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Old Documents Recently Dis Covered Compared With The Massachusets Records Of 1733.

OLD DOCUMENTS RECENTLY DIS COVERED COMPARED WITH THE MASSACHUSETS RECORDS OF 1733 .

By Bro . JACOB NORTON , of-Boston . The philosopher , John Locke , was deceived with a forged document , purporting to be a conversation between Henry VI . and a Mason . The forgery of the so-called " Cologne Charter , " is doubtless

familiar to many of our readers . The " History of Freemasonry" by the Eev . James Anderson ; " The Antiquities of Masonry , '' by the Eev . Dr . Oliver ; the forgery by the Rev . F . Daicho of the Frederick the Great Charter for the so-called Scoth Rite .

The number of knavish editors , Grand Masters , and high officials in this country , who to this day aver their belief in the above named humbugsthe ridiculous legends which form the basis of all the higher degrees , etc . When we take all these

Masonic deceptions into consideration , we may well pause at every step ; we may well question every historic assertion which is vouched for by our " great lights . "

About twelve months ago we were induced to question the geuuiness of Henry Price ' s commission . We inquired if the original commission of Henry Price was in existence , and were answered in the negative . We asked if any other document

survived the last century , and were answered " the original records of the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts from 1733 are in existence . " We were

puzzled why Anderson in 1738 andEntick in 1756 mention the appointment of Tomlinson for America in 1738 , and why they were silent about Price in 1733 . Aud again , Bro . C . W . Moore , in his life of Price , gives Montacute as the Grand Master of

England for 1733 ; but we were satisfied that no such title as Montacute existed at the above period . Furthermore , the " first lodge , " now crlled " St . John ' s Lodge / which Price constituted in Boston in 1733 , Bro . 0 . W . Moore admits never had a

charter , until it received one from the present Grand Lodge in 1792 . Such conduct , it is needless to say , could never have taken place with the knowledge of the present Grand Lodge of England . These doubts wero embodied in an article designed

for the February number of the St . Louis Freemason , which was , however , returned to us by Bro . Goulep . In the month of February , 1868 , the letter of the Grand Secretary of England appeared in Bro . C . W . Moore ' s Magazine , asserting that Henry Price is mentioned in an almanac as

Old Documents Recently Dis Covered Compared With The Massachusets Records Of 1733.

having been Grand Master of America from 1733 to 17— . Though we were then perfectly satisfied that C . W . M . misprinted the English Secretary ' s letter , yet that letter brought us to halt in our speculations . Further inquiry we thought , was

necessary ; so we called on Bro . Thornton , Grand Secretary of Massachusetts , and asked permission to look at the original record of 1733 . The original record was not in his office , but a transcript was there ; and in that transcript , instead of finding

that Viscount Montacute gave Price the commission , we found it was Viscount Montague . This discovery , while it confirmed the unreliability of Bro . Moore's authorship , tended , however , to

remove one of the causes that led us to doubt the genuiness of Price ' s commission . That Bro . 0 . W . M . did really alter the dates of Bro . Hervey the Grand Secretary of England ' s letter , above alluded to , has been shown in a previous number

of the American Freemason . This substitutiou of Montacute for Montague is now referred to a committee , who will report on it at the next meeting of the Grand Lodge . The discussion , however , in the Masonic Monthly , as to whether it was

Montague or Montacute , served to bring forward some very interesting old documents , which have already brought to light historical facts hitherto unknown , and must serve still further to stimulate research .

About three weeks ago our esteemed old friend and brother , Dr . Winslow Lewis , P . G . M ., put into our hands two old documents , in which allusion is made to Viscount Montague . The first , which we shall call No . 1 , if genuine , is undoubtedly the

oldest Masonic document relating to the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts in existence . It purports to be the application to Henry Price , on the day he organised his Grand Lodge , to constitute the undersigned into the " First Lodge" ( now

St . John ' s Lodge ) . There were , however , two reasons for doubting its genuiness : first , though it is undoubted old , unfortunately some genuis had been tampering with it . Twice we found a 2 altered into a 3 , and the date given therein of

Price ' s commission was April 13 th , while in Moore ' s printed copy thereof , and in the transcript record of the Grand Lodge , ib is April 30 fch . But that is not all . In the printed copy the whole paragraph which alludes to Montague is omitted ;

while in the transcript we found that paragraph . The language in the printed copy is also mors modern , but of that we may speak hereafter .

