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The Masonic Miiror,

General Committee ^ and all undisposed of business on the agenda paper of the Lodge at which any such resolution for an adjournment shall be adopted , may be brought forward and disposed of at any such adjourned meeting . " He contended that the Grand Lodge met for the purpose of discussing propositions / and not to legislate without discussion ; and if their business could not be completed within the time usually allotted to their proceedings , as had frequently been the case , the necessity far some such proposition as that which he submitted was sufficiently obvious . On the last occasion they only got as far

as the end of the orders of the day , and left twenty-two notices of motion standing upon the paper untouch eel . ( Hear , hear . ) Much dissatisfaction prevailed throughout the Craft at the mode in which the business of Grand Lodge had been conducted . As for the allegation that there were parties in Grand Lodge ^ he contended that there ought only to be one party in any body of Freemasons . ( Applause . ) He thought that the four Quarterly Comrriunieations of Grand Bodge were now no longer adequate to meet the wants of such as Breemasonry had now become . If the Order was to continue prosperous and esteemed , the important resolutions submitted to Grand Lodge ought to receive careful attention and deliberate discussion . This could not be done with

only four meetings a year , of three hours each , when an hour or an hour and a half was spent in reading the minutes . ( Hear , hear . ) He believed that this resolution , instead of detracting from the honour or lustre of the office of Grand Master , or of any of the Grand Officers , it would increase their power , and the system of Freemasonry would rise , in the esteem of the outer world . ( Applause . ) Bro . BE . G . Warren , P . M . No . 202 : I second the motion with peculiar pleasure , because it arises out of a motion of mine in September last for the holding of a Lodge , which your lordship declared illegal . I am not going to dispute that

decision , as we are bound by your lordship ' s decisions as G . M . But I do consider that the power of adjournment is more particularly necessary , because meetings like this are in themselves anomalous for it has been held , that when once we give notice of motion , if it is not brought on before eleven o ' clock at night , notice must be given again , and then we find perhaps ten or twelve new motions before those previously put on the paper . ( Hear , hear , and applause . ) Tims we may go on for years without being able to bring on our motions . ( Hear , hear , and

cheers . ) The G . M ., by calling a special meeting , decides that the motions are not to drop , but that we are now to begin where we left off in December , though the motions are held by the Board of Masters to be dropped . I think , if for no other reason than to remedy this anomaly , we ought to have the power of adjournment . ( Hear , hear . ) I can assure your lordship , that there is no Brother here who will support the motion for adjournment from factious motives . ( Applause . ) What we want is to go on with the questions before us , and avoid , as far as practicable , continual adjournments .

Bro . J . R . Stebbing , W . M . No 462 , P . M . Nos . 152 and 155 , moved the following amendment : "That the following addition be made to the 7 th section , p . 19 , ' Book of Constitutions ' : — 'That it shall be competent for a majority of the members present at any of the before-mentioned or at any other Grand Lodge , to adjourn any portion of the business appointed to be transacted , to some day to be appointed by the M . W . Grand Master or his Deputy for the holding of a Special Grand Lodge , within one month from the day of adjournment , if at or after eleven o ' clock any portion of such business shall remain undisposed of . ' " He said he came 100 miles himself to attend Grand Lodge , and was sometimes

accompanied by eight or ten Brethren ( hear , hear ) , and then they found that the business appointed to be transacted was postponed . ( Hear , hear . ) Sometimes it appeared purposely postponed . It was impossible to carry ' on the increasing business of Masonry with the four Quarterly Communications . If the G-rand Lodge was not held legally , several Grand Lodges would be held illegally . Ho hoped they would avoid the quicksand lying before them in their path , by holding Grand Lodges so often as to allow every Brother a chnnce of bringing his motions forward . He had himself seventeen motions he was anxious to introduce . ( Loud laughter and cheers . ) No institute could live without full and free discussion . ( Laughter and applause . ) There was great dissatisfaction in the country ; his

