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Answers To The Memorial Of The Oldge Of Glasgow St. John,

ANSWERS TO THE MEMORIAL OF THE OLDGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN ,

No . 3 bis . ( Vide Memorial at page 662 of THE FREEMASON , Dec . ijt / i , 1870 J 151 , West Nile-street , Glasgow , December 14 th , 1870 .

To the Most Worshipful the Grand Master Mason of Scotland , the Right Worshipful Depute and Substitute Grand Masters , the R . IV . Senior and Junior Grand Wardens , and the Remanent Officebearers and Members of the Grand Lodge of Freemasons of Scotland .

DEAR BRETHREN , —At the meeting of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , held in the Freemasons' Hall , Edinburgh , upon the 7 th day of November , 1870 , a document was read by Bro . John Baird , R . W . M . No . 3 bis , purporting to be a memorial or petition sent in by the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3

bis , anent the carrying of the working tools at Masonic processions in the Glasgow province . After this document had been read and presented , I took the liberty to remark to the effect that I ( although a member of No . 3 bis ) knew nothing about this document , and would consider myself

disgraced were my name attached to it ; and as for the Malcolm Charter , to which allusion was made in it , I considered it to be nothing else than a disgraceful forgery . After this-, a motion was proposed by Bro . William Officer , Acting Junior Grand Wardenand unanimously agreed to , that this

, memorial from the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3 bis , should lie upon the table until next quarterly communication , so as to afford time for examination into its contents . Since then I have received from Bro . John Lawrie . Grand Clerk , a " certified true copy " of this memorial , as also , at

the same time , a letter from him dated 8 th December , 1870 , requiring me to lodge with him , within fourteen days , mv reasons for making the statements I made regarding it at the quarterly communication on 7 th November , 1870 . Accordingly , in answer to this request , I respectfully beg leave to present the following remarks : —

Firstly . I beg leave to observe that , although this document was presented to Grand Lodge upon the 7 th day of November , 1870 , in name of the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3 bis , yet said document was not read in , or adopted by , the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3 bis , until the

15 th November , 1870 , or eight days after its presentation ! At which meeting I was present , and , as a member of No . 3 bis , condemned it , and likewise reiterated my opinion that the " Malcolm Charter " they were founding upon was a forgery . Secondly . Said document or memorial is , in my

opinion , a very imperfect one , and contains many mistakes , as I shall proceed to show . Consequently , if such be the case , it would be anything but complimentary to any person to have his name attached to it . In proof of which I proceed to take up the " First " head of this memorial , which states

that " the Lodge of Glasgow St . John ( No . 3 bis ) had , by charter dated 1157 , conferred upon them and their predecessors the whole rights and privileges of Masonry within the city of Glasgow , " & c . Now , the first question here evidently is : Is this pretended " charter dated 1157 " genuine ? To

which I answer , No ' . Further , before going into the proof of its non-genuineness , allow me to remind the Right Worshipful Office-bearers of the Grand Lodge that when this St . John ' s Lodge , in 1849-50 , wished to join the Grand Lodge of Scotland , they then brought up this same pretended charter , and

held it forth as being granted to them by Malcolm 3 rd , Canmore , King of Scots , in 1057 ; but upon examination thereof the Grand Lodge of Scotland at that time very justly decidedly refused to acknowledge said document as a charterof Malcolm

the Third ' s , or of date 1057 , and gave them their position of No . 3 bis upon the 1628 Roslin Charter . Now , however , in this case it will be observed that the date given is 1157 , which takes 100 years off its pretended age , and brings it down to the time of Malcolm IV .

However , whether the date given out be 1051 , 1057 , or 1157 , all , in my opinion , are equally false , for , upon examining the document itself , we find it saying , My true age is much neater 1 S 57 than any of the foregoing dates—as I now proceed to shew : First . The styles of the writing , and also of the Latin , are quite modern , as also the character of

its contents comparatively so ; while , in some points , it reminds me of the Glasgow Burgh Charter , 1175 , as given in McUre ' s ( 1736 ) "History of Glasgow . " Second . The idea of an incorporation of Masons in Glasgow receiving a Royal Charter from either Malcolm III . or IV . is absurd and contrary to all reliable Scottish history .

