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altogether friendl y expressions occasionally resulting therefrom , proceed , I find , from the apathetic or careless section of our community , and not , I am happy to say , from earnest , active brethren , whose diligence keeps them well-informed as to the great work set us to do , and who are never weary in assisting iu that work . For myselfI would wish to lead no stronger

, p justification than that derived from the facts presented in the voting papers , just issued , of the ensuing election , wherein will be found the names of fifty - three applicants for admission , nine only of whom can be elected , though we have accommodation for as many more . Can I—can anyone—need a more

forcible stimulus than that supplied by a realisation of the painful feeling embodied in the aggregate disappointment of forty-four deserving objects of our sympath y , their stricken and distressed relatives and friends . Yours fraternally , FREDERICK : BINCKES , 6 , Freemasons' Hall , W . C , 21 st Sept ., 1868 .

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D . P . G . M .

TO THE EDIXOH OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Being a London Mason , I am not very well acquainted with Provincial distinctions . We make very small account of Provincial Masons at our lodge . As they have different clothing , we generally sit them down after the M . M . ' s of London lod iving London its rightful precedence

ges , g of the country , and then we put all the Provincials , without troubling ourselves about their clothing , together , unless sometimes a London Apprentice , who is not known , may be put after them . I am quite surprised to find that they sometimes receive Grand Office in Grand Lodgebut do not

, well know the distinctions , if any , between G . S . B ., and Deputy Grand Masters , and should like to be enlightened . Which is the highest dignitary in the Provinces ; the Sword Bearer , the D . P . G . M ., or the Grand Pursuivant ? We have none of these in Craft Lodgesand we do not to Grand Lod If we

, go ge . have by mistake put a D . P . G . M . above a S . B . or P . M . of a lodge we should be very sorry . Yours fraternally , A LONDON MASON .

Tavern , E ., Sept . 30 , 1 S 6 S . 10 THE EDITOR OE THE EBEEHASOHS' MAOAZDrE AtfD MASONIC HUIKOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Your correspondent , "Another D . P . G . M ., ' ' is noticing my former communicationis amusinglfacetious as to the

recogni-, y tion of the Craft in general and by tbe M . W . G . M . of the status and services of the D . P . G . M . ' s , and the dignified position in Grand Lodge to which , as a reward for many years' service as the representatives , not only of theE . W . P . G . M . ' s , but ofthe M . W . G . M . in their respective provinces , a few of the more

fortunate ones may look forward . The remarks of " Another D . P . G . M . " recalled to my mind , and inclined me to laugh heartily at the recollection of an incident connected with Grand Lodge iu my younger days . As a D . P . G . M . I am " no chicken , " but a good many years ago when , newly fledged , I was spending

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a few days in town , I was reminded at a private lodge that a quarterly communication of Grand Lodge would take place on the following Wednesday evening . Accordingly I determined to be present , and , doubtless , thinking myself , as the deputy ruler of a province , a constellation of no small magnitude in the Masonic hemisphereI presented myself in the

, ante-room with all my blushing honours thick upon me—collar , jewel , and all—forgetting that at headquarters I only possessed the rank of a "full private . " After signing my name , official rank , & c , I was about to pass into the Temple , when I was suddenly stopped by one of the brethren iu attendance saying , "You

cannot be admitted in that collar and jewel ; we don't know them here " ( and , of course , legally , he was quite right ) . Greatly crestfallen I went across the way and borrowed—either of Bro . Spencer or his predecessor , Bro . Evans—a P-M . ' s collar and jewel , again presenting myself for admission . Once more I

was stopped by the remark , " You have uo right to wear these gauntlets here . " I began to think I was in the position of the daw in borrowed plumes , and was going to be strip t , when another brother suggested , " Suppose we let him pass , and see whether he'll be allowed to remain with them . " Upon this I

was admitted ; and , although it was not my first visit to Grand Lodge , I was so impressed with my reception that I departed both "a sadder and a wiser man , " and , although a good many years have now elapsed , I have only once since that event put in an appearance there . Doubtless my vanity- as a young official from the country required to be repressed , and it was done thoroughly ! But , joking apart , I have

not given these details simply as a personal matter , but as a humble member of a class of Masons who " have done the state service , " and which ought to be thought worthy of greater recognition than it receives . It is a well known fact that , in the great majority of provinces , the whole of the work belonging to the office of Prov . G . M . is done by the D . Prov . G . M .,

and that , although not a few Prov . G . Masters are active and zealous rulers , even in most of those in J stances the chief part of the unseen labour is done by the Deputy . Kow , surely , one who , perhaps for years , has had the whole of the active rule of a Masonic province in his handsand consequently ( as your

