSWALD JACKSON , Assisted by Five Masters . Limited number of Gentlemen's Sons ; motherly care for delicate pupils ; individual teaching for backward ones ; playground of six acres . First Class Honours gained at last Cambridge Local Examinations , with Distinction in Mathematics . References kindly permitted to Rev . Dr . Reynolds , Principal of Cheshunt College , Herts . Rev . Charles E . Mayo , M . A ., Nottingham . Sir Thomas Chambers , M . P ., Recorder of London . Richard Toller , Esq ., Solicitor , Leicester . George Kenning , Esq ., Little Britain .

To Correspondents.

To Correspondents .

The following reports , & c , stand over for want of space : CRAFT : — Thames Lodge , 1 S 95 . INSTRUCTION : — Faith Lodge , 141 . Selwyn Lodge , 1901 .

ROVAL ARCH : — Camden Chapter of Improvement . Presentation to Bro . Eustace .

BOOKS , & c , RECEIVED . "Jewish Chronicle , " " Die Bauhiittc , " " Hull Packet , " " New York Daily News , " " Broad Arrow , " " Sunday Times , " " Freemasons' Journal , " " Citizen , " "Court Circular , " " Young Men ' s Christian Association rimes , " " Voice of Masonry , " "Canadian Craftsman , " "Keystone , " " Tricycling Journal , " "Brass Repousse Work , " " Allen ' s Indian Mail . "

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fev - 'Sipp Pfffn $% Q fHnlfiS KllrtSSillaSSMM^a SATURDAY , JANUARY 10 , 1885 .

Original Correspondence.

Original Correspondence .

[ Wcdo not hold ourselves responsible for , or even approving of the opinionsexpressed by ourcorrespondents , but we wish in a spirit of fair play to all to permit—within certain necessary limits—free dififitQcinr . . 1 . ——

_ THE RED APRON LODGES . To the Editor of the " Freemason . " Dear Sir and Brother , I am much obliged to Bro . Kupferschmidt for his account of the circumstances under which the Pilgrim Lodge resigned its privilege of nominating a Grand Steward . When I wrote my article I did not know what had led the lodge to decline to send up a Steward for 1 S 34 , and 1 am much pleased to have had the matter so clearly explained . —Yours fraternally , E . L . HAWKINS .

MASONIC MENDICANCY . To the Editor of the " Freemason . " Dear Sir and Brother , In justice to myself , I must request your insertion of a few words in reply to a letter from Bro . Palmer , S . D . 73 , which appeared in your impression of the 13 th ult ., and in which I , as Secretary of the Lodge of Union , No . 444 , am charged with want of courtesy and neglect of my duties . The Lodge of Union holds its regular meetings only in the summer ; our last meeting took place on October 4 th , previous to Bro . Palmer's letter to me of October 1 ° ; th beinsr written . The manager of the Courtenav Arms

Hotel , at Starcross , where the lodge meets , neglected to forward the letter to me , and it was not until ( during my absence from home ) , on the attention of our W . M . being drawn to Bro . Palmer ' s letter of the Sth ult . in the Freemason , he made enquiries , that the letter of October 15 th was found , and forwarded to me . I trust that this explanation will enable Bro . Palmer and the Craft generally to acquit me of that inattention to Masonic business and

want of courtesy with which this letter charges me , and of which I must admit that the neglect or carelessness of others may have made me appear guilty . As regards Bro . John Bell , on reference to the records of the lodge , I find that the only brother of that name who has ever belonged to the lodge was initiated in the year 1 S 37 , when the lodge met at Chudleijjh , as a serving brother , to act as waiter , in which capacity he appears to have

occasionally attended the meetings up to May 29 th , 1839 . The last record of his name as belonging to the lodge is in the return of January ist , 1 S 41 , after which his namfe does not appear , except as having received relief from the funds cf the lodge in 1871 . He was at no time a subscribing member of the lodge . —1 am , dear Sir and Brother , yours truly and fraternally , ROBT . BREWIN . P . M ., Prov . G . J . W . Devon , Sec . 444 . Ide , near Exeter , January 6 th .

