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having been removed from the province of West Yorkshire to that of East Lancashire . On the motion that the report be received and adopted , Comp . Warren rose to express his opinion that the report of the committee relative to the memorial from St . Kitt ' s was not satisfactory . The report of the committee stated , that the St . Kitt's Chapter ceased to exist on the roll of Chapters from 1821 , from which time nothing had been heard of it until a very recent period .

Now he held in his hand a copy of the memorial , together with the correspondence attached to it ; and he found that , in 1832 , the Principals of the Mount Horeb Chapter addressed a letter to the Grand Chapter in London , in which they announced that they had recommenced working , and they proceeded to say , "We also forwarda list of our present Companions , by which your Grand and Royal Chapter will perceive that eight Companions have since then ( January , 1832 ) been exalted , with the

usual fee of five shillings sterling each for the registration of their names in your Grand and Keyal Chapter , and we respectfully and affectionately pray to be furnished with general instructions for our government , assuring your Grand and Royal Arch Chapter that we shall in all things conform to your orders and instructions . " That document was signed John Hazell , Wm . H . Male , John W . Wattley , and Wm . M . A bbott . He ( Comp . Warren ) did not find that any reply was ever given to that communication , and therefore the Companions at St . Kitt ' s

might suppose that at least their existence was tacitly acknowledged ; and if this letter were received in 1832 , how could it be said that nothing had been heard of the parties from 1821 to a very recent period ? But furthermore , he held in his hands a copy of a letter , dated St . Kitt's , on the 2 nd September , last , to Comp . Parnfield , by Comp . D . Hart , of the Royal Arch Chapter , No . 585 , in which he called attention to some personal communications on the same subject , in 1839 , seven years after the letter from which he had already read an extract . That letter said , "'The opportunity of being here at the time of this meeting being held affords

me an opportunity of also bringing under your recollection , that , in the year 1839 , myself and Comp . John Barr , then of this island , but now deceased , called at your office , to put matters right regarding the said Charter and of the past deeds . Some delay was caused , in the matter not being that day at once settled , in consequence of Bro . White being out of town ; but Comp . Barr , however , gave his number and street ( 14 , Cecil-street , Strand ) , at which he could be found and where a certificate might be sent him . On the following day , a Pro . Barton called on Bro . Barr with a document from Bro . White , as to matters of the Chapter having been duly settled , and , as far as I recollect , giving anew number to the said Charter . Bro . Barr further , and in my presence , tendered or declared

himself ready to pay any amount that might be due or owing . I am positive that the names of the then Officers of the Chapter were given in , as also the names of three Brethren that had been in that year ( 1830 ) exalted , and that a note of all of which was duly taken down . " He ( Comp . Warren ) did not wish to say more ; but had merely called attention to these documents to prove that the committee in stopping at 1821 , did not appear to have dealt with the whole matter which ought to have come under their consideration , and that the position in which the Chapter stood could not fairly be said to have been only known at a very recent period .

Comp . Henderson , G . R ., felt that the extracts which Comp . Warren had been reading were of considerable importance , and put a different face upon the matter to that which it appeared , to bear according to the report of the committee . He would therefore move that for the present the report be only received , and not adopted . It appeared that the charter was originally granted in 1793 , and that in 1817 and 1821 Grand Chapter not being able to get any information relative to it , the

charter was supposed to have been allowed to drop , and it had been since erased from their list of charters . What course should be taken with regard to subsequent events he was not yet prepared to say ; but he considered that they could not revive the old charter , and probably the best course to pursue would be for the Grand Chapter to grant the Companions a new charter if it should be deemed desirable , and recognize the Companions exalted by the issue of certificates to them .

