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Provincial Funds.

Province of Lincolnshire , owing to its size , is not s 0 rich as some provinces , its returns are both interesting and valuable , and we shall be glad to receive similar provincial returns , and happy to analyze them for the information of our many readers .

Dedication Of The New Masonic Hall At New York.

DEDICATION OF THE NEW MASONIC HALL AT NEW YORK .

We call the attention of our readers to the interesting account of this remarkable scene taken from the Philadelphia Keystone , edited so admirably by our able and courteous confrere Clifford P . MacCalla . It was certainly a wonderful and striking gathering , which our brother so well and

so eloquently records . " Twenty-five thousand Masons were in line , says our brother , and participated in the Masonic procession , and solemn ceremonies . " The official numbers are 23 ,-3 60 ! Surely these figures almost say more than words . The Craft in America have

had bitter trials and angry adversaries , and the dreadful persecution ot the absurd Morgan affair to go through . But to-day Freemasonry is rapidly spreading through the United States , and in ten years more , if it progresses , as it is now progressing year by year , it will be counted by

one or two millions . As it is , it is said , on the authority of the reporter for the Standard at New York , that there are 9 , 101 lodges in the United States , with a membership of 524 , 6 49 brethren , but this does not include the Royal Arch and Templar organization . We believe that their

real number is near 7 > - The reporter states that in the figures he gives as the census for 1870 in America , namely , 58 , 576 , 371 inhabitants ; there is one Mason for every 74 inhabitants in the United States , a larger proportion of Masons than is to be found in any other country . Well these are cheering facts , and the

record of another page proves that our American brethren are wise in their generation , and are building deeply , and truly , and well , as faithful and trusting Craftsmen . May the new Masonic Hall serve as an impetus to Freemasonry in that great city and district , and may it tend to a large developement of as true Masonic charity and practical and useful benevolence .

Archæological Progress. No. Vii.

ARCH ? OLOGICAL PROGRESS . No . VII .

All the little " waifs" cast upon the great shore of Masonic Archaeology are valuable to the Masonic student . It had long been a question what was the exact connexion of tho Masons '

Company of the City of London with our speculative and accepted Order . Sir F . Palgrave laid it down as an historical fact that about the close of the 17 th century , the Freemasons and the Masons' Company separated , but of this

fact , as he puts it , there is , in truth , no historical trace ! It seems most doubtful whether the Masons' Company ever had anything to do with the Society of Freemasons . It seems to have been nothing but a pure trade guild ,

existing side by side with the Society of Freemasons . If ever it was connected with the actual Freemasons , that link has long been broken . Much stress has been laid on two entries in Elias Ashmole ' s Diary , but searches kindly made in the

books of the Masons' Company prove most indisputably that there is no actual identity between the Masons' Company and the Society of Freemasons . The Masons mentioned at Warrington were not members of the London

Masons' Company , as some have thought , and the old Masons whom Elias Ashmole mentions by name , in London , were clearly both Freemasons and members of the Masons ' Company at the same time . Hence the meeting

at Masons' Hall in 1682 , was that of Freemasons proper , and they admitted into their Order , members of the then Masons' Company . Elias Ashmole was not a member of the Masons' Company , nor was , curiously enough ,

Sir Christopher Wren , and we are especially told that the Master of the Masons' Company , Mr . Thomas Wise , was present at the special meeting or emergency meeting , as we should term it , at Masons' Hall , March 10 th , 1682 . All the names of Freemasons mentioned ia Ashmole ' s

Archæological Progress. No. Vii.

