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The Age Of Ancient Masonic Manuscripts.

THE AGE OF ANCIENT MASONIC MANUSCRIPTS .

BY A . F . A . WOODFORD , P . G . C . I have read Bro . Norton ' s article on the question of the antiquity of MSS ., ' in the last Magazine , and have thought

it well , as he mentions my name more than once , to insert the following short paper on the subject . We do not profess to encourage controversial articles in the Magazine , or to find room for statement and

counter-statement , and therefore this little archaeological contribution of mine must not be regarded by any as intended only as a rejoinder to Bro . Norton , but merely as clear and comprehensive a

view of the present condition of the case , evidentially , as regards the Masonic MSS . as it is now possible to lay before the readers of the Magazine . 1 . I do not profess to be able to follow the critical remarks of Bro .

Norton on the age of the special MSS . he alludes to , as I cannot understand the grounds on which he arrives at the conclusions he announces to be his on the subject , and neither do I think that his criticism on the age of the MSS .

is based on a very sure or safe foundation . From some remarks it is quite clear to me that Bro . Norton has never himself studied in the ori ginal the MSS . he treats upon , and until lie lias done so , as all experts would tell him , theories

raised on " facsimiles " or printed copies are utterly valueless for any correct archaeological or historical treatment of such evidences . We must always bear in mind that a good many thingsso to say

to-, , go gether , and decide the question of the real antiquity of MSS . There are many peculiarities , for instance , in both the appearance and

character of MSS ., which strike at once the eye of the expert student , as indubitable signs of special epochs , and such " indicia ; " are not reproducible in printed works , and nothing is so dangerous as to argue or dogmatize

about the age of MSS . which you have not seen and carefully studied in their original form and fashion .

Bro . Norton apparently is anxious to establish that we in England , having the MSS ., to study and collate , have by some mistaken theories of our own , exaggerated the antiquity of our MS . , authorities , whereas he in America , from

the published copies of them he has seen , is prepared to fix their true dates considerably later . As far as I am concerned myself , I entirely repudiate any wish to give any antiquity to our Masonic MSS . which " experts " will

not equally grant , and I have studied them and compared them most carefully , with an honest desire after accuracy and truth . Let us take , first of all , the famous Masonic Poem ! I have before stated that the MS . is ,

in my humble opinion , a 14 th century MS ., and in this , if 1 do err , I err in very good company , as Casley and Hallivvell , and Mr . Wallbran were all of the same opinion . It is true that Mr . Bond of the

British Museum , a high authority , states that in his opinion the MS . Poem is of the early part of the 15 th century ; but even supposing the 14 th century character of the MS . should be successfully invalidated , no one can possibly

make the poem later than the early part of the 15 th century . I have recently been reading some of the valuable publications of the " Early Text Society , " and have made a somewhat curious discovery . Among

their reprints is one called " Instructions for Parish Priests , by John Myrc . " John Myrc was Canon of Lilleshall in Shropshire , a house founded by Eichard de Belmeis , between 1144 and i 148 , for a body of Arroasian Canons ,

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A DREAM OF FAIR FACES. Article 11
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CHARLES DICKENS—A LECTURE. Article 12
COURAGE. Article 17
THE CHANGE OF YEARS. Article 18
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Our Archaeological Corner. Article 23
A LITTLE GOOD ADVICE. Article 24
LOIS' STRATEGY. Article 27
PEOPLE WILL TALK. Article 29
WHAT IS THE GOOD OF FREE MASONRY? Article 30
"THE NIGHTINGALE." Article 32
IN MEMORIAM. Article 32
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The Age Of Ancient Masonic Manuscripts.

THE AGE OF ANCIENT MASONIC MANUSCRIPTS .

BY A . F . A . WOODFORD , P . G . C . I have read Bro . Norton ' s article on the question of the antiquity of MSS ., ' in the last Magazine , and have thought

it well , as he mentions my name more than once , to insert the following short paper on the subject . We do not profess to encourage controversial articles in the Magazine , or to find room for statement and

counter-statement , and therefore this little archaeological contribution of mine must not be regarded by any as intended only as a rejoinder to Bro . Norton , but merely as clear and comprehensive a

view of the present condition of the case , evidentially , as regards the Masonic MSS . as it is now possible to lay before the readers of the Magazine . 1 . I do not profess to be able to follow the critical remarks of Bro .

Norton on the age of the special MSS . he alludes to , as I cannot understand the grounds on which he arrives at the conclusions he announces to be his on the subject , and neither do I think that his criticism on the age of the MSS .

is based on a very sure or safe foundation . From some remarks it is quite clear to me that Bro . Norton has never himself studied in the ori ginal the MSS . he treats upon , and until lie lias done so , as all experts would tell him , theories

raised on " facsimiles " or printed copies are utterly valueless for any correct archaeological or historical treatment of such evidences . We must always bear in mind that a good many thingsso to say

to-, , go gether , and decide the question of the real antiquity of MSS . There are many peculiarities , for instance , in both the appearance and

character of MSS ., which strike at once the eye of the expert student , as indubitable signs of special epochs , and such " indicia ; " are not reproducible in printed works , and nothing is so dangerous as to argue or dogmatize

about the age of MSS . which you have not seen and carefully studied in their original form and fashion .

Bro . Norton apparently is anxious to establish that we in England , having the MSS ., to study and collate , have by some mistaken theories of our own , exaggerated the antiquity of our MS . , authorities , whereas he in America , from

the published copies of them he has seen , is prepared to fix their true dates considerably later . As far as I am concerned myself , I entirely repudiate any wish to give any antiquity to our Masonic MSS . which " experts " will

not equally grant , and I have studied them and compared them most carefully , with an honest desire after accuracy and truth . Let us take , first of all , the famous Masonic Poem ! I have before stated that the MS . is ,

in my humble opinion , a 14 th century MS ., and in this , if 1 do err , I err in very good company , as Casley and Hallivvell , and Mr . Wallbran were all of the same opinion . It is true that Mr . Bond of the

British Museum , a high authority , states that in his opinion the MS . Poem is of the early part of the 15 th century ; but even supposing the 14 th century character of the MS . should be successfully invalidated , no one can possibly

make the poem later than the early part of the 15 th century . I have recently been reading some of the valuable publications of the " Early Text Society , " and have made a somewhat curious discovery . Among

their reprints is one called " Instructions for Parish Priests , by John Myrc . " John Myrc was Canon of Lilleshall in Shropshire , a house founded by Eichard de Belmeis , between 1144 and i 148 , for a body of Arroasian Canons ,

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