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the regulations . I am sorry that it should have happened , and I hope that the Brethren will accept this acknowledgment in excuse for it . I regret , however , at the same time , that I am obliged , from the insolence which I have received on several occasions from the acting W . M . ( which will prevent my meeting him again in Lodge ) , to tender my resignation as a member of the R . C . L . "

I have not yet done with the hissing . In January last I officially attended the banquet of the B . C . L ., contrary to the expressed opinion of the members of my Lodge , who said I would certainly be insulted . I said , " Surely they will respect the Square / ' but it was not so . The conversation at the head of the table was so pointedly offensive in its character against both the G . M . and P . G . M ., that I claimed the protection of the chair ; after dinner I was pointedly hissed , because I , the senior P . M . of their own Lodge present , objected to smolcing in Masonic clothing ; and upon my retiring to tbe ante-room , the most atrocious language was used to me . I specially exempt from these charges the W . M ., and those Brethren who were members of the Lodge at the time I was their W . M . , it

appeared to be confined to the very young men recently made , who seem to be as ignorant of the B . of C . as" Justitia " is of the true principles of the Order . If this is the " comparative comfort" spoken of by " Justitia , " I can see why so many good Masons have left his Lodge to join mine . The R . S . L . would never have been resuscitated had it not been for the extraordinary and unMasonie conduct of " Justitia " and his friends ; it is a singular fact that all our resident joining members have been members of the B . C . L . " Ilinc illce lacrymo ?" With regard to the election of Prov . G-. Treasurer last year , I can only say that I

was canvassed for my vote several months before the election in favour of the unsuccessful candidate , for whom I voted ; that he was to be nominated was well known , and the merits of the two candidates were discussedpriorto the Prov . G . L , The present opposition to that officer is confined to a " clique" or section in the B . C . L ., and is well known to have arisen from a quarrel which occurred nearly two years since , between a former President of the Lodge of Instruction and the present Prov . G . T ., who remonstrated very warmly upon his having broken into the Bladud encampment when prepared for a conclaveof K . T . R . And this brings

me to the second portion of * Justitia ' s " lettei * . Having seen the oath of allegiance to the Grand Master of England administered in the Baldwyn camp of Bristol , I speak from authority when I say that that camp never claimed for itself the rank of a grand encampment . On the death of the Duke of Sussex it asserted its independence of the G . O . of England . I was present when the discussion took place ; I advocated the recognition of the present G . O . of England , but a majority ruled that as far as Bristol was concerned they were an independent camp . The first time I hear of the " Grand

Encampment of Baldwyn is in " Justitia s own letter ; he admits that " certain Sir Knights of that encampment , assisted by the only surviving Sir Knight of the dormant camp ( in Lath ) , revived it . " Pie says that "it never acknowledged any Grand Conclave ; I call upon him in his own name to give us the proofs ; I say that this assertion is simply untrue , because I have in my possession an original document , from which I extract the following : — " Conclave of Antiquity from time immemorial , constituted in the city of Bath , 1790 , under an ancient

warrant ( as above entitled ) , granted by the late T . Dunckerley , Esq ., M . E . G . M . of the Order . Bevived and reopened June 11 , 1814 , by Comp . Sir 15 . Plummer , Grand Expert of England , 11 . 11 . II . the Dulce of Kent , Grand Patron of the Order . ''' ' This document , which is dated July 14 , 1820 , is signed by Matthew Patton , the B . C ., from 'whom 1 received it ; and goes on to state that the warrant was purloined in the previous year , but that the Brethren resolved to meet without it , in compliance with an opinion id veil bv the " Camp of Baldwin . " Here the

( 1 . Conclave of England is expressly acknowledged , and I call upon " Justitia " to produce the warrant under which " certain Sir Knights" resuscitated the Cam ]) of Antiquity in Bath . About ten years ago , while on a visit to Colonel Tyntc , he told me that if I could find the lost warrant ho would give me authority to resuscitate the camp . I called together the late eminent Sir Knights Bythesea and Patton , who told mo that the camp had not met lor many years , and that the warrant was