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1857-06-01, Page 69” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 24 June 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/frm_01061857/page/69/.
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MASONIC REPORTING. Article 1
THE NEW GRAND OFFICERS - WHO'S WHO? Article 3
THE VISIBLE SYMBOLISM OF FREEMASONRY , Article 9
HISTORY OF THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 15
THE ROUGH AND PERFECT ASHLAR, Article 19
COERRSPONDENCE Article 20
MASONIC JEWEL COLLAR. Article 24
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 25
METROPOLITAN. Article 36
PROVINCIAL Article 51
ROYAL ARCH. Article 68
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 72
MARK MASONRY. Article 76
NEW MUSIC. Article 76
SCOTLAND. Article 77
IRELAND. Article 79
COLONIAL. Article 81
AMERICA. Article 84
MASONIC FESTIVITIES Article 85
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR MAY. Article 86
Obituary. Article 91
NOTICE Article 92
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Eoyal Arch.

having been removed from the province of West Yorkshire to that of East Lancashire . On the motion that the report be received and adopted , Comp . Warren rose to express his opinion that the report of the committee relative to the memorial from St . Kitt ' s was not satisfactory . The report of the committee stated , that the St . Kitt's Chapter ceased to exist on the roll of Chapters from 1821 , from which time nothing had been heard of it until a very recent period .

Now he held in his hand a copy of the memorial , together with the correspondence attached to it ; and he found that , in 1832 , the Principals of the Mount Horeb Chapter addressed a letter to the Grand Chapter in London , in which they announced that they had recommenced working , and they proceeded to say , "We also forwarda list of our present Companions , by which your Grand and Royal Chapter will perceive that eight Companions have since then ( January , 1832 ) been exalted , with the

usual fee of five shillings sterling each for the registration of their names in your Grand and Keyal Chapter , and we respectfully and affectionately pray to be furnished with general instructions for our government , assuring your Grand and Royal Arch Chapter that we shall in all things conform to your orders and instructions . " That document was signed John Hazell , Wm . H . Male , John W . Wattley , and Wm . M . A bbott . He ( Comp . Warren ) did not find that any reply was ever given to that communication , and therefore the Companions at St . Kitt ' s

might suppose that at least their existence was tacitly acknowledged ; and if this letter were received in 1832 , how could it be said that nothing had been heard of the parties from 1821 to a very recent period ? But furthermore , he held in his hands a copy of a letter , dated St . Kitt's , on the 2 nd September , last , to Comp . Parnfield , by Comp . D . Hart , of the Royal Arch Chapter , No . 585 , in which he called attention to some personal communications on the same subject , in 1839 , seven years after the letter from which he had already read an extract . That letter said , "'The opportunity of being here at the time of this meeting being held affords

me an opportunity of also bringing under your recollection , that , in the year 1839 , myself and Comp . John Barr , then of this island , but now deceased , called at your office , to put matters right regarding the said Charter and of the past deeds . Some delay was caused , in the matter not being that day at once settled , in consequence of Bro . White being out of town ; but Comp . Barr , however , gave his number and street ( 14 , Cecil-street , Strand ) , at which he could be found and where a certificate might be sent him . On the following day , a Pro . Barton called on Bro . Barr with a document from Bro . White , as to matters of the Chapter having been duly settled , and , as far as I recollect , giving anew number to the said Charter . Bro . Barr further , and in my presence , tendered or declared

himself ready to pay any amount that might be due or owing . I am positive that the names of the then Officers of the Chapter were given in , as also the names of three Brethren that had been in that year ( 1830 ) exalted , and that a note of all of which was duly taken down . " He ( Comp . Warren ) did not wish to say more ; but had merely called attention to these documents to prove that the committee in stopping at 1821 , did not appear to have dealt with the whole matter which ought to have come under their consideration , and that the position in which the Chapter stood could not fairly be said to have been only known at a very recent period .

Comp . Henderson , G . R ., felt that the extracts which Comp . Warren had been reading were of considerable importance , and put a different face upon the matter to that which it appeared , to bear according to the report of the committee . He would therefore move that for the present the report be only received , and not adopted . It appeared that the charter was originally granted in 1793 , and that in 1817 and 1821 Grand Chapter not being able to get any information relative to it , the

charter was supposed to have been allowed to drop , and it had been since erased from their list of charters . What course should be taken with regard to subsequent events he was not yet prepared to say ; but he considered that they could not revive the old charter , and probably the best course to pursue would be for the Grand Chapter to grant the Companions a new charter if it should be deemed desirable , and recognize the Companions exalted by the issue of certificates to them .

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