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Masonic Notes And Queries.

Egyptian brother with whom Belzoni had estabhsed relations , somo half century since , and produced before the Lord Chancellor in his youth ?—A D ISTURBED SPIRIT — [ Our correspondent should toll us what kind of "disturbed spirit " he is . "We take him to bo of thc strongest rum , very slightly indeed disturbed by an admixture of water . If he really believes Bro . Pepper ' s ghost to be

a Mason he had better go to thc Polytechnic and try it , as he must know how , for himself . ] THE WORKING TOOLS . I recommend "Plain English" to buy at once the book he mentions . Many curious Masonic books are picked up in this way , and , from tho title as he gives it , it is no doubt a curious book . If he will favour me with a perusal of it , afterwards , I shall feel deeply obliged . — A . F . A . "WOODFORD , CO ., Swillington , Leeds .

TILE FREEMASONS OF NEWPORT , SOUTH WALES . The following fact is so creditable to the Freemasons of Newport , that it deserves to bo made a note of . It is extracted from the Guardian newspaper : — "A letter in the Times states that Mr . Samuel Baldwin Rogers , of Nant-y-glo , the inventor of iron bottoms for puddling furnaces—an invention of national importance—died in

great poverty last week , at Newport , aged 90 , and was only saved from a pauper ' s grave by the charity of thc Freemasons of the town . An imbecile daughter survives , and efforts are now being made in South Wales to save her from thc workhouse . " —PALMAM QUI MERUIT FERAT . —[ When residing at tho Blaineau , some twentytwo and long before wo were initiatedwe

years ago , , ¦ were well acquainted with Bro . Bogcrs , who was a man far in advance of his times . A favourite scheme of his , and one not so Utopian as certain interested companies pronounced it , was to collect tho immense quantities of gas , driven off into the open air , from all the iron-works in "Wales , to convey it to London , along the Great Western Railway , lighting thc chief towns on thc route ,

the whole of the metropolis , and the entire lino from one end to the other , and finally to supply tho same all over the country by thc lines of railway . This plan , gigantic as it was , would have most wonderfully enriched the iron-works in Wales , abolished the monopolies of gas companies , and by utilising that which is , to this very hour , wasted in quantities that defy figures to

represent it , economised the consumption of fuel—a subject now attracting considerable attention—and removed from the neighbourhood of numberless large towns , the metropolis included , thc pestiferous gas works which pollute the atmosphere and damage much valuable property . When coal becomes dearer and gas more used as an article of fuel—perhaps somo century

hence—then will poor Bro . Roger ' s scheme come to be appreciated , and the country may honour his remains with a stone monument whilst his discoveries were deemed unworthy of bread . Let us hope the brethren of Newport will not relax in their kind offices towards his imbecile daughter ; and to every brother , who can spare the means , we would say , contribute your mite . ]—E . R .

MAD ON FREEMASONRY . My business takes me occasionally to a printing office where a Masonic periodical was once printed , and I have to confer with a very intelligent compositor who , alas 1 for my comfort , knows I am a Freemason . He , it appears , set one or two volumes of that periodical , and , as he is a steady man , much respected in thc office , served

his apprenticeship there , and in every other way as sane as I am , is tolerated by his employers , who say , " He ' s a little gone on one subject , you know what ; but don't allude to it . " Well , I do my business with him all right enough , and turn to leave , when he catches mo by the button and says ,- — "Mr . , havo you been able to manage that little affair for me yet ? Because I know

that several Freemasons called on the governor yesterday ( or the day before ) , and they do persecute me So I'm sure I shan ' t be right in my head much longer if they go on like this . Do get me made a Freemason . " I have repeatedly told him the principles of the Order are to be truthful , and that no Freemason would seek to annoy him—whichfor the timepacifies him ; but the

, , same thing recurs on every visit . He is a good husband , bears an excellent character in the house alluded to , and is altogether as rational as I am on every other subject . Should I be doing wrong to propose him for initiation ? It might save , or restore , a very estimable man to reason if he saw what the Craft is . —A READER .