Diary are now verified , except Captain Borthwick and Waidsford , Esq ., as belonging to the Masons ' Company , and yet as also members of the Society of Freemasons . As the Masons ' Company did not meet in Basinghall Street , March 10 th , as it did not dine at the , c Hal

-Moon , Cheapside , nor was it in the-habit of dining there , it is quite clear that the meeting Ashmole mentions was a meeting of Freemasons proper , and not of the Masons' Company . We then come to this , that in 1682 , the Society of Freemasons was in existence alike in London ,

Lancashire , Staffordshire , on the distinct statement of trustworthy authorities , and at York in 16 9 8 , and no doubt much earlier . What becomes of the 1717 theory ? To use a slang phrase , it is " nowhere . " We anticipate many further discoveries yet , as regards old

records and minute books . The oldest minute book in England , so far known , is that of Alnwick , 1702 , and the next to it appears to be that of the Lodge of Industry , Gateshead . But others , no doubt , exist inforgotten collections of Masonic

records , and unopened boxes in our various lodges , and we feel sure that careful search would result in the discovery of documents which , as far as they prove anything , * would make clear the existence and continuation of the " Society of Freemasons" before 1700 .

Original Correspondence.

Original Correspondence .

[ We do net holtl ourselves responsible for , or even as approving of the opinions expressed by our correspondents , but we wish , in a spirit of fair play to all , to permit—within certain necessary limits—free discussion . —ED . ] THE GUILD THEORY ' versus THE 17 * 7

THEORY . To the Editor ofthe Freemason . Dear Sir and Brother , — I have several times read over the important letters upon this subject from " A Masonic Student" and Bro . W . J . Hughan , at page 223 , and I am only sorry that pressure of business and other literary work quite prevents

me at present from dealing with this subject in the way I would like to do . There is much to be said upon it that , so far as I am aware , has never yet been said by any one . 1 believe that 1 hold one end of the chain , which if I were only able to draw it in would astonish even Bro . Hughan himself to sec what came with it . For me , however , to attempt to deal with this subject properly at

present would be something equivalent to committing suicide in reference to other matters , and I have not the slightest intention of doing so at present , consequently I must delay coming to real close quarters with Bro . Hughan just now . I may , however , I trust , ask to be permitted to say a few words in reply to the letters on page 223 . ' * A Masonic Student" there says , "That Freemasonry existed before

1717 we have the most undoubted proofs . " Now I admit that fully , and am also ready to admit that " Freemasonry " existed in the thirteenth century , but the " Freemasonry " that existed several hundred years ago was not our Freemasonry . Neither did the " Freemasons " then existing know anything of our system of Freemasonry . As one proof of this I would point to the fact that the French ,

who led the van in mediaeval Freemasonry ( and who carved their records upon cathedrals " in a manner unsurpassed anywhere ) , knew nothing of what is now known as "Freemasonry" until about A . D . 1725 . Now , how is this ? Then there is the Pope ' s Bull of 1738 , which says that the Society had only been recently formed . Was the Pope and his advisers then telling lies , or showing their ignorance ,

or what were they doing ? As to what " A Masonic Student" says about Ashmole and Robert Padgett , & c , being Freemasons , it would be premature to reply until exact copies of a number of the minutes of the London Masons' Company and of this " Society of Freemasons" arc published . As to non-operatives being admitted into Masonic lodges long before A . D .

1717 , I am aware of that just as well as " A Masonic Student " and Bro . Hughan , and I have repeatedly said that they were so admitted , only I do not admit that they were thereby made acquainted with our system of Freemasonry . In fact , how could they ? seeing that even Bro . Hughan himself has repeatedly stated that our system of Freemasonry was not in existence

until A . D . 17171 In regard to this latter point " A Masonic Student" has been more consistent in his published remarks than Bro . Hughan , or else " the Guild Theory" as held by thc latter must be something very different from "thc Guild Theory" as held by the former . To settle this , perhaps both of these talented brethren will in next week's Freemason favour us with independent

explanations on the subject , including the antiquity they give to our three degrees ; and what , or how many degrees , if any , existed before 1717 . As to who were the authors of our system of Freemasonry , I again say that , so far as 1 can j udge , it was Desaguilliers , Anderson , and their friends , who manufactured it out of Bible legends , Pagan mysteries & c , making use of

the four old London lodges for that purpose . The fact of Ashmole and other gentlemen being Freemasons before 1717 simply paved the way for Desaguillicrs and his system , and so far as I can judge no Freemasonry , " identical with our present speculative Order , " existed before A . D . 1717 , any more than did Christianity exist before the time of Christ ,

Original Correspondence.