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MASONIC QUESTIONS. Article 1
THE VISIBLE SYMBOLISM OF FREEMASONRY. Article 4
HISTORY OF THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE Article 7
MASONIC SONG. Article 10
REVIEWS OF NEW BOOKS. Article 11
THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 12
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 13
WEST LANCASHIRE MASONIC EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION. Article 17
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 18
METROPOLITAN. Article 30
PROVINCIAL. Article 43
ROYAL ARCH. Article 54
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 58
MARK MASONRY Article 59
SCOTLAND. Article 61
IRELAND Article 64
COLONIAL Article 65
AMERICA, Article 68
MASONIC FESTIVITIES Article 69
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR FEBRUARY. Article 73
Obituary. Article 79
notice. Article 79
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The Masonic Miiror,

General Committee ^ and all undisposed of business on the agenda paper of the Lodge at which any such resolution for an adjournment shall be adopted , may be brought forward and disposed of at any such adjourned meeting . " He contended that the Grand Lodge met for the purpose of discussing propositions / and not to legislate without discussion ; and if their business could not be completed within the time usually allotted to their proceedings , as had frequently been the case , the necessity far some such proposition as that which he submitted was sufficiently obvious . On the last occasion they only got as far

as the end of the orders of the day , and left twenty-two notices of motion standing upon the paper untouch eel . ( Hear , hear . ) Much dissatisfaction prevailed throughout the Craft at the mode in which the business of Grand Lodge had been conducted . As for the allegation that there were parties in Grand Lodge ^ he contended that there ought only to be one party in any body of Freemasons . ( Applause . ) He thought that the four Quarterly Comrriunieations of Grand Bodge were now no longer adequate to meet the wants of such as Breemasonry had now become . If the Order was to continue prosperous and esteemed , the important resolutions submitted to Grand Lodge ought to receive careful attention and deliberate discussion . This could not be done with

only four meetings a year , of three hours each , when an hour or an hour and a half was spent in reading the minutes . ( Hear , hear . ) He believed that this resolution , instead of detracting from the honour or lustre of the office of Grand Master , or of any of the Grand Officers , it would increase their power , and the system of Freemasonry would rise , in the esteem of the outer world . ( Applause . ) Bro . BE . G . Warren , P . M . No . 202 : I second the motion with peculiar pleasure , because it arises out of a motion of mine in September last for the holding of a Lodge , which your lordship declared illegal . I am not going to dispute that

decision , as we are bound by your lordship ' s decisions as G . M . But I do consider that the power of adjournment is more particularly necessary , because meetings like this are in themselves anomalous for it has been held , that when once we give notice of motion , if it is not brought on before eleven o ' clock at night , notice must be given again , and then we find perhaps ten or twelve new motions before those previously put on the paper . ( Hear , hear , and applause . ) Tims we may go on for years without being able to bring on our motions . ( Hear , hear , and

cheers . ) The G . M ., by calling a special meeting , decides that the motions are not to drop , but that we are now to begin where we left off in December , though the motions are held by the Board of Masters to be dropped . I think , if for no other reason than to remedy this anomaly , we ought to have the power of adjournment . ( Hear , hear . ) I can assure your lordship , that there is no Brother here who will support the motion for adjournment from factious motives . ( Applause . ) What we want is to go on with the questions before us , and avoid , as far as practicable , continual adjournments .

Bro . J . R . Stebbing , W . M . No 462 , P . M . Nos . 152 and 155 , moved the following amendment : "That the following addition be made to the 7 th section , p . 19 , ' Book of Constitutions ' : — 'That it shall be competent for a majority of the members present at any of the before-mentioned or at any other Grand Lodge , to adjourn any portion of the business appointed to be transacted , to some day to be appointed by the M . W . Grand Master or his Deputy for the holding of a Special Grand Lodge , within one month from the day of adjournment , if at or after eleven o ' clock any portion of such business shall remain undisposed of . ' " He said he came 100 miles himself to attend Grand Lodge , and was sometimes

accompanied by eight or ten Brethren ( hear , hear ) , and then they found that the business appointed to be transacted was postponed . ( Hear , hear . ) Sometimes it appeared purposely postponed . It was impossible to carry ' on the increasing business of Masonry with the four Quarterly Communications . If the G-rand Lodge was not held legally , several Grand Lodges would be held illegally . Ho hoped they would avoid the quicksand lying before them in their path , by holding Grand Lodges so often as to allow every Brother a chnnce of bringing his motions forward . He had himself seventeen motions he was anxious to introduce . ( Loud laughter and cheers . ) No institute could live without full and free discussion . ( Laughter and applause . ) There was great dissatisfaction in the country ; his

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