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¦ KXHiteBBSa ^ SSSS ^ an ^ HOTMMBSBSH ^ I I . - IKJ ] DR . STUKELY AND MASONRY .

I have been so busy lately that although I have glanced each week at the notes of " Masonic Student" and Bro . Hughan on this subject , I have been quite unable to find time to put pen to paper for the Freemason . I have seen Bro . Luki ^ , however , and he has sent me a few notes on the matter , which I transcribe for the . " Notes and Queries "

corner . With regard to the Constitution MS . alluded to by Stukely , there is no doubt about Bro . Hughan being right as to its identity . Stukely had carefully copied the opening sentences into his diary , and Bro . Lukis some time ago was at the pains to make a facsimile copy , which he presented to the collection of the Eboracum Lodge , and it now hangs in a frame on the walls of the lodge room . As

regards the persons mentioned by Stukely , Bro . Lukis says : " I have ascertained that there were three persons of the name of Collins with whom Stukely was acquainted , ( i ) Anthony Collins , the freethinker ; ( 2 ) Mr . Collins , the artist who painted the portraits of Stukely and Sir Theodore Mayern ; and ( 3 ) Bro . Collins , who was initiated into Freemasonry in 1721 , together with Stukely and Capt .

Rowe . The last is generally styled , by Stukely in his diaries ' Mr . Collector Collins . ' His place of residence I cannot discover . Sometimes he is referred to as being in London , at other times in the neighbourhood of Stamford . It appears that he was very frequently in or near Stamford , also that he was fond of astronomy and a collector of coins . In Stukely ' s memoirs I find that ' Mr .

Collector Collins had a telescope of 15 feet made by Mr . Sisson , ' and that on 'September gth , 1737 , Dr . Stukely and others used this instrument to observe Jupiter and his satellites and belts . ' There is likewise this entry : ' Mr . Collector Collins and Dr . Stukel y went together to sec some Roman antiquities at Durobrivis' [ Castor , NorthantsJ ' on 16 th April , 1739 . ' He was probably a collector of

excise . Capt . Rowe is described as 'the inventor of the diving engine . ' As he was not the inventor of the diving bell 1 presume that he was the inventor of some kind of engine for supplying the diver with air . " It is very probable that in many old MS . diaries , numbers of which exist

amongst family papers and records and m unopened and dust-covered bookcases , would be found allusions to early Freemasonry . Stukely ' s diary is an instance in point , and if it had not come into our brother ' s hands the curious references under discussion would in all probability have remained unnoticed or been lost altogether . T . B . WHYTEHEAD .

120 ] CHARLES SACKVILLE . I have read Bro . "G . B . A . ' s " last note , but though highlyjsuggestive and clearly drawn out in itself , it does not convince me as to the identity between the Charles Sackvilleof 1733 and the Earl of Middlesex , Duke of Dorset . All that "G . B . A . " can say is , that the fact is a possible one , and to some extent a likely one , that they are one

and the same person , but on the whole , I venture to think , the grounds of probability are somewhat hazy . What I cannot understand is , if the Charles Sackville of 1 733 was really Charles Lord Sackville or Charles Earl of Middlesex , why Natter calls him simply " Carolus Sackville . " Horace Walpole no doubt as "G . B . A . " says , alludes to the Earl of Middlesex in correspondence with

Sir Horace Mann , and George Montague , and others , as in fact the great patron and introducer of Italian operas into England , and the chances are , as I said before , that he was at Florence and perhaps in 1733 , and that is all , so tar that any one can say . But it is a very curious and striking fact , explain it as you will , that this " Magister Florentinus" of 1733 cared so tittle about the Order that he

took no notice of it in England , even though his friend and patron Frederick Prince of Wales joined it . It would have been the most reasonable and likely thing in the world , if Lord Middlesex was really a Freemason , to be present on such an occasion , especially as lie formed part of the Prince ' s household . I am on the whole inclined to think ( though other confirmatory evidence may turn up ) that

