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side is three ; " but I would beg to remind the author , that in the book of Bevelation , to which he refers , the number 666 is distin ^^ which is not ipoken of in the most flattering terms in the context . Surely our Bro . Gillespie would fitft have it understood that Breemaspnry is a sign of the beast ; but if he be desirous of learning what others have thought of its trinitarian character , I would refer him to a work on that subject by George Stuart

Hawthorne , M . D ., of Liverpool , published in 1851 , by E . T . Whitfield , from which I think he will learn that the expressions used in 1 Kings x . 14 , and 2 Chron . ix . 18 , are not exactly equivalent to or rather not the same as the nuinber given in the Bevelation . Apologizing for thus far troubling you with my remarks , I beg to conclude by presenting you with aMasonic song , * which I really think is more in character with your publication than the paper I have been examining , and I remain , ¦¦ ; , ; " - " ; Yours faithfully and fraternally , Wolverhampton , Sept . 2 , 1857 . B . M . and B . Brov . G , J . D .

THE COLONIES . TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE' AND MA 30 NIC MIRROR . Sir and Brother , —In respect to the observations of ' - '" . Junior Warden , No . 585 , —you state that " Bro . Aria had more than once asserted , even in Grrand Lodge , that he so took the Mark Degree in Jamaica , and had at a recent meeting of Mark Masons distinctly stated that in the West Indies the Degree was almost universally worked in connection with the Craft Lodges . " Bro . Aria ' s remarks

or assertions can alone appertain to Jamaica , as I can confidently assert that in the windward West-India colonies , the practice does not exist . The Mark Degree is given in some of the islands , but under the warrant of Boyal A rch Chapters from Scotland . So much for Bro . Aria s and Bro . Warren ' s assertions . But , Sir and Brother , the fact having been so prominently brought under the notice of Grand Lodge , how is it that notice was not taken of so glaring an irregularity ? Where were your Masonic disciplinarians ? Why did the M . W . G . M . allow such

assertions to go unnoticed , particularly as he had already shown his dislike of uniting the Mark to the Fellow-Craft Degree ? This I suppose will be noticed by-and-by . Now , as regards your remarks of Si They ought to be able to decide by their own minute-book" permit me to inform you that , had the minute-book been in the possession of the Lodge , the Grand Secretary would not have been troubled ; but unfortunately such is not the case , owing to the late W . M . having retained in his possession all the books and papers of the Lodge , which he has refused and

does continue to refuse to deliver up , for which offence he has been excluded from the Lodge—the only alternative of authority possessed as a punishment—as the conduct of that Brother was at the time reported to the Grand Secretary , but no further assistance was given than that of " regretting the circumstance . " Until the M . W . G . M . appoints Brov . G . Ms , for the Colonies , continual irregularities must exist . Why , what do you think of Trinity Lodge , No . 837 , under the registry of the Grand Lodge of England , practising what are termed physical trials on a

candidate ? Pray , who is to put this down ? And for your further information , there is a person at Angostura who declares himself to be Brov . G . M ., although no such appointment has been made . These acts of notoriety haveJaeen made known to Bro . Clarke , Grand Secretary—the result will be known perhaps next year . And after all , even allowing that the Grand Lodge does know it .

how can they remedy It without a proper officer to enforce obedience ? I say they cannot , and therefore the sooner some remedy is adopted the better for the good of the Craft . Yours fraternally , Trinidad , ZOth Jidy , 1857 . H n