THE INSTALLATION OF THE DISTRICT GRAND MASTER OF VICTORIA . To the Editor of the " Freemason " Dear Sir and Brother , In the Freemason of Sept . 27 , I notice , is an extract from the Canadian Craftsman , in which certain audacious statements are made relative to the installation of Bro . Sir W . J . Clarke , Bart ., as R . W . District Grand Master of Victoria , E . C . and S . C , last March . I do not know positively where your American contemporary procured his information , but venture a very shrewd guess

Original Correspondence.

that it emanated from this end , viz ., from one of the disappointed and ambitious individual who joined what is now sarcastically styled here the " Grand Lodge of Victoria . " I quote the statement referred to : — "In order to make his inauguration a success , free railway passes , free tickets to the banquet , and / ree tickets to the ball were scattered broadcast . " As " One who knows , " permit me to say the statement

is a base calumny . In the first place , there were no free railway passes . Country brethren from every remote corner ot the colony freely and willingly paid their own travelling fares by ordinary trains—there were no specials ; not to omit a strong deputation from the District Grand Lodge of New South Wales , all the way from Sydney . It is quite true Bro . Sir William Clarke invited 1000 brethren to a banquet in the Melbourne Town Hall ; but the

invitations were not scattered broadcast ; they had to be limited to so many to each of the 100 or so lodges in the colony , and to the visitors from other colonies . As there were over 3000 brethren at the installation , and a third of the number only at the banquet , you can judge for yourself . But the statement , " free tickets to the ball , " is the most scandalous of all . It was a public entertainment ; gentlemen ' s tickets , a guinea ; and ladies , 12 s . 6 d . More than Soo were present ; not a single "free ticket" was given

away ; indeed , the press-men from the different papers , and all of them Freemasons , paid for one , two , and in some instances , three tickets ; and the most damning proof of the untruth of the statement is the substantial fact that nearly £ 200 accrued to the Melbourne Masonic Charities after defraying all expenses . The above facts speak for themselves , and I need only add that the self-styled " Grand Lodge of Victoria " must be in desperate straits , when its members and advocates descend to tricks like those referred to . —Yours fraternally , ONE OF THE COMMITTEE . Melbourne , Nov . 15 th , 1 S 84 .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Masonic Notes and Queries .

47 SJ SIR CHRISTOPHER WREN . Thoresby , according to his diary , saw a good deal of Sir Christopher Wren , knew him well , & c , mentions the curious monuments erected in St . Paul ' s Church for his

"family . Oddly enough , too , Thoresby does not mention him after 1713 , though more than once in London , and in the year Wren died , namely , 1723 . Warburton , the Somerset Herald , a friend apparently of Anderson ' s , was also a great friend of Thoresby ' s . MASONIC STUDENT . 479 J BRO . GOULD'S OPINION ON THE DEGREE

QUESTION . As Bro . Gould ' s opinion has been quoted by Bro . Hughan with reference to the question of the Degrees I think it but right and fair to Bro . Gould to say here that at a very pleasant interview with Bro . Gould a day or two ago , I did not gather at all from him that our esteemed Bro . Hughan was warranted in expressing ,

as the result of Bro . Gould ' s investigations , so decided an opinion on the subject of the Degrees as he ( Bro . Hughan ) publishes in the last number of the Freemason . 1 venture to think that it would be better to leave Bro . Gould to explain his own views on this important subject , rather than seek to antedate Bro .

Gould s original communications , which will duly appear in the forthcoming volume of his history , to be published , I learn from him , in about a month . As 1 understand Bro . Gould's personal and private explanations , there may be a part , but certainly not a complete agreement , with the so-called Monograde theory . A . F . A . W .