the " Handbuch " has guessed the truth , when it suggests that this use of Charles Sackville ' s name isa"fraus pia , " and that Natter when he went to St . Petevbuvgh , ( if he went ) , mixed up the names of Carolus Sackville with the fables of that peculiar movement in Freemasonry which confounded all the factsof Masonic History . The " Handbook " says that in 17 G 2 Natter went to Stockholm and St . Petersburgh and

there introduced the Clerical or Strict Observance system , and that he died in St . Peterburgh in 17 G 3 . If the "Handbook" be correct , he was born in Schwabia in 1705 , then studied at Rome , was in the Grand Duke ' s service at Florence first in 1733 , and thence went to the I lague and London , and afterwards to Copenhagen , Stockholm , and St . Petersburgh . His name is said to have

been John Lawrence , and a Lawrence Natter published some works on stone engraving and medals in 1751 and 1761 , and later in London , where he seems to be settled . Are these two different persons ? or is there a mistake ? In the edition of " Hadyn ' s Dictionary of Biography , " edited by Payn , 1 S 70 , Natter is sa'd to have been born in 1705 , and

to have settled in London in 1740 . There is then apparently some error . I am not aware that Natter joined our English Order . There is no trace of this Florentine lodge in our English records , and I am indined on the whole to doubt the story altogether . " G . B . A . " seems to argue that because the " medal" is there it proves his case . But may it not prove too much ? DRYASDUST .

121 J PAPAL BULLS . My knowledge of Greek is unfortunately confined to a very imperfect acquaintance with its alphabet . I have seldom regretted this ignorance more than whilst reading Mr . Grisscll ' s letter in your edition of the 3 rd inst . On the latter part of his communication , referring to the supposed bulls , I feel that I must make some comment . My first note

( 107 ) will show that I was quite aware that not only Governor Pownall , but also Krause and Kloss , had made fruitless search for these documents . But I may be permitted to point out that their absence of success is not a convincing proof that these documents do not exist , still less that they never did exist ; they may have been mislaidor even wilfully destroyed subsequently to the papal excommunication of

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us poor freemasons . But I am willing to concede all that Mr . Grisscll conveys by his words : 1 myself do not believe in the possibility of a bull as generally understood , and should perhaps avoid the use of the term . On referring to O g ilvie ' s dictionary I gather that this word originally signified the seal of any document , that subsequently it meant the document itself , and that , finally , it expresses " an edict of the Pope published or transmitted to the churches over

which he is head , containing some decree , order , or decision . " It is in the second form only that I used it—a document signed and sealed by the Pope , but not necessarily published throughout the world . The Stcinmetzen Constitutions of 1459 were confirmed by all the Kaisers of Germany . Why not also by some of the Popes ? The German Masons of 151 S expressly state that they were , and I fail to see any improbability in this assertion . But such a

confirmation , being a charter applicable only to the Strasburg Lodge , would probably not be transmitted to all the churches , nor would perhaps even a copy be preserved in the Vatican . Such a confirmation of the Brotherbook I think might be possibly found at Strasburg : a mere papal charter regulating the rights and privileges of a guild of Operative Masons ; and I am sorry if any previous words of mine have raised an impression that I inclined to a belief in a papal bull , properly so called . G . WM . SPETH .

Reports Of Masonic Meetings.

REPORTS OF MASONIC MEETINGS .

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TEMPLE LODGE ( No . 101 ) . —The installation meeting of the above old lodge was held on Tuesday last at the Ship and Turtle Tavern , Leadenhall-street , when there were present Bros . H . Brandon White , W . M . ; Dr . Powell , S . W . ; John Robbins , J . W . ; James Bond , P . M ., Treas . ; H . J . Reynolds , P . M ., Sec . ; Edward J . Altman , S . D . ; T . A . Bullock , . J . D . ; E . Lardner , I . G . ; Fradd ,

W . S . Past Masters , W . Beard , W . George , Youle , Hastilow , Thomas , T . E . Taylor . Wynn , Scott , S . Grimbly . Bros . Riddel ! , T . Beard , J . J . Caney , Piggott , W . McNeill . Geo . Tuthill , George Kenning , P . M . 192 and 1 ( 157 , P . G . D . Middx . ; Albeit J . Altman , Lazarus , W . R . McNeill , Miller , J . Brown , Hayivorth , Round , May , Vernon , Stiles , and others .

