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The Election Of Master And Officers For The Ensuing Year.

confidence being conferred on them by their respective constituencies to determine zealously , " to act and abide by the ancient usages and established customs of the Order . " We are confident that if these injunctions are

strictly adhered to the ancient Order in which we are enrolled , will be substantially benefited , and thus be the means of extending those blessings which it has conferred on mankind .

New Masonic Toast — " Bro. The Prince Of Wales."

NEW MASONIC TOAST — " BRO . THE PRINCE OF WALES . "

The Prince of Wales is now attached to the Grand Lodges of England and Scotland . In some lodges formerly " H . R . H . the Prince of Wales and the rest of the Royal Family " was given as an ordinary toast . Then came the time when the Prince was admitted as a Mason in Sweden

Some lodges cheerfully hailed the new brother , and gave the toast of " Bro . H . E . H . the Prince of Wales " with Masonic honours in his accustomed place after the Queen . There were few who did that , for they wanted to know what the " authorities "

could say . and it was dimly asserted that " the authorities" held that the Prince was not a Mason , because he had given the authorities the slip ; also that he was not a Mason , because he had taken three degrees in the same night , as his royal

grandfather and relatives hacl done before him , and as he would have done in Scotland ; further , that he was not a Mason because he was initiated in

Sweden , and that Sweden is a schismatic country , destitute of Craft Masonry ; and lastly , that as the high degrees are prohibited in England , or at all events ought to be , and as the Prince had taken very high degrees in Sweden , he was no Mason

at all . It was also believed on good foundation that if the Prince wanted to get into Grand Lodge , or somebody wanted to get him in , that it would be quite impossible , as he would have on the insiguia of some of his high degrees , which are uu-Masonic , and that he would be turned out

forthwith . How " the authorities " might have settled the matter is not clear , for very likely the matter was not left to the authorities at all , but settled by the gentlemanly instinct of the M . W . G . M ., the Earl

of Zetland himself . While various authorities were considering into what hole or corner lodges the Prince could be bottled up and entrapped , under the temptation that he was making himself

popular with the brethren at large , the Earl addressed the Prince with a cordial welcome , and was responded to in the same spirit . It then began to be allowed by " the authorities , " —as they could not help themselves , —that the Prince was

some kind of a Masou after all ; not quite the right sort , it may be , but that his offences have been condoned , and that " the authorities " have , for the sake of Masonic unity , and not to be too hard upon him , let him into the bosom of the true Craft .

Still the salutations of Bro . the Prince of Wales at Masonic banquets were few and far between . The " authorities " had not made up their minds how to deal with him , though the brethren had . The brethren generally believed it was the wish

of the Earl of Zetland to place the Prince in the position of M . W . G . M ., as his royal relatives had been , the Earl continuing to rule the Craft , and give the benefit of his friendly aid and counsel as Pro . Grand Master .

How this was arranged , and how far the Earl was allowed his own way may not perhaps be known . The Prince was made a Pro . Grand Master after a fashion ; the M . W . G . M . was not present in the Grand Lodge and we do not know what would have been his Lordship's expressions on the occasion . At all events the Prince is made

a Past Grand Master , whatever that may be , and now it remains , when " the authorities " allow it , that we should do honour to him . This appears a very simple affair to simpleminded men ; the Queen and the Craft , and after the

Queen her heir , Bro . H . R . H . the Prince of Wales ; a very zealous presiding officer may give the health of our brother ' s wife and of the Royal Lewises , Prince Albert Victor and the other infant Princes of Wales , thus : " P . G . M . the Prince of Wales and the

Princess of Wales , " for instance . An ardent patron of the Boys' and Girl ' s Schools may innocently refer to the prospect of a royal visit when Prince Albert Victor may mingle with Masons' orphan boys , and the Princesses with the orphan girls . This is a simple way of managing , but is it right ? Had we not better wait for the authorities ?

There is much to be said , for although it is quite true the Prince is a Prince and Prince of Wales , does he not lose his rank as such by becoming a P . G . M ., and ought he not to be treated as such ? Besides what is the good of being a Past Grand Officer , a P . G . S . B . or a P . G . A . D . C . or other high functionary , without having the