, correspondent truly observes ) " representing not only the ft . W . Prov . G . M ., but the M . W . G . M , " is equitably entitled to hold , ex officio , a higher position in the Great Council of the Craft than is accorded to the mere P . M . of a private lodge , too many of whom , as is well knownhave passed through the chair without

, having qualified themselves to perforin its duties . It seems to me logically just that , as in the table of precedence in Grand Lodge , the D . G . M . ( if there be no Prov . G . M . ) ranks next after the G . M ., so ought the D . P . G . M . 's to rank next to the P . G . M . ' s . This opinion , ! know , will be met , in limine , by the objection

that , as the P . G . M . ' s appoint their Deputies , if this , or any other position in Grand Lodge , were accorded to them ex officio , it would be an interference with the prerogative of the M . W . G . M ., who is the fount of all honours iu Grand Lodge except that of Treasurer . This difficulty might , however , be easily remedied by the M . W . G . M . appointing the Deputies on the nomination or recommendation of the P . G . M . ' s , during pleasure or for a limited time , the office becoming

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THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 1
ASSOCIATION OF GERMAN FREEMASONS.† Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
D.P.G.M. Article 10
RE S. SAX AND OTHERS. Article 11
ZETLAND TESTIMONIAL OR FESTIVAL. Article 11
A MASONIC AND GENERAL LIBRARY OF REFERENCE FOR THE FREEMASONS' HALL. Article 11
GRAND LODGE OF MARK MASTERS. Article 11
ZETLAND TESTIMONIAL OR MEMORIAL. Article 12
IMPORTANT MASONIC CONFERENCE. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
SCOTLAND. Article 17
IRELAND. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
RED CROSS KNIGHTS OF CONSTANTINE. Article 19
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
MASONIC FETE CHAMPETRE. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC, FOR THE WEEK ENDING OCTOBER 10TH, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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altogether friendl y expressions occasionally resulting therefrom , proceed , I find , from the apathetic or careless section of our community , and not , I am happy to say , from earnest , active brethren , whose diligence keeps them well-informed as to the great work set us to do , and who are never weary in assisting iu that work . For myselfI would wish to lead no stronger

, p justification than that derived from the facts presented in the voting papers , just issued , of the ensuing election , wherein will be found the names of fifty - three applicants for admission , nine only of whom can be elected , though we have accommodation for as many more . Can I—can anyone—need a more

forcible stimulus than that supplied by a realisation of the painful feeling embodied in the aggregate disappointment of forty-four deserving objects of our sympath y , their stricken and distressed relatives and friends . Yours fraternally , FREDERICK : BINCKES , 6 , Freemasons' Hall , W . C , 21 st Sept ., 1868 .

D.P.G.M.

D . P . G . M .

TO THE EDIXOH OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Being a London Mason , I am not very well acquainted with Provincial distinctions . We make very small account of Provincial Masons at our lodge . As they have different clothing , we generally sit them down after the M . M . ' s of London lod iving London its rightful precedence

ges , g of the country , and then we put all the Provincials , without troubling ourselves about their clothing , together , unless sometimes a London Apprentice , who is not known , may be put after them . I am quite surprised to find that they sometimes receive Grand Office in Grand Lodgebut do not

, well know the distinctions , if any , between G . S . B ., and Deputy Grand Masters , and should like to be enlightened . Which is the highest dignitary in the Provinces ; the Sword Bearer , the D . P . G . M ., or the Grand Pursuivant ? We have none of these in Craft Lodgesand we do not to Grand Lod If we

, go ge . have by mistake put a D . P . G . M . above a S . B . or P . M . of a lodge we should be very sorry . Yours fraternally , A LONDON MASON .