I find that I am quite unable to follow this up at present for want of time , but , I would beg of those who oppose me to remember that whereas the opponents of the 17 r 7 theory , have been engaged in bolstering up the antiquity of speculative Freemasonry for the last one hundred and forty years , and have hundreds or thousands of published works to refer to in support of their ideas , yet the supporters of the

1717 theory have as yet very little . Bro . Hughan himself has done great service , and has been hard at work , for many years , and has published various valuable Masonic works , yet after reading them I still hold by the 1717 theory , believing that if only one-hundreth part of the time

and money spent on Masonic researches was applied to seek out and publish the equally interesting records of the other Crafts , then the truth of the 1717 theory would be established . I am , fraternally yours , W . P . B . ciuff .

To the Editor ofthe Freemason , Dear Sir and Brother , — I need not copy the tone of Bro . Buchan ' s letter " exemplar vltus imitabile ; " 1 would rather invite your readers to turn back to the correspondence on this subject , commencing about the middle of the year 1870 , and extending through the first few months of 1871 . I venture

to say that they would want no further discussion of that airy nothing which has been dignified by the title of a "theory . " If Bro . Hughan had the leisure to turn back to the past correspondence , I believe he would at once qualify his offer to re-open the subject , and would be amazed that this exploded emptiness should be again dragged out to catch the unwary eyes of new brethren

whose experiences have yet to come . On the i _ th of November , 1870 , Bro . Hughan expressly requests Bro . Buchan to state " the reasons why he believed Freemasonry was originated in 1717 , and not revived . " Here was a plain opportunity for enabling your readers to judge of the grounds upon which Bro . Buchan ' s assertion was based ; grounds which all the laws of fair discussion

and Masonic candour required him , there and then , unequivocally to give . His reply on the 3 rd of December following is at once so brief , as well as self-convincing , that I give it in extenso . Bro . Buchan says : " So tar as I can at present judge , London in 1717 neither saw the ' revival' nor the ' origin ' of our system of Freemasonry ; but its institution and inauguration . " So Bro . Buchan ' s

evidence of a fact is his own judgment , and this is the manner in which so bold a " theorist " ventures to defend his assertions , before the intelligence of your readers , against the facts produced by careful enquirers . On the 24 th of December , 1870 , our patient Brother Hughan again appealed to Bro . Buchan to supply evidence in support of his " theory , " and pledged himself to examine it very carefully ;

but it was useless ; the assertion is empty , and has no evidence , ex nihils nihil fit . After being reminded of these facts , will Bro . Hughan still adhere to an unqualified offer to re-open the discussion with Bro . Buchan J The brother from Cincinnati ( who wrote in January , 1871 ) did not originate my producing the MS . of 1500 That brother appeared only towards the closing scenes '

of the discussion , with a nourish of ( his own ) trumpets , in the role of everybody ' s critic ( excepting , perhaps , Bro . Buchan's ) . He played his ( very small ) part , complained much of his reception , went out ( without the music ) , and returned no more . If Bro . Buchan had stated that I was mistaken in saying he had " challenged " me to produce an early reference to the word " speculative , "

but that his " challenge" had reference to a statute relating to Masons , he would have been right . I was thus far in error , as I readily acknowledge . Bro . Buchan " challenged" me , on the 3 rd December , 1870 , to produce acts of Parliament passed before last century which did not also apply to other Crafts . I met his challenge fairly in the following number ; but 1

regret to say that thc evidence thus offered was , as I and other of your correspondents have had reason to complain , not met with that desire to investigate , rather than detract , which may be fairly expected from any brother who enters upon a controversy with a desire to attain the truth , rather than to back up a mere opinion . My reference to the MS . was published on the 24 th of

December , 1870 , I believe , m opposition to an assertion that the use of the word " speculative" could not be shown in any Masonic document dating before 1717 . I said as much on the 21 st January , 1871 . I think your readers will not consider it necessary for me to reply to an unworthy insinuation , in Bro . Buchan's P . S ., that I should be likely to appropriate anv credit he

may deserve for the production of interesting information . I have not referred to the date he gives ( July , 1871 ) , but I can say that my letter as to the indenture of covenants , in reference to the white aprons and white gloves , appeared on the 10 th December , 1870 , Bro . Buchan at the time doing me the honour to designate it " a pretended quotation , " such being the good taste which he extended to the enquiry .

