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Master ' s chairs In the prov ^ aProf ^ G ^ v iuiist Pr KM > ^ Officers beyond that of being M . Ms . ]

TO THE EDITOR Of TIIE / Fi ^ M ^ BONS * - . MAGA ^ I ^ MIIlR 0 R ]> Mi Sir Ai 0 Brother , — ^ inquiry into the reasons why Grand Lodge has allowed hd # tvft * f )^ cke | i to ai ^ ye without having : given us information required , Md of so the state oiM Before prpqeedihg , ho w ^ which I allude ; .. ' :: ' . ^ . -. ' ?> ¦ : ¦ - ;• ; ,.,. ; :. ';;;

I aina ^ in 1818 frbhi ^ rahd Lodge of Englaiid . I was ihiti ^ ed , passed , ahd f ^ Lodge working under a Charter of a recognized . Grrahd Lodge , th & to which I reserve , as I do ^ n ^ the Hat-hioniP Lodg ^ w ^ candidate , in which ah Entered nlMtihg that we h ^

thus it contihtied until one e ^ nihg the W ^ he was of ppihioh tha ^ th ^ admissi ^ and it was decided " that Entered A pprehtices and Eellow ^ Oralis should Continue to ballot for candidates and members until SUcli time that Ire should teMv ^ ail answer frbhr Grand Lodge or ^ the subject ; " and the Secretary was reqli ^ sted to apply to Grand Lodge mr some decisionV

At the next regular meeting , after the minutes had been tead , one of the Brethrenwho had voted in favour of the Entered Apprentice and Eellow Craft votings stated that , oh mature consideration , he felt that none but Master ^ Ktasohs should enjoy the privileges of the ballot ; he was seconded by a Brother Who had riot been at the previous meeting . A discussion arose , and the above-named Brother held out that in America , whence they came , the ballot always took place in a Master Masons' Lodge . The Secretary argued that , being in the habit of

balloting in the Entered Apprentice degree , if Entered Apprentices were not to join in the entire work of the Lodge , it would be preferable that the American system be observed , as he was of opinion that Entered Apprentides and Fellow Crafts should not be present at any part of the work of a Master Masons * Lodge , no matter of how trivial consequence that work was . Be further argued that , according to Art . 14 , page 64 of Constitutions , 1841 ( the late edition of 1855 not

being at hand ) , every Lodge was bound to receive as a membery without further proposition or ballot , any Brother initiated therein , provided such Brother express his wish to that effect on the day of his initiation . " He wished to know if a Brother ' s privilege as a member was not that of the ballot on every question brought in the degree Lodge in which he worked ? The W . M . argued that none were full Masons until they were raised to the Sublime Degree , and that none but a Master Mason could be considered as a member . The Secretary rose in explanation , calling the attention of the Brother , that the moment a Brother

subscribed the bye-laws , and paid his fees and dues , he was , according to Constitution , to be acknowledged as a member ; and if none but Master Masons were to , be considered as members , the Lodge had no right to levy monthly quotas from the Entered Apprentice and Fellow Craft . Upon this several Brethren expressed their opinion that money matters should never be brought in as an argument in a Masonic body ! The Senior Warden wished to know , that if the Lodge was composed of but three Master Masons , two Fellow Drafts , and a dozen or more Apprentices , what course could be pursued ? The W . M * stated that , even then , hone but the thred Master Masons ! had the right of tote