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Third . Even Glasgow itself did not receive its charter of erection as a Bishop ' s Burgh until the reign of William the Lion , and about A . D . 1175 . Fourth . In tracing back the existence of this document as far as possible , I have been unable as yet to discover any evidence of its existence before

the year 1806 , or nearly sixty-five years ago . At this time a Masonic procession was to take place in Glasgow in honour of the laying of the foundation-stone of the Nelson ' s monument on Glasgow Green , and at which procession the members of the Glasgow Freemen Operative St . John ' s Lodge ,

although not then in connection with the Grand Lodge of Scotland , not only wished to be present , but also to take precedence . The Glasgow St . Mungo Lodge , which was then the senior lodge of the province on the Grand Lodge roll , however , objected to this , as per

their minutes of that date ( a copy of which appears at page 2 ° 7 , & c , of the Freemasons' Maga zine for Oct . 15 th , 1 S 70 ) , where they rest upon the Laws and Regulations of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , especially appendix iii ., chap , xii ., as given at page 324 of Alexander Lawrie ' s " History of

Freemasonry ,- " published in 1 S 04 , and resting upon which they refused to acknowledge the St . John ' s Lodge , and call this Malcolm document , which was so opportunely brought foi ward or "discovered' ' then , a " pretended charter ; " and in refusing to allow the St . John ' s Lodge to interfere with them ,

they are backed up by Bro . William Guthrie , Grand Secretary , and also by Sir John Stuart of Allanbank , the Provincial Grand Master , who says , '' On no account can or will I permit any lodge to appear in this procession that does not hold of the Grand Lodge of Scotland . "

All this shows how mistaken are the statements in this St . John ' s memorial , which say , " those privileges were never called in question , " or , where it states that the St . John ' s Lodge " were assigned by virtue of their position precedence in rank over all the daughter lodges of Scotland . " For all , that I

am aware , they got in 1 S 06 was that St . John Stuart asked for " five or six handsome figures of operatives having black cloathes to carry my proper ensigns ; " and it so happened that the operatives , having " handsome figures " and " black cloathes , " so chosen , belonged to St . John ' s Lodge , which was

so far a credit to that body ; but that might have been only an accident so far , and it was a concession of Sir John Stuart to take them , as he entirely refuses to acknowledge or have any intercourse with the Glasgow St . John ' s Lodge as such ; for the Grand Lodge of Scotland , as an independent

body , and as the head of Speculative Freemasonry in Scotland , is not bound to recognise the pretensions of any operative or other lodge out of its pale , or even within it , any further than it may rightly consider said pretensions to be just and reasonable . The pretensions of operative Masons are one thing ,

the prerogative and constitution of the Grand Lodge of Scotland another . Further , even the minutes pf the Lodge St . John themselves prove the mistake of saying " those privileges were never called in question , " for in ¦ 833 , when the foundation-stone of the

jamauiastreet Bridge at Glasgow was to be laid , these socalled privileges of theirs were disallowed ; however , great agitation was got up , and considerable pressure put upon the Lord Provost * and Dr . Cleland , Superintendent of Public Works , which latter had been imposed upon by the pretended Malcolm

Charter , and had even published a so-called translation of it in his " Annals of Glasgow , " as per vol . ii ., page 485 . But whether the English " translation , " or the pseudo " old monkish Latin " be the older , I cannot at present affirm . However , no doubt by appealing to this precious document they

carried their point , to a certain extent at least , not , as I consider , because of any just and ( awful right they had to interfere with the proceedings of the Grand Lodge of Scotland then ; but because local influence backed up , as it seems to me , by falsehood , fraud , and imposition , mixed with , or

working upon , ignorance , were for the time triumphant . Then be it observed that all the occasions mentioned in this memorial from the St . John ' s Lodge as the precedents , where some of its members have carried the tools in Masonic processions in Glasgow , are after A . D . 1806 , as the oldest date

there given is ibio . Consequently , seeing that this is the case , and that it was the St . John ' s Ledge itself which brought forward or " discovered " this pretended Malcolm Charter in 1 S 06 to further its pretentions then , and has ever since upheld it as a

great foundation of those pretensions , it follows that if said pretended charter be false , a- ; I consider it is , all these pretensions based upon it fall at once to the ground , and the Lodge of Glasgow St . John as such , and as a lodge holding of the Grand Lodge of Scotland has no more right and