The minutes of the last meeting were read and confirmed , and the report of the audit meeting was read and approved . Mr . C . Bagley was initiated and Bro . Payne was passed to the Second Degree . The W . M . then installed Bro . Dr . Powell as W . M . for the ensuing year , the whole of the initiation , passing , and installation ceremonies being

performed in a most able and efficient manner by Bro . H . Brandon White , the newly - installed W . M . Bro . Dr . Powell then invested his officers as follows : Bros . H . Brandon White , I . P . M . ; John Robbins , S . W . ; Edward J . Altman , J . W . ; James Bond , P . M ., Treas . ( for the 16 th time ); James Reynolds , P . M ., Sec ; H . J . Bullock , S . D . ; E . Lardner , J . D . ; J . Round , I . G . ; and Fradd ,

P . M ., W . S . The brethren then retired to the banqueting hall , where a most sumptuous repast awaited them . The W . M . proposed the usual toasts . A jewel was presented to the I . P . M .

FAITH LODGE ( No . 141 ) . —A meeting of this old lodge was held at Anderton ' s Hotel , Fleet-street , on the 30 th ult . Among those in attendance were Bros . T . C . Walls , P . P . G . S . B . Middx ., W . M . ; Clark , S . W . ; Jordan , J . W . ; Carter , P . M ., Treasurer ; W . Stuart , P . M ., Secretary ; Fromholtz , S . D . ; Hudson , acting I . G . ; Howe , W . S . ; Dipplc , D . C ; McMullen , A . W . S . ; Green ,

P . M . ; C . Dairy , P . M . ; Morrison , P . M . ; Cobham , P . M ., and others . Among the visitors were Bros . Glass , W . M . 212 ; H . Higgins , W . M . 1381 ; Hagerthy , S . D . 1741 ; Phillips , 15 S 0 ; Williams , 1669 ; and W . Pinto , La Serera , Alexandria . The minutes of the previous meeting having been read and confirmed , Bro . C . Dairy gave a notice of motion " That the sum of ten guineas be voted from the lodge

funds and placed upon the list of Bro . Wadcoat as a Steward representing No . 141 at the forthcoming festival of the Boys' School . " Several minor matters having been disposed of the lodge was formally closed and the brethren adjourned to the banquet . Upon the removal of the cloth the customary toasts followed . "The Health of the W . M . " was warmly proposed by

Bro . Morrison , P . M . The Worshipful Master having responded then gave " The Visitors , " coupled with the names of Bros . Glass and Pinto , who duly acknowledged the compliment . The toast of "The Past Masters" was replied to by Bros . Dairy and Morrison .

" The Treasurer and Secretary " followed , and was responded to by Bro . Stuart , P . M . " The Officers " came next in order , and received due justice from Bros . Clark , Fromholtz , McMullen , and others . The proceedings shortly afterwards terminated .

LION AND LAMB LODGE ( No . £ 92 ) . — A meeting of . this lodge was held on the 1 st inst . at the Cannon-street Hot ., when there were present Bros . J . Gicsman Chillingworth , W . M . ; H . A . Pratt , S . W . ; H . Stevenson , P . M ., J . W . ; If . Leggc , P . M ., Treas . ; G . Abbott , P . M ., Sec ; Barclay Perkins , S . D . ; W . Darnell , I . G . ; Thomas Cohu , P . M ., Stwd . ; W . Dyer , Tyler ; Lucas , I . P . M . ;

