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Masonic Charity.

whether these queries are put by an incognito or not . They must either be explained , or they resolve themselves into charges from which conclusions may be drawn . The Treasurer of Lodge 600 may be proud of his productions ; ho is evidently yearning for fame , but his achievement is now the property of others , and no subtlety can win it back . He cannot even take shelter

under the subterfuge of "the exercise of your discretion . " He would like a personal altercation , but the ¦ matter is now in the hands of the Masonic world , to whom his lodge must answer .

Lodge 600 is required , first , to explain as to Table 1—which divides the funds amongst a number of institiP -tions—whether these institutions , and these divisions , have any solid foundation ? It is further required to answer for the sums . voted in its Table 2 ; also as to its apparent neglect of the real Masonic institutions . Fur'ther , it is asked to explain as to its members , and various

circumstances connected with them . The questions in full appeared in your impression of the 19 th inst . Lodge No . 600 has promulgated a system , and has put forth ¦ institutions , which it is challenged to defend . It has paraded its members , which it is asked to vouch for . IDS statements , having been publicly made , cannot be privately answered . There can be little difficulty in this

if the members are not , along with the institutions , in ¦ ntibibus . Silence on the part of No . 600 must amount to a confession that its Tables are a " mockery , delusion , and snare . " I am , yours truly and fraternally , _ INVESTIGATOR . London , Sept . 29 th , 1863 .

The Boys' School.

THE BOYS' SCHOOL .

"TO THE EDITOB OP TIIE PBEEMASO-TS' MAGAZIWE AJfD MASO-tIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —A writer , under the signature "Masonic , " in your number for September 19 th , inquires how he can vote for eight candidates at the Tiext election to the Masonic Institution for Boys , he having , as I infer from his letter , paid for one vote . If he is an old subscriber he has a riht to record one

g vote at every election for as many boys as are to be elected , in the present case eight , but he cannot accumulate them in favour of one or more ; or he can , if he is . much interested in any case , give what , in Parliamentary language , is called a plumper—that is , foregoing his right to vote for all , and giving his one vote in favour of one candidate . This is the plan I mean to adopt . If my

votes are not allowed to pass , I subscribe no more to the Institution -, for to deprive mo of my votes would be ii fraud on tho part of the managers of the Institution . Yours fraternally , AN OLD SUBSCRIBER . [ We look upon it that the intention of the new law was to limit the votes absolutely to one for any sub--scription . l

Can A Warden Initiate, &C.

CAN A WARDEN INITIATE , & c .

TO THE EDITOR OP THE PBEEKASOXS' MAGAZINE AHD MASOHrO MIBBOB . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —The question of a Warden ' s power to perform our Masonic ceremonies has been often mooted in your columns . You have never hesitated to give a positive opinion ou the subject , and that opinion will be always received with the respect due to your high standinin the Craftbutin the absence of judicial

g ; , a decision , so authoritative as to be final , the only course left forthoso of ns who are called on to pronounce on this point is to solicit , through the medium of THE -MAGAZINE , the opinions of brethren more able and more experienced than ourselves , and by that means to endeavour to arrive at a uniformity of procedure . The

provision of the " Book of Constitutions" runs as follows : — " In the Master ' s absence , the immediate Past Master , or , if he be absent , the senior Past Master of the lodge present , shall take the chair . And if no Past Master of the lodge be present , then the Senior Warden , or , in his absence , the Junior Warden , shall rule the lodge . " Passing over certain points , to which exception may not

improperly be taken , the great difficulty lies in the two expressions , "take the chair" and "ride the lodge . " Are these expressions synonymous ? Or , is the Warden to rule without taking tits chair ? And , if so , what is the precise meaning of the word rule ? I think that I am correct in saying that by far the greater number of our English brethren maintain that

the difference of expression imports a difference of meaning . They believe that the Warden , when he rules the lodge , exercises a power far inferior to that of a W . M . or P . M . who ialt-es ilia chair . This difference , according to some , consists in the ability of a Warden to perform the ceremonies ; whilst others , allowing him that privilege , require him , when exercising it , to take up his

position on one side or the other of the Master ' s chair . Both are agreed that , if a Warden place himself in the Master ' s chair , he violates the " Book of Constitutions , " and even removes an ancient landmark . Nor are those who hold these opinions most stringently at a loss for arguments wherewith to support their views . They cite the ceremony of installation as evidence that none but