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privilege over any of the other lodges under the sway of Grand Lodge than its position of No . 3 bis gives it , or the laws of Grand Lodge allow it . Another point I may here mention is that although when St . John ' s joined the Grand Lodge of Scotland , about twenty years ago , it got the high

position of No . 3 bis , yet founding upon this pretended Malcolm Charter , they have been again and again hinting at demanding a higher position on the Grand Lodge roll ; in fact , this was made the foundation of a sort of standing grievance , by which , as it appears to me , a feeling was kept up the members of

among No . 3 bis as if they had not got justice at the hands of Grand Lodge as per , inter alia , a motion by Bro . D . Hannay , Senior Warden , alluded to in a St . John ' s Lodge minute , of date 4 th August , 1 S 6 3 : "That steps ' be taken to have this lodge placed in its proper position on

the roll of the Grand Lodge of Scotland ; " and , again , at the December festival of St . John ' s Lodge , 1807 , which was styled their " 810 th Anniversary !' and at which Bro . Captain Speirs , of Eldcrslie , M . P ., the newly-elected Prov . G . M . for Glasgow , was present , and acted as Chairman ( vide report of

proceedings as given in Freemason's Magazine for January nth , 1868 ) , we find him saying , ' upon the authority of this pretended Malcolm Charter : " That although their lodge ranked y / z in the Grand Lodge of Scotland , it was not in its proper place , " and so on . Then , later still , we find Bro . Thomas M'Guffie

( the same , I suppose , who is mentioned in the memorial as carrying the plate ) , asserting in the Glasgow Herald , of date June 17 th , 1870 ( and as we also see by Freemason's Magazine , of date July 9 lh , 1 S 70 ) , that " The Glasgow Freemen Operative St . John ' s Lodge is the senior lodge in Scotland ,

even to the Grand Lodge ; and had our predecessors in office done tln-ir duty , every lodge in Scotland would have required to get a charter from them , and the St . John ' s would now be in the receipt of a large income , which I suppose the Grand Lodge now enjoys I" Se we perceive that

founding upon Malcolm's pretended charter the members of Glasgow St . John ' s Lodge would not only rise above all the other lodges in Scotland , but would fain soar above the Grand Lodge itself . However , the statements made by Bro . Captain Speirs , P . G . M ., at the so-called "gioth

Anniversary " of St . John ' s Lodge in December , 1867 , led to an examination into the authenticity of this pretended Macolm Charter , and in which examination circumstances led 111 c to take an active part , and not only so , but under these circumstances I was bound in honour as a gentleman to make the result

of said examination known , whatever that result was , which I did ; and although by doing so I felt that many of my brethren in the lodge might be displeased , I could not help that , but simply strove to act upon the square , and to do what I felt to be

my duly , be the result what it might . Therefore , I not only made a personal examination of the document myself , but have also striven to get it examined by , or to learn the opinions of some of the best authorities in the country , which opinions I now proceed to give : —

Dr . Anderson , in his " Memoirs of the House of Hamilton , says : " Apart from other considerations the writing is not above 200 or 300 years old . " Professor Cosmo Inncs , V . P . R . S . E ., S . A . S . Scot ., & c , whose high standing and skill as a chartologist are well known , as witness his 'cting as editor to

that splendid new work , '" The National Manuscripts of Scotland , " and many other authoritative and first-class works , and who saw it in 1 S 68 , said it was a forgery executed within the last 150 years , or taking plenty of time , within 200 at the utmost . Further , it was made up of pieces taken out of

different charters , and stuck together . Even before he saw it , and from a description of it which I sent him , he said it was a forgery ; and when I asked him how he knew that before he saw it , he very kindly and courteously answered , " Our first Corporate Charters were to burghs , and not till long

after came those to the gilds and corporations within and under burghs ; but we have no charters to burghs till William the Lion ( 1165-1214 ) . " So you see it did not require much sagacity to stamp the charter of Malcolm , full of the phraseology and the minute distinctions of a much later

day , as a forgery . The late Dr . G . A . Walker Arnotr , the distinguished Professor of Botany in the University of Glasgow , and who long tool . " an active interest in Masonry , as well as holdirg several high offices therein , called ibis pretended . barter a forgery , and shortly before his death wrote me as follows : —

" 2311 ! May , tSOS . — On getting out of bed this forenoon (& c ) , 1 read the Glasgow Herald , and in it what I presume is a letter from you , signed ' W . P . Ii / I congratulate you on the frank and open manner in which you state your conclusions ; and were such to be done in other cases , many discourteous dissensions would cense , " & c . ( To bt continued . )

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Answers To The Memorial Of The Oldge Of Glasgow St. John,

ANSWERS TO THE MEMORIAL OF THE OLDGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN ,

No . 3 bis . ( Vide Memorial at page 662 of THE FREEMASON , Dec . ijt / i , 1870 J 151 , West Nile-street , Glasgow , December 14 th , 1870 .

