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The Canadian Movement.

New York , at tfye hands of her strong and great men , chose to confine her Masonic sympathies to her own side of the St . Lawrence . " Not thus did the Masonry of the Empire State reason when she formed her own independent Grand Lodge . She did not rely upon the ' implied or express consent of England , ' nor seek the sanction of any Provincial Grand Lodge which bad chartered local Lodges in her territory ; nor did she then understand that rebellion and independencew'ere synonymous terms . She then felt the ability to

stand up and walk in her own legitimate inherent strength ; she threw the crutches of English dependence in England ' s face , and marched on triumphantly to her own high and glorious Masonic destiny . When I assert this , I do it upon the authority contended for by the legitimate Grand Lodge of New York , which has always claimed that ' in 1785 it adopted a new constitution , and thereby threw off all allegiance to the parent body . V Unless this be true , I see no escap the position contended for by the revolutionary Grand Lodge of that state , which I understand to holdy 'that , down to 1849 , the Grand Lodge of New York continued to be Provincial to the Grand Lodge of England . '

< f Before the declared independence of the Grand Lodge of New York , by the alleged action of 1785 , that grand body had , for several years , been independent de facto . Her pro vincial Charter required her to make returns of her proceedings to the Grand Lodge of England , and allow appeals to be taken thereto . But from and after September , 1777 / she made no returns , and suffered no appeals to be taken ; styled herself the Grand Lodge of New York , and not the Provincial Grand Lodge , and claimed the independent title of jfe

Right Worshipful , the latter being the title of all Provincial Grand Lodges . For the term of about eight years , then , she acted independently , without declaring herself so , and her action , during that interregnum between dependence and undeclared independence , she has always claimed to have been correct and legitimate , and the Masonic world has not denied it . Upon principle , however , it would be difficult to find any thing as irregular as all this in any of the acts and doings of the forty-one Lodges of Canada .

" Missouri , in refusing to acknowledge the independent Grand Lodge of Canada , offers no argument but the first impressions of her Grand Master , acquiesced in , apparently p > ro forma , by a Committee . The decision of Virginia , I only know by a statement in the Freemason ' s Magazine of Boston . I have not yet seen her proceedings ; but if the Grand Lodge of that venerable old state is perfectly satisfied with the facts and arguments on which her own independence was established , it is not easy to understand her want of appreciation of those which exist as to the independent Grand Lodge of Canada .

"I have read the Report of the Committee on this subject , adoj ) ted by the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts ; and considering the names it bears , and the history of the formation of the Grand Lodge of that ancient Commonwealth , I have been more than surprised at some of its positions . " The . Report begins with the expression of a great deal of sympathy , and expresses the opinion that an independent organization is essential to the effective

and proper working of the Order , in the opinion of the entire Craft in Canada ; but professes to find well-tried principles' in the way of recognition , and then states the question at issue to be , ' whether it is consistent , with the recognized laws or customs of Ereemasonry , for any Lodges under a particular jurisdiction , to secede from the parent body without its consent , and to form , of their own authority , a new body , having an independent existence and independent powers . '

" Although the question might have been stated with greater fairness , I do not object to it , as thus expressed . And I feel no difficulty in saying , that if the consistency of such action is denied , Massachusetts herself has no legitimate Grand-L / odge whatever . She asked no ' consent to c secede' from the parent body , ' by

either of her Provincial Grand Lodges . Roth on the 2 nd day of January , 1783 , when the old Massachusetts Grand Lodge assembled , after an entire suspension of eight years ; and in August , 1785 ^ when her Saint John ' s Grand Lodge met , after a suspension of more than twelve years—wo find no such idea dreamed of , so far as she has seen fit to disclose her history to the Masonic world . The Grand Master of one of her Grand Lodges lay in his shroud of glory under the King's

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ELECTION OF GRAND MASTER. Article 1
THE CANADAS. Article 2
THE EIGHT OF REPORTING IN GRAND LODGE. Article 3
NOTICE OF GRAND LODGE BUISNESS. Article 5
THE CANADIAN MOVEMENT. Article 5
THE QUARRYMAN OF ST. POINT. Article 15
REVIEWS OF NEW BOOKS. Article 16
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 18
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 23
METROPOLITAN. Article 40
PROVINCIAL. Article 51
ROYAL ARCH. Article 59
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 63
THE HIGH GRADES. Article 68
MARK MASONRY. Article 68
SCOTLAND. Article 69
COLONIAL Article 75
INDIA Article 79
MASONIC FESTIVITIES Article 80
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR MARCH Article 83
MASONIC ARCHITECTURE. Article 89
Obituary. Article 90
NOTICE. Article 91
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The Canadian Movement.