My adducing this indenture originated in the modest statement by Bro . Buchan ( 29 th October , 1870 ) , that because he knew of no authority for the white apron before 1717 he was kind enough to " consider it was only then introduced . " Verily , it is well for some of us that there

arc a few things in this world besides those which have come under our brother ' s special notice . With a repeated word of warning to new brethren to seek the substance of proof , and to reject the shadow of mere opinion , however confidently asserted , permit me to bid thc thc phantom of 1717 once more adieu . —LUPUS .

THE OLIVER MEMORIAL . To the Editor ofthe Freemason , Dear Sir and Brother-Being the projector of the scheme to obtain a scholarship at one of our universities for one of our ablest boys at the Masonic Institution , I may be excused , -. hope ,

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TABLE OF CONTENTS. Article 1
REPORTS OF MASONIC MEETINGS. Article 1
Royal Arch. Article 4
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THE BALANCE SHEET OF THE BOYSSCHOOL FOR 1874. Article 6
THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF FREEMASONRY IN RESPECT OF THE SOCIAL QUESTION. Article 6
PROVINCIAL FUNDS. Article 6
DEDICATION OF THE NEW MASONIC HALL AT NEW YORK. Article 7
ARCHÆOLOGICAL PROGRESS. No. VII. Article 7
Original Correspondence. Article 7
DEDICATION OF THE NEW YORK MASONIC TEMPLE. Article 9
Ireland. Article 9
PIC-NIC OF THE SKELMERSDALE LODGE, No. 1380. Article 10
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 10
ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF FREEMASONRY. Article 10
Multum in Parbo; or Masonic Notes and Queries. Article 10
Reviews. Article 10
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MASONIC BALL AT CAMBRIDGE. Article 11
Poetry. Article 11
LODGE OF BENEVOLENCE. Article 11
LAYNG THE FOUNDATION STONE OF A MEMORIAL FOUNTAIN AT WORMHILL. Article 11
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR GIRLS. Article 11
Masonic Tidings. Article 11
METROPOLITAN MASONIC MEETINGS. Article 12
MASONIC MEETINGS IN WEST LANCASHIRE AND CHESHIRE. Article 12
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Provincial Funds.

Province of Lincolnshire , owing to its size , is not s 0 rich as some provinces , its returns are both interesting and valuable , and we shall be glad to receive similar provincial returns , and happy to analyze them for the information of our many readers .

Dedication Of The New Masonic Hall At New York.

DEDICATION OF THE NEW MASONIC HALL AT NEW YORK .

We call the attention of our readers to the interesting account of this remarkable scene taken from the Philadelphia Keystone , edited so admirably by our able and courteous confrere Clifford P . MacCalla . It was certainly a wonderful and striking gathering , which our brother so well and

so eloquently records . " Twenty-five thousand Masons were in line , says our brother , and participated in the Masonic procession , and solemn ceremonies . " The official numbers are 23 ,-3 60 ! Surely these figures almost say more than words . The Craft in America have

had bitter trials and angry adversaries , and the dreadful persecution ot the absurd Morgan affair to go through . But to-day Freemasonry is rapidly spreading through the United States , and in ten years more , if it progresses , as it is now progressing year by year , it will be counted by

one or two millions . As it is , it is said , on the authority of the reporter for the Standard at New York , that there are 9 , 101 lodges in the United States , with a membership of 524 , 6 49 brethren , but this does not include the Royal Arch and Templar organization . We believe that their

real number is near 7 > - The reporter states that in the figures he gives as the census for 1870 in America , namely , 58 , 576 , 371 inhabitants ; there is one Mason for every 74 inhabitants in the United States , a larger proportion of Masons than is to be found in any other country . Well these are cheering facts , and the

record of another page proves that our American brethren are wise in their generation , and are building deeply , and truly , and well , as faithful and trusting Craftsmen . May the new Masonic Hall serve as an impetus to Freemasonry in that great city and district , and may it tend to a large developement of as true Masonic charity and practical and useful benevolence .