those who have been thus solemnly inducted can ever occupy the chair : they assert that a lodge is not complete unless presided over by the W . M ., or by one who has been an installed Master : they argue that if , in the interpretation of an ambiguous phrase , the highest prerogative of the Chair is thus conferred on the inferior officers , Masonry thereby loses one of its chief ornaments and one of its most instructive lessons : they tell us that , apart from the supposed authority of the " Book of Constitutions , " a Warden has no greater antecedent right

to perform these ceremonies than a Deacon , or a Master Mason who has never held office ; and that it is impossible for any one below the rank of an installed Master to make the announcement which succeeds an important communication , in the ceremony of closing a Master Mason's lodge . They even fetch an illustration from the usages of a sectional Church , and profess that , as none

but a Bishop can make a Priest , so none but a Master or Past Master can make a Mason ; and , finally , they appeal to the all but universal practice of Masonic lodges , and protest against the innovation as ill-advised and uncalled for . With equal positiveness and equal obstinacy , some brethren contend for what they call the "Wardens '

rights . " They ask what the word " rule " means , if it does not imply that the Warden is to take the chair . It cannot refer to his power to summon the lodge , for his authority in that respect is expressly derived under another clause of the Constitutions . It cannot refer to his right to maintain order , without occupying the chair , for to charge one brother with that dutywhilst another

, is presiding in lodge , is to introduce such confusion as will effectually deprive a lodge of its right to be called a " regular assembly or duly organised meeting of Masons . " But if the " rule" of a Warden neither qualifies him to assemble the brethren , nor to exercise authority over them when assembled , it must be a model of that constitution which attracted the admiration of M . Thiers , in which

" le roi regne mais ne gouverne pas . " They also cite the authority of the ancient charges , in the fourth section of which the Grand Master , the Deputy Grand Master , the Grand Wardens , together with the Masters and Wardens of private lodges , are styled " riders and governors , supreme and subordinate . " They tell us that the warrant is addressed to the Master and Wardens and their successors , not to Past Masters , immediate or senior . "With respect to the solemn announcement before alluded to , they declare it to be as impossible for a Past Master as

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CONSTITUTION OF ITALIAN FREEMASONRY. Article 1
AUSTRALASIAN FREEMASONS AND DESTITUTE CHILDREN'S SOCIETY. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 3
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
MASONIC CHARITY. Article 6
THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 7
CAN A WARDEN INITIATE, &c. Article 7
AN IMPOSTOR. Article 8
PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGES. Article 8
Obituary. Article 8
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
SCOTLAND. Article 12
IRELAND. Article 13
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
AUSTRALIA. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 17
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 17
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Charity.

whether these queries are put by an incognito or not . They must either be explained , or they resolve themselves into charges from which conclusions may be drawn . The Treasurer of Lodge 600 may be proud of his productions ; ho is evidently yearning for fame , but his achievement is now the property of others , and no subtlety can win it back . He cannot even take shelter

under the subterfuge of "the exercise of your discretion . " He would like a personal altercation , but the ¦ matter is now in the hands of the Masonic world , to whom his lodge must answer .

Lodge 600 is required , first , to explain as to Table 1—which divides the funds amongst a number of institiP -tions—whether these institutions , and these divisions , have any solid foundation ? It is further required to answer for the sums . voted in its Table 2 ; also as to its apparent neglect of the real Masonic institutions . Fur'ther , it is asked to explain as to its members , and various

circumstances connected with them . The questions in full appeared in your impression of the 19 th inst . Lodge No . 600 has promulgated a system , and has put forth ¦ institutions , which it is challenged to defend . It has paraded its members , which it is asked to vouch for . IDS statements , having been publicly made , cannot be privately answered . There can be little difficulty in this

if the members are not , along with the institutions , in ¦ ntibibus . Silence on the part of No . 600 must amount to a confession that its Tables are a " mockery , delusion , and snare . " I am , yours truly and fraternally , _ INVESTIGATOR . London , Sept . 29 th , 1863 .

The Boys' School.

THE BOYS' SCHOOL .

"TO THE EDITOB OP TIIE PBEEMASO-TS' MAGAZIWE AJfD MASO-tIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —A writer , under the signature "Masonic , " in your number for September 19 th , inquires how he can vote for eight candidates at the Tiext election to the Masonic Institution for Boys , he having , as I infer from his letter , paid for one vote . If he is an old subscriber he has a riht to record one

g vote at every election for as many boys as are to be elected , in the present case eight , but he cannot accumulate them in favour of one or more ; or he can , if he is . much interested in any case , give what , in Parliamentary language , is called a plumper—that is , foregoing his right to vote for all , and giving his one vote in favour of one candidate . This is the plan I mean to adopt . If my

votes are not allowed to pass , I subscribe no more to the Institution -, for to deprive mo of my votes would be ii fraud on tho part of the managers of the Institution . Yours fraternally , AN OLD SUBSCRIBER . [ We look upon it that the intention of the new law was to limit the votes absolutely to one for any sub--scription . l

Can A Warden Initiate, &C.