Rickwood , P . M . ; Medwin , P . M . ; Fisher , Williams , Dowland , Fowler , Hamblin , Cobb , and Smith . Visitors : Bros . Flaxman Spurrell , 1793 , P . P . G . W . Kent ; Sparrow , S . VV . 1 743 ; and Brewster , 52 S . The minutes of the previous meeting were read and confirmed . Bro . Pratt , S . W . was unanimously elected to fill

the office of W . M . for the ensuing vcar , and Bro . Legge was also unanimously re-elected as Treasurer . The Audit Committee was then appointed , after which Mr . VV . T . Tilbury , who had been previously balloted for , was regularly initiated into Freemasonry . A grant of 10 guineas from the funds of the lodge was made to a distressed brother , to which was added a subscription among the brethren present

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which realised 10 ' guineas , and the list was ordered to remain open for the next meeting ( installation ) . There being no further business the lodge was closed in due form and the brethren adjourned to banquet . LANGTHORNE LODGE ( No . 1421 ) . —The anniversary festival of the above flourishing lodge was celebrated on Thursday ; 25 th ult ., at the Swan Hotel ,

btrattord , E . Lodge was opened at 4 . 30 by Bro . B . Cundick , P . M ., in the absence of Bro . R . W . Biggs , W . M ., who was supported by the following officers and brethren : A . Meyers , S . W . and W . M . elect ; J . Hunt , J . W . ; ' R \ , - Tay ' » P - - » Treas . ; G . Ward Verry , P . M ., " Sec . ; P . Ms . B . Cundick , G . F . Dix , H . N . Taylor , 1 . G . Stevens , J . Bullwinklc , S . D . ; W . Buckle , J . D . ; Dr . T . Loanc

M . C . ; C . Hopson , W . S ., Org . ; and A . Walkley , Tyler . Also Bros . J . D . Whitehead , R . Mills , T . Mercer , A . Ralph , W . March , R . Hirst , S . Darley , C . H . Bardouleau , J . Wilks , F . England , A . Walter , C . Mansfield , R . Middleton . Visitors : H . Conningham , I . G . 1625 ; K . Smith , Org . 1 S 29 ; A . Symes , W . S . 554 ; J . G . Twinn , I . G . 130 G ; W . F . Thorpe , 1614 ; W . Freeman , W . M .

147 ; H . Taplay , P . M . 107 G ; J . S . Fraser , W . M . 174 ; j . Boulton , W . M . 1056 ; R . W . " Hunter , 16 S 5 ; T . D . Birch , 1365 ; J- Slade , 16 S 5 ; J . Brooks , 51 ; J . M . Knight , S . VV . 1 S 05 ; and G . H . Stephens , J . W . 1 G 23 , 13 S 2 , SgS ( Freemason ) . After the transaction of the usual routine business , the Auditors' report was brought up and adopted . Lodge was advanced , and Bro . C . A . Ralph , a candidate for the

Third Degree , was raised by Bro . Cundick in a masterly manner . The next business , the principal feature of the evening , was then proceeded with . Bro . John G . Stevens , P . M ., who in the Langthorne and several other prominent East End lodges has for years past held the freehold of D . C . on installation nights , presented Bro . Albert Meyers , S . W ., W . M . elect , to Bro . Benjamin Cundick , P . M ., who had most kindly undertaken the arduous duties of Installtn" - Master .

A Board of Installed Masters having been formed , Bro . Meyers was inducted into the chair of K . S . in ancient form . The W . M . was next saluted by the brethren in the several Degrees , and thereafter appointed and invested his officers as follows : Bros . J . Hunt , S . W . ; A . Bullwinkle , J . W . ; T . S . Taylor , P . M ., Treas . ( re-appointed ); G . VV . Verry , P . M ., Sec . ( re-appointed ); A . Buckle , S . D . ; Dr . T .