4 S 0 J THE BATTLE OF THE GRADES . 1 hardly think it is worth while continuing a discussion in which we are all apparently at cross purposes , and which is now reduced to a sterile logomachy . I deny the right use of grade and degree as words of different meaning . Bro . Hughan affirms it . Where doctors differ ? & c . Bro . Hughan gives to degree , I presume , Masonically alone , the

meaningof a titular and conferred distinction , accompanied with a private and secret ceremony . This , of course , is an arbitrary meaning given to a specific term , without any warrant from philology or derivation , and may be fair enough as a means ot conveying certain ideas of the writer's own , but cannot be critically dealt with or safely argued out . It is a new way truly of explaining old words . Perhaps we

are dealing too much with minutia ; and technicalities , and therefore we had better let the matter rest where it is , as we are not likely to agree . As regards the Scottish minutes , I have not seen them myself , so can say but little about them , but , relying on Bro . D . M . Lyon ' s great work , and Hunter ' s contribution , and Wylie's history , and some

communications to the Freemason , I think that the Monogradal theory is absolutely out of court . But that is only my opinion , based on the evidence alleged ; and , as I do not claim infallibility , having said my say , I make my bow respectfully . Perhaps it was unwise in my venturing to express any opinion at all , as I am a party interested much in the discussion . THIRD DEGREE .

Births, Marriage, And Deaths.

Births , Marriage , and Deaths .

BIRTHS . NOAKES . —On the 20 th ult ., at Stepney , the wife of F . M . Noakes , of a daughter . WATKINS . —On New Year's Day , at Gipsey-hill , the wife of William Watkins , of a daughter .

MARRIAGE . WATERFIKLD—HERSCHEL . —On the 2 nd inst ,, at the parish church , Hawkhurst , William Waterfield , of The Quarries , Exeter , to Matilda Rose , daughter of the late Sir j . F . W . Herschel , Bart ., of Collingwood , Hawkhurst , Kent .

DEATHS . LEE . —On the 3 rd inst ., Richard Patrick , aged 10 years and 6 months ; and on the 7 th inst ., William Henry , aged 9 years , beloved children of the Rev . Richard Lee , Head Master of Christ ' s Hospital , London . LVELL—On the 29 th Oct ., 1884 , at Sydney , New South Wales , aged 58 , George Simpson Lyell .

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TRAVELLER . —A Gentleman ( P . M . No . 22 ) seeks an ENGAGEMENT to represent a good Firm . Best references , & c . Well-known throughout the kingdom , and can sell anything . —A . B . C , Walduck ' s Hotel , Warwick-court , London , W . C .

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THE ANNUAL BALL OF THE .: BUR . DETT-COU . TTS LODGE , No . 1278 , WILL TAKE PLACE AT CANNON STREET HOTEL On THURSDAY , the 20 th JANUARY , 1883 . Tickets may be obtained from the Hon . Sec , Bro . G . WARD VERRY , Wanstead , E .

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PRIPPLEGATE PENSION ^ SOCIETY . THE ANNUAL BALL Will take place at the CANNON STREET HOTEL , On THURSDAY , FEBRUARY 3 th , 1883 , Under the distinguished patronage of the RT . HON . THE LORD MAYOR & LADY MAYORESS , ALD . & SHERIFF WHITEHEAD & SHERIFF PHILLIPS , ALDERMAN SIR H . E . KNIGHT , The UNDER-SHERIFFS , and the principal Inhabitants of the Ward . DOUBLE TICKET , 21 s ., SINGLE TICKET , 12 s . Cd ., to be obtained of the STEWARDS ; of Mr . DEPUTY NIND , Treasurer to the Society j or of the Hon Sec , Mr . U . KNELL , II , Jewin Crescent , E . C .