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ON THE MYSTERIES OF THE EARLY AGES AS CONNECTED WITH RELIGION. Article 1
PRINTERS' ASYLUM. Article 5
AN INCIDENT OF THE ST. LEGER FAMILY. Article 6
THE SIGNS OF ENGLAND; Article 8
MASONRY: Article 12
REVIEWS OF NEW BOOKS. Article 13
ST. ANN'S SCHOOLS, FLORAL FETE, CREMORNE. Article 14
« PASSE." Article 15
MUSIC. Article 16
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 18
THE " MARK " DEGREE. Article 28
THE CHRISTIANITY OF MASONRY. Article 28
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 29
GRAND LODGE. Article 32
ROYAL FREE HOSPITAL, GRAY'SINN ROAD. Article 36
METROPOLITAN. Article 39
INSTRUCTION. Article 41
PROVINCIAL. Article 43
ROYAL ARCH. Article 58
KNIGHTS TEMPI AE. Article 60
SCOTLAND. Article 61
IRELAND. Article 62
INDIA. Article 63
AMERICA. Article 64
HOLLAND. Article 65
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR JUNE. Article 65
Obituary. Article 70
NOTICE. Article 72
TO COEEESPONDENTS. Article 72
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the regulations . I am sorry that it should have happened , and I hope that the Brethren will accept this acknowledgment in excuse for it . I regret , however , at the same time , that I am obliged , from the insolence which I have received on several occasions from the acting W . M . ( which will prevent my meeting him again in Lodge ) , to tender my resignation as a member of the R . C . L . "

I have not yet done with the hissing . In January last I officially attended the banquet of the B . C . L ., contrary to the expressed opinion of the members of my Lodge , who said I would certainly be insulted . I said , " Surely they will respect the Square / ' but it was not so . The conversation at the head of the table was so pointedly offensive in its character against both the G . M . and P . G . M ., that I claimed the protection of the chair ; after dinner I was pointedly hissed , because I , the senior P . M . of their own Lodge present , objected to smolcing in Masonic clothing ; and upon my retiring to tbe ante-room , the most atrocious language was used to me . I specially exempt from these charges the W . M ., and those Brethren who were members of the Lodge at the time I was their W . M . , it

appeared to be confined to the very young men recently made , who seem to be as ignorant of the B . of C . as" Justitia " is of the true principles of the Order . If this is the " comparative comfort" spoken of by " Justitia , " I can see why so many good Masons have left his Lodge to join mine . The R . S . L . would never have been resuscitated had it not been for the extraordinary and unMasonie conduct of " Justitia " and his friends ; it is a singular fact that all our resident joining members have been members of the B . C . L . " Ilinc illce lacrymo ?" With regard to the election of Prov . G-. Treasurer last year , I can only say that I

was canvassed for my vote several months before the election in favour of the unsuccessful candidate , for whom I voted ; that he was to be nominated was well known , and the merits of the two candidates were discussedpriorto the Prov . G . L , The present opposition to that officer is confined to a " clique" or section in the B . C . L ., and is well known to have arisen from a quarrel which occurred nearly two years since , between a former President of the Lodge of Instruction and the present Prov . G . T ., who remonstrated very warmly upon his having broken into the Bladud encampment when prepared for a conclaveof K . T . R . And this brings

me to the second portion of * Justitia ' s " lettei * . Having seen the oath of allegiance to the Grand Master of England administered in the Baldwyn camp of Bristol , I speak from authority when I say that that camp never claimed for itself the rank of a grand encampment . On the death of the Duke of Sussex it asserted its independence of the G . O . of England . I was present when the discussion took place ; I advocated the recognition of the present G . O . of England , but a majority ruled that as far as Bristol was concerned they were an independent camp . The first time I hear of the " Grand

Encampment of Baldwyn is in " Justitia s own letter ; he admits that " certain Sir Knights of that encampment , assisted by the only surviving Sir Knight of the dormant camp ( in Lath ) , revived it . " Pie says that "it never acknowledged any Grand Conclave ; I call upon him in his own name to give us the proofs ; I say that this assertion is simply untrue , because I have in my possession an original document , from which I extract the following : — " Conclave of Antiquity from time immemorial , constituted in the city of Bath , 1790 , under an ancient

warrant ( as above entitled ) , granted by the late T . Dunckerley , Esq ., M . E . G . M . of the Order . Bevived and reopened June 11 , 1814 , by Comp . Sir 15 . Plummer , Grand Expert of England , 11 . 11 . II . the Dulce of Kent , Grand Patron of the Order . ''' ' This document , which is dated July 14 , 1820 , is signed by Matthew Patton , the B . C ., from 'whom 1 received it ; and goes on to state that the warrant was purloined in the previous year , but that the Brethren resolved to meet without it , in compliance with an opinion id veil bv the " Camp of Baldwin . " Here the

( 1 . Conclave of England is expressly acknowledged , and I call upon " Justitia " to produce the warrant under which " certain Sir Knights" resuscitated the Cam ]) of Antiquity in Bath . About ten years ago , while on a visit to Colonel Tyntc , he told me that if I could find the lost warrant ho would give me authority to resuscitate the camp . I called together the late eminent Sir Knights Bythesea and Patton , who told mo that the camp had not met lor many years , and that the warrant was

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