Tavern , E ., Sept . 30 , 1 S 6 S . 10 THE EDITOR OE THE EBEEHASOHS' MAOAZDrE AtfD MASONIC HUIKOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Your correspondent , "Another D . P . G . M ., ' ' is noticing my former communicationis amusinglfacetious as to the

recogni-, y tion of the Craft in general and by tbe M . W . G . M . of the status and services of the D . P . G . M . ' s , and the dignified position in Grand Lodge to which , as a reward for many years' service as the representatives , not only of theE . W . P . G . M . ' s , but ofthe M . W . G . M . in their respective provinces , a few of the more

fortunate ones may look forward . The remarks of " Another D . P . G . M . " recalled to my mind , and inclined me to laugh heartily at the recollection of an incident connected with Grand Lodge iu my younger days . As a D . P . G . M . I am " no chicken , " but a good many years ago when , newly fledged , I was spending

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a few days in town , I was reminded at a private lodge that a quarterly communication of Grand Lodge would take place on the following Wednesday evening . Accordingly I determined to be present , and , doubtless , thinking myself , as the deputy ruler of a province , a constellation of no small magnitude in the Masonic hemisphereI presented myself in the

, ante-room with all my blushing honours thick upon me—collar , jewel , and all—forgetting that at headquarters I only possessed the rank of a "full private . " After signing my name , official rank , & c , I was about to pass into the Temple , when I was suddenly stopped by one of the brethren iu attendance saying , "You

cannot be admitted in that collar and jewel ; we don't know them here " ( and , of course , legally , he was quite right ) . Greatly crestfallen I went across the way and borrowed—either of Bro . Spencer or his predecessor , Bro . Evans—a P-M . ' s collar and jewel , again presenting myself for admission . Once more I

was stopped by the remark , " You have uo right to wear these gauntlets here . " I began to think I was in the position of the daw in borrowed plumes , and was going to be strip t , when another brother suggested , " Suppose we let him pass , and see whether he'll be allowed to remain with them . " Upon this I

was admitted ; and , although it was not my first visit to Grand Lodge , I was so impressed with my reception that I departed both "a sadder and a wiser man , " and , although a good many years have now elapsed , I have only once since that event put in an appearance there . Doubtless my vanity- as a young official from the country required to be repressed , and it was done thoroughly ! But , joking apart , I have

not given these details simply as a personal matter , but as a humble member of a class of Masons who " have done the state service , " and which ought to be thought worthy of greater recognition than it receives . It is a well known fact that , in the great majority of provinces , the whole of the work belonging to the office of Prov . G . M . is done by the D . Prov . G . M .,

and that , although not a few Prov . G . Masters are active and zealous rulers , even in most of those in J stances the chief part of the unseen labour is done by the Deputy . Kow , surely , one who , perhaps for years , has had the whole of the active rule of a Masonic province in his handsand consequently ( as your

, correspondent truly observes ) " representing not only the ft . W . Prov . G . M ., but the M . W . G . M , " is equitably entitled to hold , ex officio , a higher position in the Great Council of the Craft than is accorded to the mere P . M . of a private lodge , too many of whom , as is well knownhave passed through the chair without

, having qualified themselves to perforin its duties . It seems to me logically just that , as in the table of precedence in Grand Lodge , the D . G . M . ( if there be no Prov . G . M . ) ranks next after the G . M ., so ought the D . P . G . M . 's to rank next to the P . G . M . ' s . This opinion , ! know , will be met , in limine , by the objection

that , as the P . G . M . ' s appoint their Deputies , if this , or any other position in Grand Lodge , were accorded to them ex officio , it would be an interference with the prerogative of the M . W . G . M ., who is the fount of all honours iu Grand Lodge except that of Treasurer . This difficulty might , however , be easily remedied by the M . W . G . M . appointing the Deputies on the nomination or recommendation of the P . G . M . ' s , during pleasure or for a limited time , the office becoming

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