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NOW_READY. FIFTEENTH ANNUAL ISSUE . THE COSMOPOLITAN MASONIC Calendar&PocMBook For 1883 , Price 2 s . ; Post Free , 2 s . id . ; 320 pages , flexible Roan , Gilt Edges , Tuck or Elastic Band . " The most comprehensive Masonic Book of Reference issued . " The Cosmopolitan Masonic Calendar contains Ml particulars ot all Grand Masonic Bodies in England , Scotland , and Ireland , with complete lists of Craft Lodges , giving dates of Constitution , Royal Arch Chapters , Mark Lodges , Rose Croix Chapters , Knights Templar Preceptories , Antient and Accepted Rite , Red Cross Conclaves , Colleges , The Allied Masonic Degrees , & c . There are also Lists of London Ciui'T AND MARK LODGES , AND ROYAL ARCH CHAPTERS . Those Meeting in the Country are shewn in towns alphabetically arranged . Tables are given shewing the different Lodges and Chapters grouped under their respective Provinces ; and a List of Lodges and Chapters meeting on Foreign Stations . The London Meetings of the Craft , Royal Arch , Mark , Ancient and Accepted Rite , Knights Templar , and Red Cross are noted in the Memorandum space of each day . Meetings of the various Committees of Grand Lodge , Grand Chapter , and Charitable Institutions are also given . Also the Grand Bodies , with their Officers , in France , Belgium , Switzerland , Germany , Spain , Portugal , Italy , the Netherlands , Sweden and Norway , Denmark , Hungary , Greece , Turkey , E gypt , Canada , Quebec , New Brunswick , British Columbia , United States , Hayti , Central and South America , Republic of Liberia , Cuba , & c , giving in most cases also Lists of Lodges , & c . It also contains the Three Charges and Entered Apprentice ' s Song . May be had of all Booksellers , or at GEORGE KENNING ' S Establishments—LONDON-. 16 & 16 a ., GREAaT QUEEN ST ., Opposite Freemasons' Hall ( Office of " Publication ) : h 2 , 3 , 4 , LITTLE BRITAIN , 195 , 196 , & 197 , ALDERSGATE STREET . % LIVERPOOL : 2 , MONUMENT PLACE . MANCHESTER : 47 , BRIDGE STREET . GLASGOW : 9 , WEST HOWARD ST .

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( SEtJiirntto . tal . HIGH-CLASS PRIVATE SCHOOL THEOBALD'S PARK , WALTHAM CROSS , LONDON , N . PRINCIPAL : Rev . J . OSWALD JACKSON , Assisted by Five Masters . Limited number of Gentlemen's Sons ; motherly care for delicate pupils ; individual teaching for backward ones ; playground of six acres . First Class Honours gained at last Cambridge Local Examinations , with Distinction in Mathematics . References kindly permitted to Rev . Dr . Reynolds , Principal of Cheshunt College , Herts . Rev . Charles E . Mayo , M . A ., Nottingham . Sir Thomas Chambers , M . P ., Recorder of London . Richard Toller , Esq ., Solicitor , Leicester . George Kenning , Esq ., Little Britain .

To Correspondents.

To Correspondents .

The following reports , & c , stand over for want of space : CRAFT : — Thames Lodge , 1 S 95 . INSTRUCTION : — Faith Lodge , 141 . Selwyn Lodge , 1901 .

ROVAL ARCH : — Camden Chapter of Improvement . Presentation to Bro . Eustace .

BOOKS , & c , RECEIVED . "Jewish Chronicle , " " Die Bauhiittc , " " Hull Packet , " " New York Daily News , " " Broad Arrow , " " Sunday Times , " " Freemasons' Journal , " " Citizen , " "Court Circular , " " Young Men ' s Christian Association rimes , " " Voice of Masonry , " "Canadian Craftsman , " "Keystone , " " Tricycling Journal , " "Brass Repousse Work , " " Allen ' s Indian Mail . "

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fev - 'Sipp Pfffn $% Q fHnlfiS KllrtSSillaSSMM^a SATURDAY , JANUARY 10 , 1885 .

Original Correspondence.

Original Correspondence .

[ Wcdo not hold ourselves responsible for , or even approving of the opinionsexpressed by ourcorrespondents , but we wish in a spirit of fair play to all to permit—within certain necessary limits—free dififitQcinr . . 1 . ——

_ THE RED APRON LODGES . To the Editor of the " Freemason . " Dear Sir and Brother , I am much obliged to Bro . Kupferschmidt for his account of the circumstances under which the Pilgrim Lodge resigned its privilege of nominating a Grand Steward . When I wrote my article I did not know what had led the lodge to decline to send up a Steward for 1 S 34 , and 1 am much pleased to have had the matter so clearly explained . —Yours fraternally , E . L . HAWKINS .