Archæological Progress. No. Vii.

ARCH ? OLOGICAL PROGRESS . No . VII .

All the little " waifs" cast upon the great shore of Masonic Archaeology are valuable to the Masonic student . It had long been a question what was the exact connexion of tho Masons '

Company of the City of London with our speculative and accepted Order . Sir F . Palgrave laid it down as an historical fact that about the close of the 17 th century , the Freemasons and the Masons' Company separated , but of this

fact , as he puts it , there is , in truth , no historical trace ! It seems most doubtful whether the Masons' Company ever had anything to do with the Society of Freemasons . It seems to have been nothing but a pure trade guild ,

existing side by side with the Society of Freemasons . If ever it was connected with the actual Freemasons , that link has long been broken . Much stress has been laid on two entries in Elias Ashmole ' s Diary , but searches kindly made in the

books of the Masons' Company prove most indisputably that there is no actual identity between the Masons' Company and the Society of Freemasons . The Masons mentioned at Warrington were not members of the London

Masons' Company , as some have thought , and the old Masons whom Elias Ashmole mentions by name , in London , were clearly both Freemasons and members of the Masons ' Company at the same time . Hence the meeting

at Masons' Hall in 1682 , was that of Freemasons proper , and they admitted into their Order , members of the then Masons' Company . Elias Ashmole was not a member of the Masons' Company , nor was , curiously enough ,

Sir Christopher Wren , and we are especially told that the Master of the Masons' Company , Mr . Thomas Wise , was present at the special meeting or emergency meeting , as we should term it , at Masons' Hall , March 10 th , 1682 . All the names of Freemasons mentioned ia Ashmole ' s

Archæological Progress. No. Vii.

Diary are now verified , except Captain Borthwick and Waidsford , Esq ., as belonging to the Masons ' Company , and yet as also members of the Society of Freemasons . As the Masons ' Company did not meet in Basinghall Street , March 10 th , as it did not dine at the , c Hal

-Moon , Cheapside , nor was it in the-habit of dining there , it is quite clear that the meeting Ashmole mentions was a meeting of Freemasons proper , and not of the Masons' Company . We then come to this , that in 1682 , the Society of Freemasons was in existence alike in London ,

Lancashire , Staffordshire , on the distinct statement of trustworthy authorities , and at York in 16 9 8 , and no doubt much earlier . What becomes of the 1717 theory ? To use a slang phrase , it is " nowhere . " We anticipate many further discoveries yet , as regards old

records and minute books . The oldest minute book in England , so far known , is that of Alnwick , 1702 , and the next to it appears to be that of the Lodge of Industry , Gateshead . But others , no doubt , exist inforgotten collections of Masonic

records , and unopened boxes in our various lodges , and we feel sure that careful search would result in the discovery of documents which , as far as they prove anything , * would make clear the existence and continuation of the " Society of Freemasons" before 1700 .

Original Correspondence.

Original Correspondence .

