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Masonic Notes And Queries.

WliHX AM ) MASONIC HISTORY' . -V doubter has addressed the following letter to the Building News , of May 20 th : — " . Sir , —lu a very interesting article on page 1 , 02 , 5 , of your List year's volume , entitled , ' Freemasonry and Architecture , ' the writer litis stated that 'Wren was ( irand Master of England , and that be held a Lodge in regular working throughout the building of St . Paul's . ' 1 know that the usual histories of Freemasons assert this mastershi factbut do not ive authoritfor doingI inclined

p as a , gany y so . am to doubt it for two reasons : —first , that there was no office of Grand Master until alter the year 1717 , when the four Lodges then in Loudon met together , and constituted themselves a ' Grand Lodge , ' which was after Sir C . "Wren had given up bis interest in the association ; and , secondly , that "Wren was not made a Freemason until iG' 91 . ( See flalliwelPs Early History of Freemasonry , ISM , page 40 ) . This - date is long after the commencement of building St . Paul ' s ( 1675 ) , and therefore ho could hardly ' have held a Lodge in regular working . ' 1 believe I have seen some notices of there having beeu a Lodge of working Masons at St . Paul's , but of this

course has no connexion with the Freemasons who , even at that time , comprised little else than jovial clubs of good fellowship , regardless of practical experience . If these few lines should meet the eye of any of your readers who may be versed in the history of the Order , I should be glad of seeing a satisfactory reply ; ,-md if he can refer me to some historical documents which will testify to . ( 'harles II . and "William III . having belonged to the Freemasons , as usserted , I . shall be greatly oblied for tho information . After much research , my own opinion is , that there is no authority whatever for the statements ; that , in fact , the history of

Freemasonry requires to be wholly rewritten , and cleared from tho absurd stories put forward by Anderson , Preston , Oliver , and their followers . " I am , & c , "As ARCHITECT , "

What the editor of the Building News may say to "An Architect , " rcnuuiis to ke seen , but wc do not suppose any brother will think it necessary ti > afford any answer as to the working of the Lodge of Antiquity . With regard to his doubt of Wren's Grand Mastership of England , this originates in his notion , that as four of the Lodges iti London elected a Grand Master in 1717 , no Grand Master could have existed before . Perhaps he supposes no Lodge existed before that date .

There is no call for Masons to open their records to an architect , any move than to the rest of the public ; but we are not surprised that any man ol ordinary historical knowledge should characterize the stories put forward by Anderson , Preston , Oliver , and their followers , as absurd , MASONIC SONG BOOKS . At Sb 9 of the Freemasons'' Magazinefor 185 Sis a interesting

p . , , , very list of Masonic song books , in illustration of the Entered Apprentice song . We think it may be useful to give this list , with some extension , dames Audcrson , Book of Constitutions , -ito . London , 1723 . Constitutions , Ito . Philadelphia , ly . 'll . dames Calender's Masonic Odes and Songs , 8 vo . London , 1758 . The Secrets of the Freemasons Ecvealed , Ito . London , 1759 . The Pocket Companion , 12 mo . London , 1702 .

Wyld ' s Songs of Masonry , 8 vo . London , 17 ( il . The Freemasons' Pocket Companion , 12 mo . Glasgow , 177 . 1 . Wilson's Collection of Masonic Songs , 12 nio . London , 17 SS . Masonic Songs , 21 mo . Waterford , N . Y ., 1789 . Preston's Illustrations of Masonry , 8 vo . London , 1775 . Koortliouck ' s Anderson ' s Constitutions , Ito . London , 1781 , 3 U