To the Most Worshipful the Grand Master Mason of Scotland , the Right Worshipful Depute and Substitute Grand Masters , the R . IV . Senior and Junior Grand Wardens , and the Remanent Officebearers and Members of the Grand Lodge of Freemasons of Scotland .

DEAR BRETHREN , —At the meeting of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , held in the Freemasons' Hall , Edinburgh , upon the 7 th day of November , 1870 , a document was read by Bro . John Baird , R . W . M . No . 3 bis , purporting to be a memorial or petition sent in by the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3

bis , anent the carrying of the working tools at Masonic processions in the Glasgow province . After this document had been read and presented , I took the liberty to remark to the effect that I ( although a member of No . 3 bis ) knew nothing about this document , and would consider myself

disgraced were my name attached to it ; and as for the Malcolm Charter , to which allusion was made in it , I considered it to be nothing else than a disgraceful forgery . After this-, a motion was proposed by Bro . William Officer , Acting Junior Grand Wardenand unanimously agreed to , that this

, memorial from the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3 bis , should lie upon the table until next quarterly communication , so as to afford time for examination into its contents . Since then I have received from Bro . John Lawrie . Grand Clerk , a " certified true copy " of this memorial , as also , at

the same time , a letter from him dated 8 th December , 1870 , requiring me to lodge with him , within fourteen days , mv reasons for making the statements I made regarding it at the quarterly communication on 7 th November , 1870 . Accordingly , in answer to this request , I respectfully beg leave to present the following remarks : —

Firstly . I beg leave to observe that , although this document was presented to Grand Lodge upon the 7 th day of November , 1870 , in name of the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3 bis , yet said document was not read in , or adopted by , the Lodge of Glasgow St . John , No . 3 bis , until the

15 th November , 1870 , or eight days after its presentation ! At which meeting I was present , and , as a member of No . 3 bis , condemned it , and likewise reiterated my opinion that the " Malcolm Charter " they were founding upon was a forgery . Secondly . Said document or memorial is , in my

opinion , a very imperfect one , and contains many mistakes , as I shall proceed to show . Consequently , if such be the case , it would be anything but complimentary to any person to have his name attached to it . In proof of which I proceed to take up the " First " head of this memorial , which states

that " the Lodge of Glasgow St . John ( No . 3 bis ) had , by charter dated 1157 , conferred upon them and their predecessors the whole rights and privileges of Masonry within the city of Glasgow , " & c . Now , the first question here evidently is : Is this pretended " charter dated 1157 " genuine ? To

which I answer , No ' . Further , before going into the proof of its non-genuineness , allow me to remind the Right Worshipful Office-bearers of the Grand Lodge that when this St . John ' s Lodge , in 1849-50 , wished to join the Grand Lodge of Scotland , they then brought up this same pretended charter , and

held it forth as being granted to them by Malcolm 3 rd , Canmore , King of Scots , in 1057 ; but upon examination thereof the Grand Lodge of Scotland at that time very justly decidedly refused to acknowledge said document as a charterof Malcolm

the Third ' s , or of date 1057 , and gave them their position of No . 3 bis upon the 1628 Roslin Charter . Now , however , in this case it will be observed that the date given is 1157 , which takes 100 years off its pretended age , and brings it down to the time of Malcolm IV .

However , whether the date given out be 1051 , 1057 , or 1157 , all , in my opinion , are equally false , for , upon examining the document itself , we find it saying , My true age is much neater 1 S 57 than any of the foregoing dates—as I now proceed to shew : First . The styles of the writing , and also of the Latin , are quite modern , as also the character of

its contents comparatively so ; while , in some points , it reminds me of the Glasgow Burgh Charter , 1175 , as given in McUre ' s ( 1736 ) "History of Glasgow . " Second . The idea of an incorporation of Masons in Glasgow receiving a Royal Charter from either Malcolm III . or IV . is absurd and contrary to all reliable Scottish history .

