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Masonic Notes And Queries.

LODGES OF INSTEUCTION . These lodges meet under the sanction of a regular lodge , conveyed by the vote of such lodge . Should not they then elect , or appoint the Master who is to preside and instruct ? The Book of Constitutions

( p . 88 , par . 2 ) directs minutes to be kept of " brethren appointed to hold office ; " but this surely does not mean those who occupy an office for an hour or so for practice , but the Master and Wardens appointed to preside and instruct . I am aware that no past or present rank belongs to those who have held such offices

, but the question has arisen whether the W . M . of the lodge giving his sanction is necessarily , ex officio , the Master of the Lodge of Instruction , no matter how incapable he may be of managing it , and though the brethren may desire an experienced P . M . to preside . My idea is , that having obtained

the sanction , which is as good an authority for them to meet for instruction as the warrant " is for the regular lodge to meet for business , they should elect any W . M . or P . M . they like , especially when its members belong to several different lodges ; otherwise it becomes only an emergency meeting of the sanctionary lodge . —P . M .

GEAND LODGE PEOCEEDINGS . Members , who know nothing of Grand Lodge , may yet have frequently seen a Secretary get up in a lodge and exhibit a number of large sheets of printed paper , which had been sent to the lodge , and were said to contain the proceedings of the last quarterly communicationThese

. sheets are supposed to have passed into the waste basket unread . Among other reforms carried out at Grand Lodge to make the proceedings more acceptable , and accessible , they are now printed in a neat octavo form , and not too soon , asjthe last annual report of the Grand Lodof

ge New iork contains some suitable remarks on the old form , and the desirability of printing like other Grand Lodges . It will be gratifying to our worthy G . Sec , Bro . Heryey , and his coadjutors , to learn that at a late meeting of a lodge , a Secretary arose , and , showing the new form , invited the brethren , who wished , to read the numbers at their leisure over his own hospitable board .

_ With more reading there will be increased interest m Grand Lodge . —P . M . HISSING . Bro . Buchan may perhaps not know , even with his wide acquaintance , that , so far as French Masons and the continent are concerned , kissing will be no revival of an " ancient landmark , " for it has never been given up . —W . S .

BUEGH EECOBDS . Can any brother kindly inform me where a copy of "Ancient Laws and Customs of the Burghs of of Scotland " could be seen or could be obtained ? A communication to the care of the Editor of the Freemasons' Magazine would much oblige . —A MASONIC STUDENT .

MR . "VVILKIE COLLINS is , after a long repose , engaged on a story which is intended for successive numbers of vassell ' s Magazine .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible far the opinions expressed 4 y Coireijion < i « tt < e

MASONIC PEECEPTS AND MASONIC PRACTICES .

TO THE EDITOB OE THE 37 EEE 3 IASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC STIBBOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Like our old friend , Lord Dundreary , I have an idea , but stay until I tie a knot upon my pocket handkerchief in case I lose it , ha I here it is , viz ., —You have a member of the Grand Lodge of England called Bro . W . J . Hughanand

, another of the Grand Lodge of Scotland called Bro . D . Murray Lyon ; now these two brethren have done a little for Masonry , and , to anyone who does not know what , I would say , — " You do not deserve to be told , ' cause why?—You ought to know . " "The workman is worthy of his hire , " is an old saying , and

at page 7 of the 1723 Constitutions of the Grand Lodge of England , it says , — " All preferment among Masons is grounded upon real worth and personal merit only . " Consequently , if these two brethren were made , the one Junior Grand Warden of the Grand Lodof Englandand the other J . G . W . of

ge , the Grand Lodge of Scotland , it would be carrying into practical effect the laws and doctrines of the Order , and it would also show that learning and moral worth together were esteemed amongst Masons as well as rank and fortune . Further , this or some acknowledgment of their past labourswould show

, they were appreciated , and they well deserve it . I hope they will forgive me making these remarks without consulting them . Yours fraternally , A FEEEMASON .

ARBITRARY CONDUCT OF THE GRAND LODGE . TO THE EDIXOK OE TEE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIKEOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Kindly allow me to trespass shortly on your space with a few lines in reference to

the letter of " Pictus , " in your issue of the 18 th ult . " Pictus " says , if the statement made by me in my letter of the 30 th August , which appears in your Magazine of the 4 th ult ., be true , the brethren of the Isle of Wight have been treated more like slaves than freemen .

Now , Mr . Editor , I pledge my Masonic honour that ilte statements in my letter are absolutely true , and you have my full permission to furnish my name and address to any brother who desires further information , privately , on the subject of the union of tho Isle of Wiht with Hampshirebut not with the view

g , of entering into a controversy . What do "A Stone of the Temple " and " Pictus " think of a Past Deputy Grand Master of the Isle of Wight being told by the Grand Secretary that it wets not necessary to give ancj reason for the extinction ot this province and its union with HampshireTruly " Pictus" is right .

. , We have been treated more like slaves than freemen . Yours fraternally , JUSTITIA .

Cowes , 20 th September , 1869 .