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MASONIC MISSIONS. Article 1
PRIESTLY INTOLERANCE. Article 11
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 16
HUMAN LIFE Article 19
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 20
BRO. WARREN AND THE GRAND LODGE CLUB. Article 22
REFORMED MASONIC ORDER OF MEMPHIS. Article 23
"JUSTITIA" AND THE OBSERVER FACTION. Article 26
ALLEGED DISCOURTESY TO BRETHREN FROM ABROAD. Article 26
MASONIC MEMS. Article 28
PROVINCIAL. Article 35
MARK MASONRY. Article 41
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 41
IRELAND. Article 42
SOUTH AUSTRALIA. Article 42
THE WEEK. Article 43
NOTICES. Article 48
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 48
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

WliHX AM ) MASONIC HISTORY' . -V doubter has addressed the following letter to the Building News , of May 20 th : — " . Sir , —lu a very interesting article on page 1 , 02 , 5 , of your List year's volume , entitled , ' Freemasonry and Architecture , ' the writer litis stated that 'Wren was ( irand Master of England , and that be held a Lodge in regular working throughout the building of St . Paul's . ' 1 know that the usual histories of Freemasons assert this mastershi factbut do not ive authoritfor doingI inclined

p as a , gany y so . am to doubt it for two reasons : —first , that there was no office of Grand Master until alter the year 1717 , when the four Lodges then in Loudon met together , and constituted themselves a ' Grand Lodge , ' which was after Sir C . "Wren had given up bis interest in the association ; and , secondly , that "Wren was not made a Freemason until iG' 91 . ( See flalliwelPs Early History of Freemasonry , ISM , page 40 ) . This - date is long after the commencement of building St . Paul ' s ( 1675 ) , and therefore ho could hardly ' have held a Lodge in regular working . ' 1 believe I have seen some notices of there having beeu a Lodge of working Masons at St . Paul's , but of this

course has no connexion with the Freemasons who , even at that time , comprised little else than jovial clubs of good fellowship , regardless of practical experience . If these few lines should meet the eye of any of your readers who may be versed in the history of the Order , I should be glad of seeing a satisfactory reply ; ,-md if he can refer me to some historical documents which will testify to . ( 'harles II . and "William III . having belonged to the Freemasons , as usserted , I . shall be greatly oblied for tho information . After much research , my own opinion is , that there is no authority whatever for the statements ; that , in fact , the history of

Freemasonry requires to be wholly rewritten , and cleared from tho absurd stories put forward by Anderson , Preston , Oliver , and their followers . " I am , & c , "As ARCHITECT , "

What the editor of the Building News may say to "An Architect , " rcnuuiis to ke seen , but wc do not suppose any brother will think it necessary ti > afford any answer as to the working of the Lodge of Antiquity . With regard to his doubt of Wren's Grand Mastership of England , this originates in his notion , that as four of the Lodges iti London elected a Grand Master in 1717 , no Grand Master could have existed before . Perhaps he supposes no Lodge existed before that date .

There is no call for Masons to open their records to an architect , any move than to the rest of the public ; but we are not surprised that any man ol ordinary historical knowledge should characterize the stories put forward by Anderson , Preston , Oliver , and their followers , as absurd , MASONIC SONG BOOKS . At Sb 9 of the Freemasons'' Magazinefor 185 Sis a interesting

p . , , , very list of Masonic song books , in illustration of the Entered Apprentice song . We think it may be useful to give this list , with some extension , dames Audcrson , Book of Constitutions , -ito . London , 1723 . Constitutions , Ito . Philadelphia , ly . 'll . dames Calender's Masonic Odes and Songs , 8 vo . London , 1758 . The Secrets of the Freemasons Ecvealed , Ito . London , 1759 . The Pocket Companion , 12 mo . London , 1702 .

Wyld ' s Songs of Masonry , 8 vo . London , 17 ( il . The Freemasons' Pocket Companion , 12 mo . Glasgow , 177 . 1 . Wilson's Collection of Masonic Songs , 12 nio . London , 17 SS . Masonic Songs , 21 mo . Waterford , N . Y ., 1789 . Preston's Illustrations of Masonry , 8 vo . London , 1775 . Koortliouck ' s Anderson ' s Constitutions , Ito . London , 1781 , 3 U

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