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Third . Even Glasgow itself did not receive its charter of erection as a Bishop ' s Burgh until the reign of William the Lion , and about A . D . 1175 . Fourth . In tracing back the existence of this document as far as possible , I have been unable as yet to discover any evidence of its existence before

the year 1806 , or nearly sixty-five years ago . At this time a Masonic procession was to take place in Glasgow in honour of the laying of the foundation-stone of the Nelson ' s monument on Glasgow Green , and at which procession the members of the Glasgow Freemen Operative St . John ' s Lodge ,

although not then in connection with the Grand Lodge of Scotland , not only wished to be present , but also to take precedence . The Glasgow St . Mungo Lodge , which was then the senior lodge of the province on the Grand Lodge roll , however , objected to this , as per

their minutes of that date ( a copy of which appears at page 2 ° 7 , & c , of the Freemasons' Maga zine for Oct . 15 th , 1 S 70 ) , where they rest upon the Laws and Regulations of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , especially appendix iii ., chap , xii ., as given at page 324 of Alexander Lawrie ' s " History of

Freemasonry ,- " published in 1 S 04 , and resting upon which they refused to acknowledge the St . John ' s Lodge , and call this Malcolm document , which was so opportunely brought foi ward or "discovered' ' then , a " pretended charter ; " and in refusing to allow the St . John ' s Lodge to interfere with them ,

they are backed up by Bro . William Guthrie , Grand Secretary , and also by Sir John Stuart of Allanbank , the Provincial Grand Master , who says , '' On no account can or will I permit any lodge to appear in this procession that does not hold of the Grand Lodge of Scotland . "

All this shows how mistaken are the statements in this St . John ' s memorial , which say , " those privileges were never called in question , " or , where it states that the St . John ' s Lodge " were assigned by virtue of their position precedence in rank over all the daughter lodges of Scotland . " For all , that I

am aware , they got in 1 S 06 was that St . John Stuart asked for " five or six handsome figures of operatives having black cloathes to carry my proper ensigns ; " and it so happened that the operatives , having " handsome figures " and " black cloathes , " so chosen , belonged to St . John ' s Lodge , which was

so far a credit to that body ; but that might have been only an accident so far , and it was a concession of Sir John Stuart to take them , as he entirely refuses to acknowledge or have any intercourse with the Glasgow St . John ' s Lodge as such ; for the Grand Lodge of Scotland , as an independent

body , and as the head of Speculative Freemasonry in Scotland , is not bound to recognise the pretensions of any operative or other lodge out of its pale , or even within it , any further than it may rightly consider said pretensions to be just and reasonable . The pretensions of operative Masons are one thing ,

the prerogative and constitution of the Grand Lodge of Scotland another . Further , even the minutes pf the Lodge St . John themselves prove the mistake of saying " those privileges were never called in question , " for in ¦ 833 , when the foundation-stone of the

jamauiastreet Bridge at Glasgow was to be laid , these socalled privileges of theirs were disallowed ; however , great agitation was got up , and considerable pressure put upon the Lord Provost * and Dr . Cleland , Superintendent of Public Works , which latter had been imposed upon by the pretended Malcolm

Charter , and had even published a so-called translation of it in his " Annals of Glasgow , " as per vol . ii ., page 485 . But whether the English " translation , " or the pseudo " old monkish Latin " be the older , I cannot at present affirm . However , no doubt by appealing to this precious document they

carried their point , to a certain extent at least , not , as I consider , because of any just and ( awful right they had to interfere with the proceedings of the Grand Lodge of Scotland then ; but because local influence backed up , as it seems to me , by falsehood , fraud , and imposition , mixed with , or

working upon , ignorance , were for the time triumphant . Then be it observed that all the occasions mentioned in this memorial from the St . John ' s Lodge as the precedents , where some of its members have carried the tools in Masonic processions in Glasgow , are after A . D . 1806 , as the oldest date

there given is ibio . Consequently , seeing that this is the case , and that it was the St . John ' s Ledge itself which brought forward or " discovered " this pretended Malcolm Charter in 1 S 06 to further its pretentions then , and has ever since upheld it as a

great foundation of those pretensions , it follows that if said pretended charter be false , a- ; I consider it is , all these pretensions based upon it fall at once to the ground , and the Lodge of Glasgow St . John as such , and as a lodge holding of the Grand Lodge of Scotland has no more right and