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THE ELECTION OF MASTER AND OFFICERS FOR THE ENSUING YEAR. Article 1
NEW MASONIC TOAST — " BRO. THE PRINCE OF WALES." Article 2
THE HAUGHFOOT LODGE AND SPECULATIVE MASONRY. Article 3
MASONIC GOVERNMENT. Article 5
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 6
BIBLES AND OTHER EARLY PRINTED BOOKS.—No. 2. Article 7
BURGH RECORDS. —No. 7. Article 9
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 13
Untitled Article 14
MASONIC MEMS. Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 15
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
SOUTH AFRICA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
LAYING THE FOUNDATION STONE OF DUMFRIES AND GALLOWAY NEW ROYAL INFIRMARY. Article 17
MASONIC FUNERAL IN SPAIN. Article 18
MASONIC FUNERAL AT HARTLEPOOL. Article 19
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 19
MASONIC LIFE BOAT FUND. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 9TH OCTOBER, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

LODGES OF INSTEUCTION . These lodges meet under the sanction of a regular lodge , conveyed by the vote of such lodge . Should not they then elect , or appoint the Master who is to preside and instruct ? The Book of Constitutions

( p . 88 , par . 2 ) directs minutes to be kept of " brethren appointed to hold office ; " but this surely does not mean those who occupy an office for an hour or so for practice , but the Master and Wardens appointed to preside and instruct . I am aware that no past or present rank belongs to those who have held such offices

, but the question has arisen whether the W . M . of the lodge giving his sanction is necessarily , ex officio , the Master of the Lodge of Instruction , no matter how incapable he may be of managing it , and though the brethren may desire an experienced P . M . to preside . My idea is , that having obtained

the sanction , which is as good an authority for them to meet for instruction as the warrant " is for the regular lodge to meet for business , they should elect any W . M . or P . M . they like , especially when its members belong to several different lodges ; otherwise it becomes only an emergency meeting of the sanctionary lodge . —P . M .

GEAND LODGE PEOCEEDINGS . Members , who know nothing of Grand Lodge , may yet have frequently seen a Secretary get up in a lodge and exhibit a number of large sheets of printed paper , which had been sent to the lodge , and were said to contain the proceedings of the last quarterly communicationThese

. sheets are supposed to have passed into the waste basket unread . Among other reforms carried out at Grand Lodge to make the proceedings more acceptable , and accessible , they are now printed in a neat octavo form , and not too soon , asjthe last annual report of the Grand Lodof

ge New iork contains some suitable remarks on the old form , and the desirability of printing like other Grand Lodges . It will be gratifying to our worthy G . Sec , Bro . Heryey , and his coadjutors , to learn that at a late meeting of a lodge , a Secretary arose , and , showing the new form , invited the brethren , who wished , to read the numbers at their leisure over his own hospitable board .

_ With more reading there will be increased interest m Grand Lodge . —P . M . HISSING . Bro . Buchan may perhaps not know , even with his wide acquaintance , that , so far as French Masons and the continent are concerned , kissing will be no revival of an " ancient landmark , " for it has never been given up . —W . S .

BUEGH EECOBDS . Can any brother kindly inform me where a copy of "Ancient Laws and Customs of the Burghs of of Scotland " could be seen or could be obtained ? A communication to the care of the Editor of the Freemasons' Magazine would much oblige . —A MASONIC STUDENT .

MR . "VVILKIE COLLINS is , after a long repose , engaged on a story which is intended for successive numbers of vassell ' s Magazine .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible far the opinions expressed 4 y Coireijion < i « tt < e

MASONIC PEECEPTS AND MASONIC PRACTICES .

TO THE EDITOB OE THE 37 EEE 3 IASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC STIBBOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Like our old friend , Lord Dundreary , I have an idea , but stay until I tie a knot upon my pocket handkerchief in case I lose it , ha I here it is , viz ., —You have a member of the Grand Lodge of England called Bro . W . J . Hughanand

, another of the Grand Lodge of Scotland called Bro . D . Murray Lyon ; now these two brethren have done a little for Masonry , and , to anyone who does not know what , I would say , — " You do not deserve to be told , ' cause why?—You ought to know . " "The workman is worthy of his hire , " is an old saying , and

at page 7 of the 1723 Constitutions of the Grand Lodge of England , it says , — " All preferment among Masons is grounded upon real worth and personal merit only . " Consequently , if these two brethren were made , the one Junior Grand Warden of the Grand Lodof Englandand the other J . G . W . of

ge , the Grand Lodge of Scotland , it would be carrying into practical effect the laws and doctrines of the Order , and it would also show that learning and moral worth together were esteemed amongst Masons as well as rank and fortune . Further , this or some acknowledgment of their past labourswould show

, they were appreciated , and they well deserve it . I hope they will forgive me making these remarks without consulting them . Yours fraternally , A FEEEMASON .

ARBITRARY CONDUCT OF THE GRAND LODGE . TO THE EDIXOK OE TEE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIKEOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Kindly allow me to trespass shortly on your space with a few lines in reference to

the letter of " Pictus , " in your issue of the 18 th ult . " Pictus " says , if the statement made by me in my letter of the 30 th August , which appears in your Magazine of the 4 th ult ., be true , the brethren of the Isle of Wight have been treated more like slaves than freemen .

Now , Mr . Editor , I pledge my Masonic honour that ilte statements in my letter are absolutely true , and you have my full permission to furnish my name and address to any brother who desires further information , privately , on the subject of the union of tho Isle of Wiht with Hampshirebut not with the view

g , of entering into a controversy . What do "A Stone of the Temple " and " Pictus " think of a Past Deputy Grand Master of the Isle of Wight being told by the Grand Secretary that it wets not necessary to give ancj reason for the extinction ot this province and its union with HampshireTruly " Pictus" is right .

. , We have been treated more like slaves than freemen . Yours fraternally , JUSTITIA .

Cowes , 20 th September , 1869 .

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