BROTHER FRANCIS CREW . Is Brother Francis Crew living or dead ? When he was actively at work for tho Girls' School he was seen everywhere ; but now his name is seldom mentioned , and although I havo not noticed his decease recorded in THE MAGAZINE it may have escaped me , so I ask the question . •—A COUNTRY SUBSCRIBER . —[ Brother Crew is , we are

happy to say , alive and better than we expected from his affliction . About three weeks ago we called upon him , and found him actually improved in looks . True , poor fellow , he is paralysed and has lost the use of his speech , but is able to say " yes" and " no" to all that is said to him . With these exceptions every one of his faculties are in as good a state as ever . Indeedhe went so far as to

, sing a snatch of a song , omitting the words—and there was the remains of his once clear and musical voice . We stayed with him above an hour , and his niece , who is an admirable interpreter of his wants and ideas , told us he felt the old proverb , " Out of sight out of mind , " very much , for at one time some of the brethren used to drop

in and talk to him , but only a few did so now ; and this she attributed to a report that had been spread abroad that he was imbecile . God have mercy , wo say , on the man that invented such an untruth ! Bro . Crew endorsed all she said . He showed us his arm and side ( that which was unaffected ) , to prove how good his health was . To every question we put to him he returned

a most intelligible " yes " or " no , " and was pleased to intimate that he should be glad to see us again . Bro . Francis Crew is as hearty as any man can be , gifted with all his intellects in their full vigour , and , we think , deserving of a little more attention from the Craft than he receives . A few minutes' chat with him occasionally would bo but a friendly actand to such a brother little

, courtesies of this kind would be a bright spot in his hour of trial . We are very glad " A Country Subscriber " has put the question to us , because we can answer it in a way that will be gratifying to hundreds . In our turn we should like to ask a question , —Is Bro . Crew ' s portrait as forgotten and neglected as himself ; and at whoso door lies the blame F ]

MASONIC DEGREES . Could one really believe that " Delta ' s" notes and queries are meant bond fide to advance Masonic truth and extend Masonic knowledge , one should have little difficulty in giving a satisfactory response to his almost innumerable communications , " de omnibus rebus efc quibusdam aliis . "

But I confess , having already had a little experience of " Delta ' s" controversial theories , that I cannot otherwise regard them than as " sensation" notes , raising up endless " vexata quosstiones , " stirring up endless controversies , and treading with irreverent footstep on what , as Masons , we have been taught to consider hitherto " holy ground . "

When " Delta , " for instance , iu tho very last number of THE MAGAZINE , gives vent to this reckless expression of individual opinion— " I feel convinced that the F . C . degree has been recently foisted into the system , " ho quietly ignores those most interesting communications from our Bro . D . Murray Lyon which should have served , one is led to think , to point out even to him

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CONSTITUTION OF ITALIAN FREEMASONRY. Article 1
AUSTRALASIAN FREEMASONS AND DESTITUTE CHILDREN'S SOCIETY. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 3
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
MASONIC CHARITY. Article 6
THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 7
CAN A WARDEN INITIATE, &c. Article 7
AN IMPOSTOR. Article 8
PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGES. Article 8
Obituary. Article 8
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
SCOTLAND. Article 12
IRELAND. Article 13
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
AUSTRALIA. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 17
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 17
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

Egyptian brother with whom Belzoni had estabhsed relations , somo half century since , and produced before the Lord Chancellor in his youth ?—A D ISTURBED SPIRIT — [ Our correspondent should toll us what kind of "disturbed spirit " he is . "We take him to bo of thc strongest rum , very slightly indeed disturbed by an admixture of water . If he really believes Bro . Pepper ' s ghost to be

a Mason he had better go to thc Polytechnic and try it , as he must know how , for himself . ] THE WORKING TOOLS . I recommend "Plain English" to buy at once the book he mentions . Many curious Masonic books are picked up in this way , and , from tho title as he gives it , it is no doubt a curious book . If he will favour me with a perusal of it , afterwards , I shall feel deeply obliged . — A . F . A . "WOODFORD , CO ., Swillington , Leeds .

TILE FREEMASONS OF NEWPORT , SOUTH WALES . The following fact is so creditable to the Freemasons of Newport , that it deserves to bo made a note of . It is extracted from the Guardian newspaper : — "A letter in the Times states that Mr . Samuel Baldwin Rogers , of Nant-y-glo , the inventor of iron bottoms for puddling furnaces—an invention of national importance—died in

great poverty last week , at Newport , aged 90 , and was only saved from a pauper ' s grave by the charity of thc Freemasons of the town . An imbecile daughter survives , and efforts are now being made in South Wales to save her from thc workhouse . " —PALMAM QUI MERUIT FERAT . —[ When residing at tho Blaineau , some twentytwo and long before wo were initiatedwe

years ago , , ¦ were well acquainted with Bro . Bogcrs , who was a man far in advance of his times . A favourite scheme of his , and one not so Utopian as certain interested companies pronounced it , was to collect tho immense quantities of gas , driven off into the open air , from all the iron-works in "Wales , to convey it to London , along the Great Western Railway , lighting thc chief towns on thc route ,

the whole of the metropolis , and the entire lino from one end to the other , and finally to supply tho same all over the country by thc lines of railway . This plan , gigantic as it was , would have most wonderfully enriched the iron-works in Wales , abolished the monopolies of gas companies , and by utilising that which is , to this very hour , wasted in quantities that defy figures to