New York , at tfye hands of her strong and great men , chose to confine her Masonic sympathies to her own side of the St . Lawrence . " Not thus did the Masonry of the Empire State reason when she formed her own independent Grand Lodge . She did not rely upon the ' implied or express consent of England , ' nor seek the sanction of any Provincial Grand Lodge which bad chartered local Lodges in her territory ; nor did she then understand that rebellion and independencew'ere synonymous terms . She then felt the ability to

stand up and walk in her own legitimate inherent strength ; she threw the crutches of English dependence in England ' s face , and marched on triumphantly to her own high and glorious Masonic destiny . When I assert this , I do it upon the authority contended for by the legitimate Grand Lodge of New York , which has always claimed that ' in 1785 it adopted a new constitution , and thereby threw off all allegiance to the parent body . V Unless this be true , I see no escap the position contended for by the revolutionary Grand Lodge of that state , which I understand to holdy 'that , down to 1849 , the Grand Lodge of New York continued to be Provincial to the Grand Lodge of England . '

< f Before the declared independence of the Grand Lodge of New York , by the alleged action of 1785 , that grand body had , for several years , been independent de facto . Her pro vincial Charter required her to make returns of her proceedings to the Grand Lodge of England , and allow appeals to be taken thereto . But from and after September , 1777 / she made no returns , and suffered no appeals to be taken ; styled herself the Grand Lodge of New York , and not the Provincial Grand Lodge , and claimed the independent title of jfe

Right Worshipful , the latter being the title of all Provincial Grand Lodges . For the term of about eight years , then , she acted independently , without declaring herself so , and her action , during that interregnum between dependence and undeclared independence , she has always claimed to have been correct and legitimate , and the Masonic world has not denied it . Upon principle , however , it would be difficult to find any thing as irregular as all this in any of the acts and doings of the forty-one Lodges of Canada .

" Missouri , in refusing to acknowledge the independent Grand Lodge of Canada , offers no argument but the first impressions of her Grand Master , acquiesced in , apparently p > ro forma , by a Committee . The decision of Virginia , I only know by a statement in the Freemason ' s Magazine of Boston . I have not yet seen her proceedings ; but if the Grand Lodge of that venerable old state is perfectly satisfied with the facts and arguments on which her own independence was established , it is not easy to understand her want of appreciation of those which exist as to the independent Grand Lodge of Canada .

"I have read the Report of the Committee on this subject , adoj ) ted by the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts ; and considering the names it bears , and the history of the formation of the Grand Lodge of that ancient Commonwealth , I have been more than surprised at some of its positions . " The . Report begins with the expression of a great deal of sympathy , and expresses the opinion that an independent organization is essential to the effective

and proper working of the Order , in the opinion of the entire Craft in Canada ; but professes to find well-tried principles' in the way of recognition , and then states the question at issue to be , ' whether it is consistent , with the recognized laws or customs of Ereemasonry , for any Lodges under a particular jurisdiction , to secede from the parent body without its consent , and to form , of their own authority , a new body , having an independent existence and independent powers . '

" Although the question might have been stated with greater fairness , I do not object to it , as thus expressed . And I feel no difficulty in saying , that if the consistency of such action is denied , Massachusetts herself has no legitimate Grand-L / odge whatever . She asked no ' consent to c secede' from the parent body , ' by

either of her Provincial Grand Lodges . Roth on the 2 nd day of January , 1783 , when the old Massachusetts Grand Lodge assembled , after an entire suspension of eight years ; and in August , 1785 ^ when her Saint John ' s Grand Lodge met , after a suspension of more than twelve years—wo find no such idea dreamed of , so far as she has seen fit to disclose her history to the Masonic world . The Grand Master of one of her Grand Lodges lay in his shroud of glory under the King's

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