CAN A WARDEN INITIATE , & c .

TO THE EDITOR OP THE PBEEKASOXS' MAGAZINE AHD MASOHrO MIBBOB . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —The question of a Warden ' s power to perform our Masonic ceremonies has been often mooted in your columns . You have never hesitated to give a positive opinion ou the subject , and that opinion will be always received with the respect due to your high standinin the Craftbutin the absence of judicial

g ; , a decision , so authoritative as to be final , the only course left forthoso of ns who are called on to pronounce on this point is to solicit , through the medium of THE -MAGAZINE , the opinions of brethren more able and more experienced than ourselves , and by that means to endeavour to arrive at a uniformity of procedure . The

provision of the " Book of Constitutions" runs as follows : — " In the Master ' s absence , the immediate Past Master , or , if he be absent , the senior Past Master of the lodge present , shall take the chair . And if no Past Master of the lodge be present , then the Senior Warden , or , in his absence , the Junior Warden , shall rule the lodge . " Passing over certain points , to which exception may not

improperly be taken , the great difficulty lies in the two expressions , "take the chair" and "ride the lodge . " Are these expressions synonymous ? Or , is the Warden to rule without taking tits chair ? And , if so , what is the precise meaning of the word rule ? I think that I am correct in saying that by far the greater number of our English brethren maintain that

the difference of expression imports a difference of meaning . They believe that the Warden , when he rules the lodge , exercises a power far inferior to that of a W . M . or P . M . who ialt-es ilia chair . This difference , according to some , consists in the ability of a Warden to perform the ceremonies ; whilst others , allowing him that privilege , require him , when exercising it , to take up his

position on one side or the other of the Master ' s chair . Both are agreed that , if a Warden place himself in the Master ' s chair , he violates the " Book of Constitutions , " and even removes an ancient landmark . Nor are those who hold these opinions most stringently at a loss for arguments wherewith to support their views . They cite the ceremony of installation as evidence that none but

those who have been thus solemnly inducted can ever occupy the chair : they assert that a lodge is not complete unless presided over by the W . M ., or by one who has been an installed Master : they argue that if , in the interpretation of an ambiguous phrase , the highest prerogative of the Chair is thus conferred on the inferior officers , Masonry thereby loses one of its chief ornaments and one of its most instructive lessons : they tell us that , apart from the supposed authority of the " Book of Constitutions , " a Warden has no greater antecedent right

to perform these ceremonies than a Deacon , or a Master Mason who has never held office ; and that it is impossible for any one below the rank of an installed Master to make the announcement which succeeds an important communication , in the ceremony of closing a Master Mason's lodge . They even fetch an illustration from the usages of a sectional Church , and profess that , as none

but a Bishop can make a Priest , so none but a Master or Past Master can make a Mason ; and , finally , they appeal to the all but universal practice of Masonic lodges , and protest against the innovation as ill-advised and uncalled for . With equal positiveness and equal obstinacy , some brethren contend for what they call the "Wardens '

rights . " They ask what the word " rule " means , if it does not imply that the Warden is to take the chair . It cannot refer to his power to summon the lodge , for his authority in that respect is expressly derived under another clause of the Constitutions . It cannot refer to his right to maintain order , without occupying the chair , for to charge one brother with that dutywhilst another

, is presiding in lodge , is to introduce such confusion as will effectually deprive a lodge of its right to be called a " regular assembly or duly organised meeting of Masons . " But if the " rule" of a Warden neither qualifies him to assemble the brethren , nor to exercise authority over them when assembled , it must be a model of that constitution which attracted the admiration of M . Thiers , in which

" le roi regne mais ne gouverne pas . " They also cite the authority of the ancient charges , in the fourth section of which the Grand Master , the Deputy Grand Master , the Grand Wardens , together with the Masters and Wardens of private lodges , are styled " riders and governors , supreme and subordinate . " They tell us that the warrant is addressed to the Master and Wardens and their successors , not to Past Masters , immediate or senior . "With respect to the solemn announcement before alluded to , they declare it to be as impossible for a Past Master as

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