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THE ELECTION OF MASTER AND OFFICERS FOR THE ENSUING YEAR. Article 1
NEW MASONIC TOAST — " BRO. THE PRINCE OF WALES." Article 2
THE HAUGHFOOT LODGE AND SPECULATIVE MASONRY. Article 3
MASONIC GOVERNMENT. Article 5
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 6
BIBLES AND OTHER EARLY PRINTED BOOKS.—No. 2. Article 7
BURGH RECORDS. —No. 7. Article 9
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 13
Untitled Article 14
MASONIC MEMS. Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 15
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
SOUTH AFRICA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
LAYING THE FOUNDATION STONE OF DUMFRIES AND GALLOWAY NEW ROYAL INFIRMARY. Article 17
MASONIC FUNERAL IN SPAIN. Article 18
MASONIC FUNERAL AT HARTLEPOOL. Article 19
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 19
MASONIC LIFE BOAT FUND. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 9TH OCTOBER, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Election Of Master And Officers For The Ensuing Year.

confidence being conferred on them by their respective constituencies to determine zealously , " to act and abide by the ancient usages and established customs of the Order . " We are confident that if these injunctions are

strictly adhered to the ancient Order in which we are enrolled , will be substantially benefited , and thus be the means of extending those blessings which it has conferred on mankind .

New Masonic Toast — " Bro. The Prince Of Wales."

NEW MASONIC TOAST — " BRO . THE PRINCE OF WALES . "

The Prince of Wales is now attached to the Grand Lodges of England and Scotland . In some lodges formerly " H . R . H . the Prince of Wales and the rest of the Royal Family " was given as an ordinary toast . Then came the time when the Prince was admitted as a Mason in Sweden

Some lodges cheerfully hailed the new brother , and gave the toast of " Bro . H . E . H . the Prince of Wales " with Masonic honours in his accustomed place after the Queen . There were few who did that , for they wanted to know what the " authorities "

could say . and it was dimly asserted that " the authorities" held that the Prince was not a Mason , because he had given the authorities the slip ; also that he was not a Mason , because he had taken three degrees in the same night , as his royal

grandfather and relatives hacl done before him , and as he would have done in Scotland ; further , that he was not a Mason because he was initiated in

Sweden , and that Sweden is a schismatic country , destitute of Craft Masonry ; and lastly , that as the high degrees are prohibited in England , or at all events ought to be , and as the Prince had taken very high degrees in Sweden , he was no Mason

at all . It was also believed on good foundation that if the Prince wanted to get into Grand Lodge , or somebody wanted to get him in , that it would be quite impossible , as he would have on the insiguia of some of his high degrees , which are uu-Masonic , and that he would be turned out

forthwith . How " the authorities " might have settled the matter is not clear , for very likely the matter was not left to the authorities at all , but settled by the gentlemanly instinct of the M . W . G . M ., the Earl

of Zetland himself . While various authorities were considering into what hole or corner lodges the Prince could be bottled up and entrapped , under the temptation that he was making himself

popular with the brethren at large , the Earl addressed the Prince with a cordial welcome , and was responded to in the same spirit . It then began to be allowed by " the authorities , " —as they could not help themselves , —that the Prince was

some kind of a Masou after all ; not quite the right sort , it may be , but that his offences have been condoned , and that " the authorities " have , for the sake of Masonic unity , and not to be too hard upon him , let him into the bosom of the true Craft .

Still the salutations of Bro . the Prince of Wales at Masonic banquets were few and far between . The " authorities " had not made up their minds how to deal with him , though the brethren had . The brethren generally believed it was the wish

of the Earl of Zetland to place the Prince in the position of M . W . G . M ., as his royal relatives had been , the Earl continuing to rule the Craft , and give the benefit of his friendly aid and counsel as Pro . Grand Master .

How this was arranged , and how far the Earl was allowed his own way may not perhaps be known . The Prince was made a Pro . Grand Master after a fashion ; the M . W . G . M . was not present in the Grand Lodge and we do not know what would have been his Lordship's expressions on the occasion . At all events the Prince is made

a Past Grand Master , whatever that may be , and now it remains , when " the authorities " allow it , that we should do honour to him . This appears a very simple affair to simpleminded men ; the Queen and the Craft , and after the

Queen her heir , Bro . H . R . H . the Prince of Wales ; a very zealous presiding officer may give the health of our brother ' s wife and of the Royal Lewises , Prince Albert Victor and the other infant Princes of Wales , thus : " P . G . M . the Prince of Wales and the

Princess of Wales , " for instance . An ardent patron of the Boys' and Girl ' s Schools may innocently refer to the prospect of a royal visit when Prince Albert Victor may mingle with Masons' orphan boys , and the Princesses with the orphan girls . This is a simple way of managing , but is it right ? Had we not better wait for the authorities ?

There is much to be said , for although it is quite true the Prince is a Prince and Prince of Wales , does he not lose his rank as such by becoming a P . G . M ., and ought he not to be treated as such ? Besides what is the good of being a Past Grand Officer , a P . G . S . B . or a P . G . A . D . C . or other high functionary , without having the

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