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GRAND LODGE. Article 1
THE VISIBLE SYMBOLISM OF FREEMASONRY. Article 3
HERALDIC STUDIO, GREAT TURNSTILE, LINCOLN'S-INN FIELDS. Article 10
STUDIO Article 11
THE ORDER OF THE TEMPLE IN FRANCE. Article 12
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 18
THE SUN IS SOMEWHERE SHINING. Article 27
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 28
mpnthfs, or perhaps e i ghteen months^ a... Article 37
METROPOLITAN. Article 43
PROVINCIAL Article 47
KENT. Article 60
ROYAL ARCH. Article 76
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 78
THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 80
MARK MASONRY. Article 80
SCOTLAND. Article 83
AMERICA Article 86
THE GIRLS' SCHOOL. Article 88
MONUMENTAL BRASSES. Article 89
BARTHOLOMEW'S HOSPITAL. Article 89
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR JUNE Article 90
Obituary. Article 95
NOTICE. Article 96
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Igj^Piipiii^^

Master ' s chairs In the prov ^ aProf ^ G ^ v iuiist Pr KM > ^ Officers beyond that of being M . Ms . ]

TO THE EDITOR Of TIIE / Fi ^ M ^ BONS * - . MAGA ^ I ^ MIIlR 0 R ]> Mi Sir Ai 0 Brother , — ^ inquiry into the reasons why Grand Lodge has allowed hd # tvft * f )^ cke | i to ai ^ ye without having : given us information required , Md of so the state oiM Before prpqeedihg , ho w ^ which I allude ; .. ' :: ' . ^ . -. ' ?> ¦ : ¦ - ;• ; ,.,. ; :. ';;;

I aina ^ in 1818 frbhi ^ rahd Lodge of Englaiid . I was ihiti ^ ed , passed , ahd f ^ Lodge working under a Charter of a recognized . Grrahd Lodge , th & to which I reserve , as I do ^ n ^ the Hat-hioniP Lodg ^ w ^ candidate , in which ah Entered nlMtihg that we h ^

thus it contihtied until one e ^ nihg the W ^ he was of ppihioh tha ^ th ^ admissi ^ and it was decided " that Entered A pprehtices and Eellow ^ Oralis should Continue to ballot for candidates and members until SUcli time that Ire should teMv ^ ail answer frbhr Grand Lodge or ^ the subject ; " and the Secretary was reqli ^ sted to apply to Grand Lodge mr some decisionV

At the next regular meeting , after the minutes had been tead , one of the Brethrenwho had voted in favour of the Entered Apprentice and Eellow Craft votings stated that , oh mature consideration , he felt that none but Master ^ Ktasohs should enjoy the privileges of the ballot ; he was seconded by a Brother Who had riot been at the previous meeting . A discussion arose , and the above-named Brother held out that in America , whence they came , the ballot always took place in a Master Masons' Lodge . The Secretary argued that , being in the habit of

balloting in the Entered Apprentice degree , if Entered Apprentices were not to join in the entire work of the Lodge , it would be preferable that the American system be observed , as he was of opinion that Entered Apprentides and Fellow Crafts should not be present at any part of the work of a Master Masons * Lodge , no matter of how trivial consequence that work was . Be further argued that , according to Art . 14 , page 64 of Constitutions , 1841 ( the late edition of 1855 not

being at hand ) , every Lodge was bound to receive as a membery without further proposition or ballot , any Brother initiated therein , provided such Brother express his wish to that effect on the day of his initiation . " He wished to know if a Brother ' s privilege as a member was not that of the ballot on every question brought in the degree Lodge in which he worked ? The W . M . argued that none were full Masons until they were raised to the Sublime Degree , and that none but a Master Mason could be considered as a member . The Secretary rose in explanation , calling the attention of the Brother , that the moment a Brother

subscribed the bye-laws , and paid his fees and dues , he was , according to Constitution , to be acknowledged as a member ; and if none but Master Masons were to , be considered as members , the Lodge had no right to levy monthly quotas from the Entered Apprentice and Fellow Craft . Upon this several Brethren expressed their opinion that money matters should never be brought in as an argument in a Masonic body ! The Senior Warden wished to know , that if the Lodge was composed of but three Master Masons , two Fellow Drafts , and a dozen or more Apprentices , what course could be pursued ? The W . M * stated that , even then , hone but the thred Master Masons ! had the right of tote

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