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The Masonic Mirror
Bro . Binckes : " If your lordship rules that I am but of order / I will sit down . " The G . M . : "If you carry your motion , it will amount to the rejection of the report of the Colonial Board altogether . " Bro . Binckes : "I am prepared to take the responsibility of doing that , if it is forced upon me . ( Loud cries of / Time ! time ] ' ) I shall now proceed to the second portion of my argument , and' '———
Bro . Roxburgh : " Really , Most Worshipful Sir , I rise to order . ( Hear , and laughter . ) Is there any question now before Grand Lodge ? " ( Hear , hear . ) The G . M . ; "My feeling is as , I have said , that this motion will go to the non-confirmation of the whole of the report . " Bro . Binckes : " If I can do nothing else , I will move the non-confirmation of
the minutes generally . ( Laughter , and 'Oh , oh . ' ) It is plain that the opinions of certain Brethren on the dais are allowed to carry that weight which should attach only to the dictum of the M . W . the G . M . ( Hear , hear , and confusion , ) I beg to move that the minutes of the last Quarterly Communication of this Grand Lodge be not confirmed . " ( Hear , hear , and cries of "¦ Time / ' )"'
Bro . Benson seconded the motion , on the ground that such a motion as that of Bro . Havers was totally irregular , and could only have been put in the shape of an amendment . Everything that followed that motion was consequently informal and invalid . He appealed to the G . M . as to the practice of the legislature on this point . Bro . Havers said that Bro . Binckes , with a determination and good-feeling -which did him credit , had invited Brethren to conduct this discussion in a manner
becoming gentlemen and Masons ; but in the course of his observations he bad applied to the mover of the resolution the terms "Jesuitical" and " snakelike . " lie , Bro . Havers , was no Jesuit ( hear and laughter ) , and he had never sought to attain his objects by " covert " means . ( Hear , hear , and applause . ) Bro . Havers resumed : " It is also unfair of Bro . Binckes to quote as authoritative the Magazine
reports which have been often complained of ; and , till of recent years , it has been in the habit of leaving out the 6 points' and all the arguments unfavourable to its views ( Oh , oh , and laughter ) , and made what we said appear frivolous in the eyes of the public . I never stated that it was ' monstrous' to do this , that , or the other , and f " — Bro . Binckes : "I rise to order . He speaks of a Magazine , and there are two ,
and "—
Bro . Havers : " There are two , and one is better than the other . " ( Hear , and laughter . ) Bro . Binckes ( very warmly ) : " This is a direct personal and uncalled for attack on the part of Bro . Havers , which I am not prepared to submit to . I will submit to all lawfully constituted Masonic authorities , but I will never submit to be
bullied by " The remainder of the sentence was lost amidst the impatience and confusion of the Brethren . Bro . Beadon protested against such language , and hoped the Grand Lodge was not to be made a bear-garden . Bro . Binckes rose again , but what he said could not be heard on the opposite side of the Hall , where our reporter was situated . The G . M . called Bro . Binckes to order , and said he was sorry he had not done so before . The term "Jesuitical" was offensive , and calculated to promote warmth , which it might be difficult to repress . ( Applause . ) Bro . Binckes then apologized for the language he had used , and Bro . Havers
duly accepted the apology . Bro . Havers said that what he meant with respect to the two Masonic periodicals was , that one * was now much more truthful than the other , which imputed to him statements which never entered his head . But while one was more truthful than the other , both had been very near the truth of lato . Bro . Havers then went on to explain that in order to avoid offence , he had been very careful
* The Freemasons Magazine
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The Masonic Mirror
Bro . Binckes : " If your lordship rules that I am but of order / I will sit down . " The G . M . : "If you carry your motion , it will amount to the rejection of the report of the Colonial Board altogether . " Bro . Binckes : "I am prepared to take the responsibility of doing that , if it is forced upon me . ( Loud cries of / Time ! time ] ' ) I shall now proceed to the second portion of my argument , and' '———
Bro . Roxburgh : " Really , Most Worshipful Sir , I rise to order . ( Hear , and laughter . ) Is there any question now before Grand Lodge ? " ( Hear , hear . ) The G . M . ; "My feeling is as , I have said , that this motion will go to the non-confirmation of the whole of the report . " Bro . Binckes : " If I can do nothing else , I will move the non-confirmation of
the minutes generally . ( Laughter , and 'Oh , oh . ' ) It is plain that the opinions of certain Brethren on the dais are allowed to carry that weight which should attach only to the dictum of the M . W . the G . M . ( Hear , hear , and confusion , ) I beg to move that the minutes of the last Quarterly Communication of this Grand Lodge be not confirmed . " ( Hear , hear , and cries of "¦ Time / ' )"'
Bro . Benson seconded the motion , on the ground that such a motion as that of Bro . Havers was totally irregular , and could only have been put in the shape of an amendment . Everything that followed that motion was consequently informal and invalid . He appealed to the G . M . as to the practice of the legislature on this point . Bro . Havers said that Bro . Binckes , with a determination and good-feeling -which did him credit , had invited Brethren to conduct this discussion in a manner
becoming gentlemen and Masons ; but in the course of his observations he bad applied to the mover of the resolution the terms "Jesuitical" and " snakelike . " lie , Bro . Havers , was no Jesuit ( hear and laughter ) , and he had never sought to attain his objects by " covert " means . ( Hear , hear , and applause . ) Bro . Havers resumed : " It is also unfair of Bro . Binckes to quote as authoritative the Magazine
reports which have been often complained of ; and , till of recent years , it has been in the habit of leaving out the 6 points' and all the arguments unfavourable to its views ( Oh , oh , and laughter ) , and made what we said appear frivolous in the eyes of the public . I never stated that it was ' monstrous' to do this , that , or the other , and f " — Bro . Binckes : "I rise to order . He speaks of a Magazine , and there are two ,
and "—
Bro . Havers : " There are two , and one is better than the other . " ( Hear , and laughter . ) Bro . Binckes ( very warmly ) : " This is a direct personal and uncalled for attack on the part of Bro . Havers , which I am not prepared to submit to . I will submit to all lawfully constituted Masonic authorities , but I will never submit to be
bullied by " The remainder of the sentence was lost amidst the impatience and confusion of the Brethren . Bro . Beadon protested against such language , and hoped the Grand Lodge was not to be made a bear-garden . Bro . Binckes rose again , but what he said could not be heard on the opposite side of the Hall , where our reporter was situated . The G . M . called Bro . Binckes to order , and said he was sorry he had not done so before . The term "Jesuitical" was offensive , and calculated to promote warmth , which it might be difficult to repress . ( Applause . ) Bro . Binckes then apologized for the language he had used , and Bro . Havers
duly accepted the apology . Bro . Havers said that what he meant with respect to the two Masonic periodicals was , that one * was now much more truthful than the other , which imputed to him statements which never entered his head . But while one was more truthful than the other , both had been very near the truth of lato . Bro . Havers then went on to explain that in order to avoid offence , he had been very careful
* The Freemasons Magazine