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privilege over any of the other lodges under the sway of Grand Lodge than its position of No . 3 bis gives it , or the laws of Grand Lodge allow it . Another point I may here mention is that although when St . John ' s joined the Grand Lodge of Scotland , about twenty years ago , it got the high

position of No . 3 bis , yet founding upon this pretended Malcolm Charter , they have been again and again hinting at demanding a higher position on the Grand Lodge roll ; in fact , this was made the foundation of a sort of standing grievance , by which , as it appears to me , a feeling was kept up the members of

among No . 3 bis as if they had not got justice at the hands of Grand Lodge as per , inter alia , a motion by Bro . D . Hannay , Senior Warden , alluded to in a St . John ' s Lodge minute , of date 4 th August , 1 S 6 3 : "That steps ' be taken to have this lodge placed in its proper position on

the roll of the Grand Lodge of Scotland ; " and , again , at the December festival of St . John ' s Lodge , 1807 , which was styled their " 810 th Anniversary !' and at which Bro . Captain Speirs , of Eldcrslie , M . P ., the newly-elected Prov . G . M . for Glasgow , was present , and acted as Chairman ( vide report of

proceedings as given in Freemason's Magazine for January nth , 1868 ) , we find him saying , ' upon the authority of this pretended Malcolm Charter : " That although their lodge ranked y / z in the Grand Lodge of Scotland , it was not in its proper place , " and so on . Then , later still , we find Bro . Thomas M'Guffie

( the same , I suppose , who is mentioned in the memorial as carrying the plate ) , asserting in the Glasgow Herald , of date June 17 th , 1870 ( and as we also see by Freemason's Magazine , of date July 9 lh , 1 S 70 ) , that " The Glasgow Freemen Operative St . John ' s Lodge is the senior lodge in Scotland ,

even to the Grand Lodge ; and had our predecessors in office done tln-ir duty , every lodge in Scotland would have required to get a charter from them , and the St . John ' s would now be in the receipt of a large income , which I suppose the Grand Lodge now enjoys I" Se we perceive that

founding upon Malcolm's pretended charter the members of Glasgow St . John ' s Lodge would not only rise above all the other lodges in Scotland , but would fain soar above the Grand Lodge itself . However , the statements made by Bro . Captain Speirs , P . G . M ., at the so-called "gioth

Anniversary " of St . John ' s Lodge in December , 1867 , led to an examination into the authenticity of this pretended Macolm Charter , and in which examination circumstances led 111 c to take an active part , and not only so , but under these circumstances I was bound in honour as a gentleman to make the result

of said examination known , whatever that result was , which I did ; and although by doing so I felt that many of my brethren in the lodge might be displeased , I could not help that , but simply strove to act upon the square , and to do what I felt to be

my duly , be the result what it might . Therefore , I not only made a personal examination of the document myself , but have also striven to get it examined by , or to learn the opinions of some of the best authorities in the country , which opinions I now proceed to give : —

Dr . Anderson , in his " Memoirs of the House of Hamilton , says : " Apart from other considerations the writing is not above 200 or 300 years old . " Professor Cosmo Inncs , V . P . R . S . E ., S . A . S . Scot ., & c , whose high standing and skill as a chartologist are well known , as witness his 'cting as editor to

that splendid new work , '" The National Manuscripts of Scotland , " and many other authoritative and first-class works , and who saw it in 1 S 68 , said it was a forgery executed within the last 150 years , or taking plenty of time , within 200 at the utmost . Further , it was made up of pieces taken out of

different charters , and stuck together . Even before he saw it , and from a description of it which I sent him , he said it was a forgery ; and when I asked him how he knew that before he saw it , he very kindly and courteously answered , " Our first Corporate Charters were to burghs , and not till long

after came those to the gilds and corporations within and under burghs ; but we have no charters to burghs till William the Lion ( 1165-1214 ) . " So you see it did not require much sagacity to stamp the charter of Malcolm , full of the phraseology and the minute distinctions of a much later

day , as a forgery . The late Dr . G . A . Walker Arnotr , the distinguished Professor of Botany in the University of Glasgow , and who long tool . " an active interest in Masonry , as well as holdirg several high offices therein , called ibis pretended . barter a forgery , and shortly before his death wrote me as follows : —

" 2311 ! May , tSOS . — On getting out of bed this forenoon (& c ) , 1 read the Glasgow Herald , and in it what I presume is a letter from you , signed ' W . P . Ii / I congratulate you on the frank and open manner in which you state your conclusions ; and were such to be done in other cases , many discourteous dissensions would cense , " & c . ( To bt continued . )

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