[ We do net holtl ourselves responsible for , or even as approving of the opinions expressed by our correspondents , but we wish , in a spirit of fair play to all , to permit—within certain necessary limits—free discussion . —ED . ] THE GUILD THEORY ' versus THE 17 * 7

THEORY . To the Editor ofthe Freemason . Dear Sir and Brother , — I have several times read over the important letters upon this subject from " A Masonic Student" and Bro . W . J . Hughan , at page 223 , and I am only sorry that pressure of business and other literary work quite prevents

me at present from dealing with this subject in the way I would like to do . There is much to be said upon it that , so far as I am aware , has never yet been said by any one . 1 believe that 1 hold one end of the chain , which if I were only able to draw it in would astonish even Bro . Hughan himself to sec what came with it . For me , however , to attempt to deal with this subject properly at

present would be something equivalent to committing suicide in reference to other matters , and I have not the slightest intention of doing so at present , consequently I must delay coming to real close quarters with Bro . Hughan just now . I may , however , I trust , ask to be permitted to say a few words in reply to the letters on page 223 . ' * A Masonic Student" there says , "That Freemasonry existed before

1717 we have the most undoubted proofs . " Now I admit that fully , and am also ready to admit that " Freemasonry " existed in the thirteenth century , but the " Freemasonry " that existed several hundred years ago was not our Freemasonry . Neither did the " Freemasons " then existing know anything of our system of Freemasonry . As one proof of this I would point to the fact that the French ,

who led the van in mediaeval Freemasonry ( and who carved their records upon cathedrals " in a manner unsurpassed anywhere ) , knew nothing of what is now known as "Freemasonry" until about A . D . 1725 . Now , how is this ? Then there is the Pope ' s Bull of 1738 , which says that the Society had only been recently formed . Was the Pope and his advisers then telling lies , or showing their ignorance ,

or what were they doing ? As to what " A Masonic Student" says about Ashmole and Robert Padgett , & c , being Freemasons , it would be premature to reply until exact copies of a number of the minutes of the London Masons' Company and of this " Society of Freemasons" arc published . As to non-operatives being admitted into Masonic lodges long before A . D .

1717 , I am aware of that just as well as " A Masonic Student " and Bro . Hughan , and I have repeatedly said that they were so admitted , only I do not admit that they were thereby made acquainted with our system of Freemasonry . In fact , how could they ? seeing that even Bro . Hughan himself has repeatedly stated that our system of Freemasonry was not in existence

until A . D . 17171 In regard to this latter point " A Masonic Student" has been more consistent in his published remarks than Bro . Hughan , or else " the Guild Theory" as held by thc latter must be something very different from "thc Guild Theory" as held by the former . To settle this , perhaps both of these talented brethren will in next week's Freemason favour us with independent

explanations on the subject , including the antiquity they give to our three degrees ; and what , or how many degrees , if any , existed before 1717 . As to who were the authors of our system of Freemasonry , I again say that , so far as 1 can j udge , it was Desaguilliers , Anderson , and their friends , who manufactured it out of Bible legends , Pagan mysteries & c , making use of

the four old London lodges for that purpose . The fact of Ashmole and other gentlemen being Freemasons before 1717 simply paved the way for Desaguillicrs and his system , and so far as I can judge no Freemasonry , " identical with our present speculative Order , " existed before A . D . 1717 , any more than did Christianity exist before the time of Christ ,

Original Correspondence.

I find that I am quite unable to follow this up at present for want of time , but , I would beg of those who oppose me to remember that whereas the opponents of the 17 r 7 theory , have been engaged in bolstering up the antiquity of speculative Freemasonry for the last one hundred and forty years , and have hundreds or thousands of published works to refer to in support of their ideas , yet the supporters of the

1717 theory have as yet very little . Bro . Hughan himself has done great service , and has been hard at work , for many years , and has published various valuable Masonic works , yet after reading them I still hold by the 1717 theory , believing that if only one-hundreth part of the time

and money spent on Masonic researches was applied to seek out and publish the equally interesting records of the other Crafts , then the truth of the 1717 theory would be established . I am , fraternally yours , W . P . B . ciuff .