represent it , economised the consumption of fuel—a subject now attracting considerable attention—and removed from the neighbourhood of numberless large towns , the metropolis included , thc pestiferous gas works which pollute the atmosphere and damage much valuable property . When coal becomes dearer and gas more used as an article of fuel—perhaps somo century

hence—then will poor Bro . Roger ' s scheme come to be appreciated , and the country may honour his remains with a stone monument whilst his discoveries were deemed unworthy of bread . Let us hope the brethren of Newport will not relax in their kind offices towards his imbecile daughter ; and to every brother , who can spare the means , we would say , contribute your mite . ]—E . R .

MAD ON FREEMASONRY . My business takes me occasionally to a printing office where a Masonic periodical was once printed , and I have to confer with a very intelligent compositor who , alas 1 for my comfort , knows I am a Freemason . He , it appears , set one or two volumes of that periodical , and , as he is a steady man , much respected in thc office , served

his apprenticeship there , and in every other way as sane as I am , is tolerated by his employers , who say , " He ' s a little gone on one subject , you know what ; but don't allude to it . " Well , I do my business with him all right enough , and turn to leave , when he catches mo by the button and says ,- — "Mr . , havo you been able to manage that little affair for me yet ? Because I know

that several Freemasons called on the governor yesterday ( or the day before ) , and they do persecute me So I'm sure I shan ' t be right in my head much longer if they go on like this . Do get me made a Freemason . " I have repeatedly told him the principles of the Order are to be truthful , and that no Freemason would seek to annoy him—whichfor the timepacifies him ; but the

, , same thing recurs on every visit . He is a good husband , bears an excellent character in the house alluded to , and is altogether as rational as I am on every other subject . Should I be doing wrong to propose him for initiation ? It might save , or restore , a very estimable man to reason if he saw what the Craft is . —A READER .

BROTHER FRANCIS CREW . Is Brother Francis Crew living or dead ? When he was actively at work for tho Girls' School he was seen everywhere ; but now his name is seldom mentioned , and although I havo not noticed his decease recorded in THE MAGAZINE it may have escaped me , so I ask the question . •—A COUNTRY SUBSCRIBER . —[ Brother Crew is , we are

happy to say , alive and better than we expected from his affliction . About three weeks ago we called upon him , and found him actually improved in looks . True , poor fellow , he is paralysed and has lost the use of his speech , but is able to say " yes" and " no" to all that is said to him . With these exceptions every one of his faculties are in as good a state as ever . Indeedhe went so far as to

, sing a snatch of a song , omitting the words—and there was the remains of his once clear and musical voice . We stayed with him above an hour , and his niece , who is an admirable interpreter of his wants and ideas , told us he felt the old proverb , " Out of sight out of mind , " very much , for at one time some of the brethren used to drop

in and talk to him , but only a few did so now ; and this she attributed to a report that had been spread abroad that he was imbecile . God have mercy , wo say , on the man that invented such an untruth ! Bro . Crew endorsed all she said . He showed us his arm and side ( that which was unaffected ) , to prove how good his health was . To every question we put to him he returned

a most intelligible " yes " or " no , " and was pleased to intimate that he should be glad to see us again . Bro . Francis Crew is as hearty as any man can be , gifted with all his intellects in their full vigour , and , we think , deserving of a little more attention from the Craft than he receives . A few minutes' chat with him occasionally would bo but a friendly actand to such a brother little

, courtesies of this kind would be a bright spot in his hour of trial . We are very glad " A Country Subscriber " has put the question to us , because we can answer it in a way that will be gratifying to hundreds . In our turn we should like to ask a question , —Is Bro . Crew ' s portrait as forgotten and neglected as himself ; and at whoso door lies the blame F ]

MASONIC DEGREES . Could one really believe that " Delta ' s" notes and queries are meant bond fide to advance Masonic truth and extend Masonic knowledge , one should have little difficulty in giving a satisfactory response to his almost innumerable communications , " de omnibus rebus efc quibusdam aliis . "

But I confess , having already had a little experience of " Delta ' s" controversial theories , that I cannot otherwise regard them than as " sensation" notes , raising up endless " vexata quosstiones , " stirring up endless controversies , and treading with irreverent footstep on what , as Masons , we have been taught to consider hitherto " holy ground . "

When " Delta , " for instance , iu tho very last number of THE MAGAZINE , gives vent to this reckless expression of individual opinion— " I feel convinced that the F . C . degree has been recently foisted into the system , " ho quietly ignores those most interesting communications from our Bro . D . Murray Lyon which should have served , one is led to think , to point out even to him

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