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LET BROTHERLY LOVE PREVAIL. Article 1
OLD DOCUMENTS RECENTLY DIS COVERED COMPARED WITH THE MASSACHUSETS RECORDS OF 1733. Article 2
HISTORY OF MASONIC IMITATIONS. Article 4
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 13. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
Untitled Article 10
MASONIC MEMS Article 10
FESTIVAL OF THE ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 10
Craft Masonry. Article 13
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 15
INDIA. Article 16
SOUTH AUSTRALIA. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
GRACE BEFORE MEAT. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 9TH APRIL, 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Old Documents Recently Dis Covered Compared With The Massachusets Records Of 1733.

OLD DOCUMENTS RECENTLY DIS COVERED COMPARED WITH THE MASSACHUSETS RECORDS OF 1733 .

By Bro . JACOB NORTON , of-Boston . The philosopher , John Locke , was deceived with a forged document , purporting to be a conversation between Henry VI . and a Mason . The forgery of the so-called " Cologne Charter , " is doubtless

familiar to many of our readers . The " History of Freemasonry" by the Eev . James Anderson ; " The Antiquities of Masonry , '' by the Eev . Dr . Oliver ; the forgery by the Rev . F . Daicho of the Frederick the Great Charter for the so-called Scoth Rite .

The number of knavish editors , Grand Masters , and high officials in this country , who to this day aver their belief in the above named humbugsthe ridiculous legends which form the basis of all the higher degrees , etc . When we take all these

Masonic deceptions into consideration , we may well pause at every step ; we may well question every historic assertion which is vouched for by our " great lights . "

About twelve months ago we were induced to question the geuuiness of Henry Price ' s commission . We inquired if the original commission of Henry Price was in existence , and were answered in the negative . We asked if any other document

survived the last century , and were answered " the original records of the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts from 1733 are in existence . " We were

puzzled why Anderson in 1738 andEntick in 1756 mention the appointment of Tomlinson for America in 1738 , and why they were silent about Price in 1733 . Aud again , Bro . C . W . Moore , in his life of Price , gives Montacute as the Grand Master of

England for 1733 ; but we were satisfied that no such title as Montacute existed at the above period . Furthermore , the " first lodge , " now crlled " St . John ' s Lodge / which Price constituted in Boston in 1733 , Bro . 0 . W . Moore admits never had a

charter , until it received one from the present Grand Lodge in 1792 . Such conduct , it is needless to say , could never have taken place with the knowledge of the present Grand Lodge of England . These doubts wero embodied in an article designed

for the February number of the St . Louis Freemason , which was , however , returned to us by Bro . Goulep . In the month of February , 1868 , the letter of the Grand Secretary of England appeared in Bro . C . W . Moore ' s Magazine , asserting that Henry Price is mentioned in an almanac as

Old Documents Recently Dis Covered Compared With The Massachusets Records Of 1733.

having been Grand Master of America from 1733 to 17— . Though we were then perfectly satisfied that C . W . M . misprinted the English Secretary ' s letter , yet that letter brought us to halt in our speculations . Further inquiry we thought , was

necessary ; so we called on Bro . Thornton , Grand Secretary of Massachusetts , and asked permission to look at the original record of 1733 . The original record was not in his office , but a transcript was there ; and in that transcript , instead of finding

that Viscount Montacute gave Price the commission , we found it was Viscount Montague . This discovery , while it confirmed the unreliability of Bro . Moore's authorship , tended , however , to

remove one of the causes that led us to doubt the genuiness of Price ' s commission . That Bro . 0 . W . M . did really alter the dates of Bro . Hervey the Grand Secretary of England ' s letter , above alluded to , has been shown in a previous number

of the American Freemason . This substitutiou of Montacute for Montague is now referred to a committee , who will report on it at the next meeting of the Grand Lodge . The discussion , however , in the Masonic Monthly , as to whether it was

Montague or Montacute , served to bring forward some very interesting old documents , which have already brought to light historical facts hitherto unknown , and must serve still further to stimulate research .

About three weeks ago our esteemed old friend and brother , Dr . Winslow Lewis , P . G . M ., put into our hands two old documents , in which allusion is made to Viscount Montague . The first , which we shall call No . 1 , if genuine , is undoubtedly the

oldest Masonic document relating to the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts in existence . It purports to be the application to Henry Price , on the day he organised his Grand Lodge , to constitute the undersigned into the " First Lodge" ( now

St . John ' s Lodge ) . There were , however , two reasons for doubting its genuiness : first , though it is undoubted old , unfortunately some genuis had been tampering with it . Twice we found a 2 altered into a 3 , and the date given therein of

Price ' s commission was April 13 th , while in Moore ' s printed copy thereof , and in the transcript record of the Grand Lodge , ib is April 30 fch . But that is not all . In the printed copy the whole paragraph which alludes to Montague is omitted ;

while in the transcript we found that paragraph . The language in the printed copy is also mors modern , but of that we may speak hereafter .

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