To the Editor ofthe Freemason , Dear Sir and Brother , — I need not copy the tone of Bro . Buchan ' s letter " exemplar vltus imitabile ; " 1 would rather invite your readers to turn back to the correspondence on this subject , commencing about the middle of the year 1870 , and extending through the first few months of 1871 . I venture

to say that they would want no further discussion of that airy nothing which has been dignified by the title of a "theory . " If Bro . Hughan had the leisure to turn back to the past correspondence , I believe he would at once qualify his offer to re-open the subject , and would be amazed that this exploded emptiness should be again dragged out to catch the unwary eyes of new brethren

whose experiences have yet to come . On the i _ th of November , 1870 , Bro . Hughan expressly requests Bro . Buchan to state " the reasons why he believed Freemasonry was originated in 1717 , and not revived . " Here was a plain opportunity for enabling your readers to judge of the grounds upon which Bro . Buchan ' s assertion was based ; grounds which all the laws of fair discussion

and Masonic candour required him , there and then , unequivocally to give . His reply on the 3 rd of December following is at once so brief , as well as self-convincing , that I give it in extenso . Bro . Buchan says : " So tar as I can at present judge , London in 1717 neither saw the ' revival' nor the ' origin ' of our system of Freemasonry ; but its institution and inauguration . " So Bro . Buchan ' s

evidence of a fact is his own judgment , and this is the manner in which so bold a " theorist " ventures to defend his assertions , before the intelligence of your readers , against the facts produced by careful enquirers . On the 24 th of December , 1870 , our patient Brother Hughan again appealed to Bro . Buchan to supply evidence in support of his " theory , " and pledged himself to examine it very carefully ;

but it was useless ; the assertion is empty , and has no evidence , ex nihils nihil fit . After being reminded of these facts , will Bro . Hughan still adhere to an unqualified offer to re-open the discussion with Bro . Buchan J The brother from Cincinnati ( who wrote in January , 1871 ) did not originate my producing the MS . of 1500 That brother appeared only towards the closing scenes '

of the discussion , with a nourish of ( his own ) trumpets , in the role of everybody ' s critic ( excepting , perhaps , Bro . Buchan's ) . He played his ( very small ) part , complained much of his reception , went out ( without the music ) , and returned no more . If Bro . Buchan had stated that I was mistaken in saying he had " challenged " me to produce an early reference to the word " speculative , "

but that his " challenge" had reference to a statute relating to Masons , he would have been right . I was thus far in error , as I readily acknowledge . Bro . Buchan " challenged" me , on the 3 rd December , 1870 , to produce acts of Parliament passed before last century which did not also apply to other Crafts . I met his challenge fairly in the following number ; but 1

regret to say that thc evidence thus offered was , as I and other of your correspondents have had reason to complain , not met with that desire to investigate , rather than detract , which may be fairly expected from any brother who enters upon a controversy with a desire to attain the truth , rather than to back up a mere opinion . My reference to the MS . was published on the 24 th of

December , 1870 , I believe , m opposition to an assertion that the use of the word " speculative" could not be shown in any Masonic document dating before 1717 . I said as much on the 21 st January , 1871 . I think your readers will not consider it necessary for me to reply to an unworthy insinuation , in Bro . Buchan's P . S ., that I should be likely to appropriate anv credit he

may deserve for the production of interesting information . I have not referred to the date he gives ( July , 1871 ) , but I can say that my letter as to the indenture of covenants , in reference to the white aprons and white gloves , appeared on the 10 th December , 1870 , Bro . Buchan at the time doing me the honour to designate it " a pretended quotation , " such being the good taste which he extended to the enquiry .

My adducing this indenture originated in the modest statement by Bro . Buchan ( 29 th October , 1870 ) , that because he knew of no authority for the white apron before 1717 he was kind enough to " consider it was only then introduced . " Verily , it is well for some of us that there

arc a few things in this world besides those which have come under our brother ' s special notice . With a repeated word of warning to new brethren to seek the substance of proof , and to reject the shadow of mere opinion , however confidently asserted , permit me to bid thc thc phantom of 1717 once more adieu . —LUPUS .

THE OLIVER MEMORIAL . To the Editor ofthe Freemason , Dear Sir and Brother-Being the projector of the scheme to obtain a scholarship at one of our universities for one of our ablest boys at the Masonic Institution , I may be excused , -. hope ,

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