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better stay away from * my Lodge , for as a visitor he was always creating a disturbance by addressing the chair upon all matters under discussion , and much ill feeling was the result . However , he came : he sat on the right of the W . M . and I on the left , and we were surrounded by many Brethren of the highest rank from the province of Bristol ; we were all joking Dr . Tunstall about his having transferred his allegiance , as a member of the Camp of Baidwyn , to Colonel Tynte . This subject made him very sore , and he appealed to the W . M . for protection , which was granted to him as a matter of courtesy . After the Brethren had been at the table four hours ( having previously been at the Lodge for three hours ) , some of their number ,, by permission of the S . W . —including gentlemen of high standing in society , one a nobleman , —lit their cigars ; upon which Dr . Tunstall

rose and begged that they might be put out , which was at once acceded to , and an apology tendered by Bro . Bagshawe . A short time afterwards the health of the Lodge No . 61 was proposed , and Dr . Tunstall rose and prefaced his remarks by saying "That , as a P . M . of No . 48 " ( mar \ not as W . M . of No . 61 , or as our guest ) , " he told the Brethren that they did not come there to smoke , and if they wanted so to do , Odd Fellows' Lodges and the bar of the inn were open to those who wished to do so ; " forgetting in his charity that during dinner , and up to the time he was

speaking , he had indulged rather copiously , as is his wont , in snuff-taking ; thus using tobacco in another form . Now , after this gratuitous insult had been offered to the S . W ., who had apologized for giving permission to Brethren to smoke , I own that three of the youngest members of my Lodge did involuntarily hiss Dr . Tunstall ; and although he deserved to be ejected from the room , I rose , out of deference to his age , and asked the W . M . to request his Dir . Cer . to lead the offending Brethren from the table ; but this our guest , who by his discourtesy had called down upon himself the angry feelings of a few Brethren , would not

permit . I leave the cause of the Camp of Antiquity of Knights Templar and the Bose Crucis Chapter attached thereto by Dunckerley himself , in 1793 , in the hands of our acting G-. M ., and if Dr . Tunstall or any one else has aught to say , let them appeal to him as the head of the Grand Commandery from time immemorial . I can only , in taking leave of Dr . Tunstall , hope that at this late period of his life , his heart has been imbued for some wise purpose with the principles of Masonry , which has induced him to show that light to his Brethren as a true

Christian , sans peur and sans reproche , which during his lengthened Masonic career has , I am sorry to say , hitherto been hid under a bushel . The postscript to his letter , however , almost forbids the hope . What affinity there is between the purple and Knight Templarism I know not , and if the Prov . G . M . brings his prejudices as G . M . of that Order into his Prov . Grand Lodge , I maintain that he violates the Constitutions . As a proof that this feeling operates , I may mention , that when we applied to Colonel Tynte for a dispensation , Bro . Vigne ( who boasts that he can do what he likes with the Prov . G . M . ) called upon the Brother upon whose

behalf the application was made , and ashed him if fie belonged to my camp , as it was necessary this should be known before an answer was given ! Surely these facts need no comment , and , I opine , Colonel Tynte v ^ ill not thank his Bayarddike champion for compromising him so much in the eyes of the world . My answer to Dr . Falconer must necessarily be brief , inasmuch as he confirms

nearly all that Justitia" stated . If Dr . Falconer fancies there is an intimate connection between that individual and myself , I opine that the idea can emanate only from his prolific imagination . Now I unequivocally affirm that Dr . Falconer told me that tradesmen had no right to visit gentlemen ' s Lodges , and that it was an act of condescension on the part of a gentleman to visit a Lodge of tradesmen . This was uttered to me in the coffee-room of the Castle Hotel when I was S . W .

of No . 48 , prior to our departure to attend Prov . Grand Lodge at Shepton Mallet in 1853 . This speech , so much in violation of every principle of Masonry , and coming as it did from the W . M . of No . 528 , surprised me not a little . I could not understand it , and consequently have only visited his gentlemen ' s Lodge four or five times at the outside , and I can answer for every member of No . 48 , many of whom are of higher standing in society than Dr . Falconer , that they have never in or out of Lodge thrust themselves upon the society of any member of