MASONIC MENDICANCY . To the Editor of the " Freemason . " Dear Sir and Brother , In justice to myself , I must request your insertion of a few words in reply to a letter from Bro . Palmer , S . D . 73 , which appeared in your impression of the 13 th ult ., and in which I , as Secretary of the Lodge of Union , No . 444 , am charged with want of courtesy and neglect of my duties . The Lodge of Union holds its regular meetings only in the summer ; our last meeting took place on October 4 th , previous to Bro . Palmer's letter to me of October 1 ° ; th beinsr written . The manager of the Courtenav Arms

Hotel , at Starcross , where the lodge meets , neglected to forward the letter to me , and it was not until ( during my absence from home ) , on the attention of our W . M . being drawn to Bro . Palmer ' s letter of the Sth ult . in the Freemason , he made enquiries , that the letter of October 15 th was found , and forwarded to me . I trust that this explanation will enable Bro . Palmer and the Craft generally to acquit me of that inattention to Masonic business and

want of courtesy with which this letter charges me , and of which I must admit that the neglect or carelessness of others may have made me appear guilty . As regards Bro . John Bell , on reference to the records of the lodge , I find that the only brother of that name who has ever belonged to the lodge was initiated in the year 1 S 37 , when the lodge met at Chudleijjh , as a serving brother , to act as waiter , in which capacity he appears to have

occasionally attended the meetings up to May 29 th , 1839 . The last record of his name as belonging to the lodge is in the return of January ist , 1 S 41 , after which his namfe does not appear , except as having received relief from the funds cf the lodge in 1871 . He was at no time a subscribing member of the lodge . —1 am , dear Sir and Brother , yours truly and fraternally , ROBT . BREWIN . P . M ., Prov . G . J . W . Devon , Sec . 444 . Ide , near Exeter , January 6 th .

THE INSTALLATION OF THE DISTRICT GRAND MASTER OF VICTORIA . To the Editor of the " Freemason " Dear Sir and Brother , In the Freemason of Sept . 27 , I notice , is an extract from the Canadian Craftsman , in which certain audacious statements are made relative to the installation of Bro . Sir W . J . Clarke , Bart ., as R . W . District Grand Master of Victoria , E . C . and S . C , last March . I do not know positively where your American contemporary procured his information , but venture a very shrewd guess

Original Correspondence.

that it emanated from this end , viz ., from one of the disappointed and ambitious individual who joined what is now sarcastically styled here the " Grand Lodge of Victoria . " I quote the statement referred to : — "In order to make his inauguration a success , free railway passes , free tickets to the banquet , and / ree tickets to the ball were scattered broadcast . " As " One who knows , " permit me to say the statement

is a base calumny . In the first place , there were no free railway passes . Country brethren from every remote corner ot the colony freely and willingly paid their own travelling fares by ordinary trains—there were no specials ; not to omit a strong deputation from the District Grand Lodge of New South Wales , all the way from Sydney . It is quite true Bro . Sir William Clarke invited 1000 brethren to a banquet in the Melbourne Town Hall ; but the

invitations were not scattered broadcast ; they had to be limited to so many to each of the 100 or so lodges in the colony , and to the visitors from other colonies . As there were over 3000 brethren at the installation , and a third of the number only at the banquet , you can judge for yourself . But the statement , " free tickets to the ball , " is the most scandalous of all . It was a public entertainment ; gentlemen ' s tickets , a guinea ; and ladies , 12 s . 6 d . More than Soo were present ; not a single "free ticket" was given

away ; indeed , the press-men from the different papers , and all of them Freemasons , paid for one , two , and in some instances , three tickets ; and the most damning proof of the untruth of the statement is the substantial fact that nearly £ 200 accrued to the Melbourne Masonic Charities after defraying all expenses . The above facts speak for themselves , and I need only add that the self-styled " Grand Lodge of Victoria " must be in desperate straits , when its members and advocates descend to tricks like those referred to . —Yours fraternally , ONE OF THE COMMITTEE . Melbourne , Nov . 15 th , 1 S 84 .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Masonic Notes and Queries .

