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P . 8 ., July % 5 th . —I had intended to ha \ re sent the foregoing in time for insertion in your July number , but Bro . Barr ' s friends in Edinburgh wished me to delay it till he could be communicated with . The fellow who had assumed his name , obtained possession of the certificate from the Grand Lodge of Scotland by writing to the Grand Secretary from London that all his effects had been destroyed by the fire at Covent Garden Theatre , and requested that another certificate should

ceedings , which I have to request you will insert in the next number of your Magazine , will in some measure frustrate his designs . —I am , dear Sir and Brother , yours truly and faternally , Thomas James , Walsall , June 11 th , 1856 . P . M . No . 786 , W . M . No . 960 .

be sent to him , which request was unfortunately complied with , as by means of that certificate he imposed on a considerable number of the Craft . I have now received through !§ ro . W . Bryce , Tyler , Grand Lodge of Scotland , a letter from the real Bro . William Barr , dated New York , July 1 st , with his original Grand Lodge certificate , which he says has never been out of his possession , and is at a loss to account for the manner in which the exact dates , & c , had been obtained . The only conclusion he can arrive at is , that as it is generally suspended in his

store , a copy of it must have been taken by one of-two persons who have left New York , and who were in the habit of frequenting his ^ ore . No doubt the fellow in Stafford prison was the man ; the name is certainly assumed , as Bro . Bryce , having an extensive knowledge of the Masons in and around Edinburgh for a number of years past , never knew but one of the name of Barr , which is his friend in America . If any Brother who has been imposed on by this fellow would wish to see the documents now in my possession , I will send them to your office or to Bro . Spencer ' s for their inspection .

We have been requested to publish the following Correspondence , as a caution to the Brethren : — My dear Sir , —A female , stating herself to be the widow of James Mackie , formerly a member of No . 65 , has presented herself here to-day , requesting relief to assist her in going out to Australia . I offered to write to the Lodge , which she

was evidently unwilling I should do , and having been many times victimized , I declined assistance without , Will you do me the favour to let me know whether you are acquainted with the case ? The certificate she handed me was a Scotch one , but I very foolishly did not make a copy . Pray excuse the trouble I am giving you , and believe me , Dear Sir , Yours truly ,

11 th August , 1856 . John Hervey . A . Bannister , Esq ., Hull . P . S . —I think the same woman has visited me more than once before .

My dear Sir , —I have your always-esteemed favour of yesterday . In reply , I beg to say the widow of James Mackie is not known to us here ; he never belonged to No . 05 , nor have we the slightest knowledge of him or her . You must not let your good-nature be over generous with the parties calling themselves poor Masons ; if you do , you will never have your hands out of your pocket . I always make it a rule never to give except through the Lodge . Yours very truly ,

Hull , August 12 th , 1356 . A . Bannister . John Hkuvey , Esq ., 84 , King William-street . P . iS . —Since writing the above , I have got the enclosed from our Treasurer : —• Dear Sir and Brother , —I find in my book a James Mackie applied to mc for assistance to go out to Australia , May 8 th , 1854 , and ho produced a

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TO THE OCEAN. Article 14
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Cokbesponmince.

P . 8 ., July % 5 th . —I had intended to ha \ re sent the foregoing in time for insertion in your July number , but Bro . Barr ' s friends in Edinburgh wished me to delay it till he could be communicated with . The fellow who had assumed his name , obtained possession of the certificate from the Grand Lodge of Scotland by writing to the Grand Secretary from London that all his effects had been destroyed by the fire at Covent Garden Theatre , and requested that another certificate should

ceedings , which I have to request you will insert in the next number of your Magazine , will in some measure frustrate his designs . —I am , dear Sir and Brother , yours truly and faternally , Thomas James , Walsall , June 11 th , 1856 . P . M . No . 786 , W . M . No . 960 .

be sent to him , which request was unfortunately complied with , as by means of that certificate he imposed on a considerable number of the Craft . I have now received through !§ ro . W . Bryce , Tyler , Grand Lodge of Scotland , a letter from the real Bro . William Barr , dated New York , July 1 st , with his original Grand Lodge certificate , which he says has never been out of his possession , and is at a loss to account for the manner in which the exact dates , & c , had been obtained . The only conclusion he can arrive at is , that as it is generally suspended in his

store , a copy of it must have been taken by one of-two persons who have left New York , and who were in the habit of frequenting his ^ ore . No doubt the fellow in Stafford prison was the man ; the name is certainly assumed , as Bro . Bryce , having an extensive knowledge of the Masons in and around Edinburgh for a number of years past , never knew but one of the name of Barr , which is his friend in America . If any Brother who has been imposed on by this fellow would wish to see the documents now in my possession , I will send them to your office or to Bro . Spencer ' s for their inspection .

We have been requested to publish the following Correspondence , as a caution to the Brethren : — My dear Sir , —A female , stating herself to be the widow of James Mackie , formerly a member of No . 65 , has presented herself here to-day , requesting relief to assist her in going out to Australia . I offered to write to the Lodge , which she

was evidently unwilling I should do , and having been many times victimized , I declined assistance without , Will you do me the favour to let me know whether you are acquainted with the case ? The certificate she handed me was a Scotch one , but I very foolishly did not make a copy . Pray excuse the trouble I am giving you , and believe me , Dear Sir , Yours truly ,

11 th August , 1856 . John Hervey . A . Bannister , Esq ., Hull . P . S . —I think the same woman has visited me more than once before .

My dear Sir , —I have your always-esteemed favour of yesterday . In reply , I beg to say the widow of James Mackie is not known to us here ; he never belonged to No . 05 , nor have we the slightest knowledge of him or her . You must not let your good-nature be over generous with the parties calling themselves poor Masons ; if you do , you will never have your hands out of your pocket . I always make it a rule never to give except through the Lodge . Yours very truly ,

Hull , August 12 th , 1356 . A . Bannister . John Hkuvey , Esq ., 84 , King William-street . P . iS . —Since writing the above , I have got the enclosed from our Treasurer : —• Dear Sir and Brother , —I find in my book a James Mackie applied to mc for assistance to go out to Australia , May 8 th , 1854 , and ho produced a

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