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THE MARK DEGREE. Article 1
PENCILLINGS FROM THE SKETCH-BOOK OF A MADRAS OFFICER. Article 3
THE MONK OF ST. DUNSTAN. Article 10
A MASONIC BURIAL AT SEA. Article 13
MASONIC BONG. Article 14
TO THE OCEAN. Article 14
REVIEWS OF UEW BOOKS. Article 15
MUSIC. Article 18
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 20
MASONS IN THEIR HOURS OF RELAXATION. Article 29
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 30
METROPOLITAN. Article 31
PROVINCIAL. Article 32
SURREY. Article 46
ROYAL ARCH. Article 50
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 53
MARK MASONRY. Article 53
SCOTLAND. Article 54
COLONIAL. Article 55
INDIA. Article 56
AMERICA. Article 58
SUMMARY OE NEWS FOR AUGUST. Article 61
Obituary. Article 63
NOTICE. Article 64
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Cokbesponmince.

better stay away from * my Lodge , for as a visitor he was always creating a disturbance by addressing the chair upon all matters under discussion , and much ill feeling was the result . However , he came : he sat on the right of the W . M . and I on the left , and we were surrounded by many Brethren of the highest rank from the province of Bristol ; we were all joking Dr . Tunstall about his having transferred his allegiance , as a member of the Camp of Baidwyn , to Colonel Tynte . This subject made him very sore , and he appealed to the W . M . for protection , which was granted to him as a matter of courtesy . After the Brethren had been at the table four hours ( having previously been at the Lodge for three hours ) , some of their number ,, by permission of the S . W . —including gentlemen of high standing in society , one a nobleman , —lit their cigars ; upon which Dr . Tunstall

rose and begged that they might be put out , which was at once acceded to , and an apology tendered by Bro . Bagshawe . A short time afterwards the health of the Lodge No . 61 was proposed , and Dr . Tunstall rose and prefaced his remarks by saying "That , as a P . M . of No . 48 " ( mar \ not as W . M . of No . 61 , or as our guest ) , " he told the Brethren that they did not come there to smoke , and if they wanted so to do , Odd Fellows' Lodges and the bar of the inn were open to those who wished to do so ; " forgetting in his charity that during dinner , and up to the time he was

speaking , he had indulged rather copiously , as is his wont , in snuff-taking ; thus using tobacco in another form . Now , after this gratuitous insult had been offered to the S . W ., who had apologized for giving permission to Brethren to smoke , I own that three of the youngest members of my Lodge did involuntarily hiss Dr . Tunstall ; and although he deserved to be ejected from the room , I rose , out of deference to his age , and asked the W . M . to request his Dir . Cer . to lead the offending Brethren from the table ; but this our guest , who by his discourtesy had called down upon himself the angry feelings of a few Brethren , would not

permit . I leave the cause of the Camp of Antiquity of Knights Templar and the Bose Crucis Chapter attached thereto by Dunckerley himself , in 1793 , in the hands of our acting G-. M ., and if Dr . Tunstall or any one else has aught to say , let them appeal to him as the head of the Grand Commandery from time immemorial . I can only , in taking leave of Dr . Tunstall , hope that at this late period of his life , his heart has been imbued for some wise purpose with the principles of Masonry , which has induced him to show that light to his Brethren as a true

Christian , sans peur and sans reproche , which during his lengthened Masonic career has , I am sorry to say , hitherto been hid under a bushel . The postscript to his letter , however , almost forbids the hope . What affinity there is between the purple and Knight Templarism I know not , and if the Prov . G . M . brings his prejudices as G . M . of that Order into his Prov . Grand Lodge , I maintain that he violates the Constitutions . As a proof that this feeling operates , I may mention , that when we applied to Colonel Tynte for a dispensation , Bro . Vigne ( who boasts that he can do what he likes with the Prov . G . M . ) called upon the Brother upon whose

behalf the application was made , and ashed him if fie belonged to my camp , as it was necessary this should be known before an answer was given ! Surely these facts need no comment , and , I opine , Colonel Tynte v ^ ill not thank his Bayarddike champion for compromising him so much in the eyes of the world . My answer to Dr . Falconer must necessarily be brief , inasmuch as he confirms

nearly all that Justitia" stated . If Dr . Falconer fancies there is an intimate connection between that individual and myself , I opine that the idea can emanate only from his prolific imagination . Now I unequivocally affirm that Dr . Falconer told me that tradesmen had no right to visit gentlemen ' s Lodges , and that it was an act of condescension on the part of a gentleman to visit a Lodge of tradesmen . This was uttered to me in the coffee-room of the Castle Hotel when I was S . W .

of No . 48 , prior to our departure to attend Prov . Grand Lodge at Shepton Mallet in 1853 . This speech , so much in violation of every principle of Masonry , and coming as it did from the W . M . of No . 528 , surprised me not a little . I could not understand it , and consequently have only visited his gentlemen ' s Lodge four or five times at the outside , and I can answer for every member of No . 48 , many of whom are of higher standing in society than Dr . Falconer , that they have never in or out of Lodge thrust themselves upon the society of any member of

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