Loane , J . D . ; C . Hopson , I . G . ; and W . March , M . C . The concluding portion of theceremony—the delivering of the three grand charges—was next dealt with , Bro . Cundick , P . M ., investing each with a fulness of meaning and point , and was heartily applauded on resuming his seat amongst the Past Masters . Several other items of business being disposed of the

lodge was closed and the brethren adjourned to an adjoining dining saloon , where a capital banquet was very well served by Host Watkins ( son of the late esteemed Bro . S . Watkins ) , which was thoroughly enjoyed and gave entire satisfaction to the brethren . At the conclusion of the banquet the W . M ., Bro . A . Meyers , gave the usual loyal and Craft toasts , Bro . C . Hopson supplying the musical

arrangements . Bro . Biggs , I . P . M ., gave "The Health of the W . M ., Bro . Meyers , ' who suitably responded . The other toasts given were "The Visitors , " "The Past Masters" ( Bro . Cundick , P . M ., replying ) , "The Benevolent Institutions" ( powerfully responded to by Bro . J . G . Stevens , P . M . ) , and " The Officers . " These were all well received and an enjoyable evening was passed .

ALL SAINTS LODGE ( No . 171 ( 5 ) . —A meeting of this lodge was held on Friday evening , the 2 nd inst ., Bro . Joseph House , W . M ., presiding , supported by the following officers and brethren : Bros . T . L . Kennett , S . W . ; H . J . Hancock , J . W . ; VV . G . Wilshaw , Sec . : VV . I .

Rundell , b . D . ; E . Witherstone , J . D . ; J . Grout , Org . ; J . C . Pittam , I . G . ; J . Kemp Coleman , P . M . ; VV . C . Young , I . P . M . ; Leonard Potts , P . M . ; T . Morgan , J . Robinson , E . C . Knowles , T . Johnson , G . Harrison , Tyler ; and Bros . T . Usherwood , R . [ Logan , and E . G . Johnson , visitors .

The lodge having been opened in due form the minutes of the last regular meeting and of the subsequent emergency meeting were read and confirmed . Bro . Morgan was then passed to the Second Degree , the ancient charge and the lecture on the tracing board being admirably rendered hy the W . M . _ The Worshipful Master then susrirested the desirability of

forming a Helping or Benevolent Fund . Since he had attended the meetings of the Lodge of Benevolence as the W . M . of this lodge he had had his attention called to the large number of cases where relief was an ucgent necessity , and in eloquent terms appealed to the sympathy and support of the brethren to such a fund as he proposed starting ;

and on the motion of Bro . Leonard Potts , P . M ., seconded by Bro . W . C . Young , I . P . M ., the matter was rcfered to a committee , consisting of the W . M ., Past Masters , and officers for consideration and report . Other business of a routine character having been transacted the lodge was adjourned .

KAISAR-I-HIND LODGE ( No . 1734 ) . —The first of the four annual meetings of this lodge was held at the Cafe Royal , Regent-street , on the 1 st inst ., under the presidency of Bro . R . A . Bayford , who was installed W . M . in November last . The minutes of the previous meeting having been read and confirmed , the ballot was taken on behalf of Mr . Chas . Haig , No . 200 , as a joining member , and for the election and initiation of Mr . H . R . P .

Schooles , Attorney-General for British Honduras , Mr . Hy-Pritchard , and Mr . Clement Linwood Strong , all the candi dates having been duly elected . The W . M . ' next proceeded in a very impressive manner with the ceremony of raising Bros . Capt . Wyatt , Win . Turnor , Arthur Reginald Rudall , and Richard Ffynes Barrett-Lennard , and subsequently initiated Mr . Schooles into the mysteries and privileges ofi the Craft .

'The lodge was then closed and the brethren adjournedfrom labour to refreshment . After the removal of the cloththe usual loyal and Masonic toasts followed , and received due response . The W . M . and Bros . Haig , and Dibdirt added greatly to the pleasure and conviviality of the meetb

ing y their excellent songs , and a pleasant and fraternal evening was ultimately brought to a conclusion with the Tyler ' s toast . The members present were Bros . R . R . Bayford , W . M ' . ; . Col . G . F . Blake , P . M . ; T . Barrett-Lennard , P . M . ;