47 SJ SIR CHRISTOPHER WREN . Thoresby , according to his diary , saw a good deal of Sir Christopher Wren , knew him well , & c , mentions the curious monuments erected in St . Paul ' s Church for his

"family . Oddly enough , too , Thoresby does not mention him after 1713 , though more than once in London , and in the year Wren died , namely , 1723 . Warburton , the Somerset Herald , a friend apparently of Anderson ' s , was also a great friend of Thoresby ' s . MASONIC STUDENT . 479 J BRO . GOULD'S OPINION ON THE DEGREE

QUESTION . As Bro . Gould ' s opinion has been quoted by Bro . Hughan with reference to the question of the Degrees I think it but right and fair to Bro . Gould to say here that at a very pleasant interview with Bro . Gould a day or two ago , I did not gather at all from him that our esteemed Bro . Hughan was warranted in expressing ,

as the result of Bro . Gould ' s investigations , so decided an opinion on the subject of the Degrees as he ( Bro . Hughan ) publishes in the last number of the Freemason . 1 venture to think that it would be better to leave Bro . Gould to explain his own views on this important subject , rather than seek to antedate Bro .

Gould s original communications , which will duly appear in the forthcoming volume of his history , to be published , I learn from him , in about a month . As 1 understand Bro . Gould's personal and private explanations , there may be a part , but certainly not a complete agreement , with the so-called Monograde theory . A . F . A . W .

4 S 0 J THE BATTLE OF THE GRADES . 1 hardly think it is worth while continuing a discussion in which we are all apparently at cross purposes , and which is now reduced to a sterile logomachy . I deny the right use of grade and degree as words of different meaning . Bro . Hughan affirms it . Where doctors differ ? & c . Bro . Hughan gives to degree , I presume , Masonically alone , the

meaningof a titular and conferred distinction , accompanied with a private and secret ceremony . This , of course , is an arbitrary meaning given to a specific term , without any warrant from philology or derivation , and may be fair enough as a means ot conveying certain ideas of the writer's own , but cannot be critically dealt with or safely argued out . It is a new way truly of explaining old words . Perhaps we

are dealing too much with minutia ; and technicalities , and therefore we had better let the matter rest where it is , as we are not likely to agree . As regards the Scottish minutes , I have not seen them myself , so can say but little about them , but , relying on Bro . D . M . Lyon ' s great work , and Hunter ' s contribution , and Wylie's history , and some

communications to the Freemason , I think that the Monogradal theory is absolutely out of court . But that is only my opinion , based on the evidence alleged ; and , as I do not claim infallibility , having said my say , I make my bow respectfully . Perhaps it was unwise in my venturing to express any opinion at all , as I am a party interested much in the discussion . THIRD DEGREE .

Births, Marriage, And Deaths.

Births , Marriage , and Deaths .

BIRTHS . NOAKES . —On the 20 th ult ., at Stepney , the wife of F . M . Noakes , of a daughter . WATKINS . —On New Year's Day , at Gipsey-hill , the wife of William Watkins , of a daughter .

MARRIAGE . WATERFIKLD—HERSCHEL . —On the 2 nd inst ,, at the parish church , Hawkhurst , William Waterfield , of The Quarries , Exeter , to Matilda Rose , daughter of the late Sir j . F . W . Herschel , Bart ., of Collingwood , Hawkhurst , Kent .

DEATHS . LEE . —On the 3 rd inst ., Richard Patrick , aged 10 years and 6 months ; and on the 7 th inst ., William Henry , aged 9 years , beloved children of the Rev . Richard Lee , Head Master of Christ ' s Hospital , London . LVELL—On the 29 th Oct ., 1884 , at Sydney , New South Wales , aged 58 , George Simpson Lyell .

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