* " The Spirit of Masonry " appears in another part of the Magazine

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1857-10-01, Page 28” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 12 May 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/frm_01101857/page/28/.
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GRAND LODGE AND THE CANADAS. Article 1
CHIVALRY. Article 4
THE STRANGER, THE FATHERLESS, AND THE WIDOW. Article 12
MASONIC EXCURSION TO BOSLIN CASTLE. Article 13
CORRESPONDENCE Article 27
THE SPIRIT OF MASONRY. Article 31
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 32
METROPOLITAN. Article 45
PROVINCIAL. Article 47
ROYAL ARCH. Article 61
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR Article 62
MARK MASONRY Article 62
SCOTLAND Article 66
COLONIAL. Article 68
AMERICA Article 73
INDIA. Article 74
The choice of Smyrna as a site for a British hospital during the late war has been, under Providence* the means of planting Masonry in a truly rich soil. Amongst the civil and military staff attached to the important station were a few most zealous Brethren, who, under great difficulties, managed to muster enough to work: as a Lodge of Instruction, as often a quiet evening could be taken from the urgent duties of the hospital. One by one Brethren were discovered, of various languages and nationalities; but so powerful had been the social persecution—to TURKEY. Article 76
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR SEPTEMBER Article 76
Obituary. Article 80
NOTICE. Article 83
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Coreespondmce

side is three ; " but I would beg to remind the author , that in the book of Bevelation , to which he refers , the number 666 is distin ^^ which is not ipoken of in the most flattering terms in the context . Surely our Bro . Gillespie would fitft have it understood that Breemaspnry is a sign of the beast ; but if he be desirous of learning what others have thought of its trinitarian character , I would refer him to a work on that subject by George Stuart

Hawthorne , M . D ., of Liverpool , published in 1851 , by E . T . Whitfield , from which I think he will learn that the expressions used in 1 Kings x . 14 , and 2 Chron . ix . 18 , are not exactly equivalent to or rather not the same as the nuinber given in the Bevelation . Apologizing for thus far troubling you with my remarks , I beg to conclude by presenting you with aMasonic song , * which I really think is more in character with your publication than the paper I have been examining , and I remain , ¦¦ ; , ; " - " ; Yours faithfully and fraternally , Wolverhampton , Sept . 2 , 1857 . B . M . and B . Brov . G , J . D .

THE COLONIES . TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE' AND MA 30 NIC MIRROR . Sir and Brother , —In respect to the observations of ' - '" . Junior Warden , No . 585 , —you state that " Bro . Aria had more than once asserted , even in Grrand Lodge , that he so took the Mark Degree in Jamaica , and had at a recent meeting of Mark Masons distinctly stated that in the West Indies the Degree was almost universally worked in connection with the Craft Lodges . " Bro . Aria ' s remarks

or assertions can alone appertain to Jamaica , as I can confidently assert that in the windward West-India colonies , the practice does not exist . The Mark Degree is given in some of the islands , but under the warrant of Boyal A rch Chapters from Scotland . So much for Bro . Aria s and Bro . Warren ' s assertions . But , Sir and Brother , the fact having been so prominently brought under the notice of Grand Lodge , how is it that notice was not taken of so glaring an irregularity ? Where were your Masonic disciplinarians ? Why did the M . W . G . M . allow such

assertions to go unnoticed , particularly as he had already shown his dislike of uniting the Mark to the Fellow-Craft Degree ? This I suppose will be noticed by-and-by . Now , as regards your remarks of Si They ought to be able to decide by their own minute-book" permit me to inform you that , had the minute-book been in the possession of the Lodge , the Grand Secretary would not have been troubled ; but unfortunately such is not the case , owing to the late W . M . having retained in his possession all the books and papers of the Lodge , which he has refused and

does continue to refuse to deliver up , for which offence he has been excluded from the Lodge—the only alternative of authority possessed as a punishment—as the conduct of that Brother was at the time reported to the Grand Secretary , but no further assistance was given than that of " regretting the circumstance . " Until the M . W . G . M . appoints Brov . G . Ms , for the Colonies , continual irregularities must exist . Why , what do you think of Trinity Lodge , No . 837 , under the registry of the Grand Lodge of England , practising what are termed physical trials on a

candidate ? Pray , who is to put this down ? And for your further information , there is a person at Angostura who declares himself to be Brov . G . M ., although no such appointment has been made . These acts of notoriety haveJaeen made known to Bro . Clarke , Grand Secretary—the result will be known perhaps next year . And after all , even allowing that the Grand Lodge does know it .

how can they remedy It without a proper officer to enforce obedience ? I say they cannot , and therefore the sooner some remedy is adopted the better for the good of the Craft . Yours fraternally , Trinidad , ZOth Jidy , 1857 . H n

* " The Spirit of Masonry " appears in another part of the Magazine

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