Skip to main content
Museum of Freemasonry

Masonic Periodicals Online

  • Explore
  • Advanced Search
  • Home
  • Explore
  • The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine
  • Oct. 3, 1868
  • Page 8
Current:

The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine, Oct. 3, 1868: Page 8

  • Back to The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine, Oct. 3, 1868
  • Print image
  • Articles/Ads
    Article MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. ← Page 2 of 3
    Article MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Page 2 of 3 →
Page 8

Note: This text has been automatically extracted via Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software.

Masonic Notes And Queries.

condition of Christianity correct . But are those notions correct ? I think not . My brother plainly belongs to the same school of philosophy as the late Monsieur Jonffroy . I therefore recommend to his consideration the ensuing passage , taken from that distinguished Professor ' s lecture , " Du Probleme de la Destinee Humaine : "—

" La mission sublime du Christianisme , elle est loin , bien loin d'etre accomplie sur la terre . Elle ne l ' est pas meme entierement dans ce pays , que sa civilization place a la tete de l'humanite ; elle est plus loiu encore de l ' etre dans les autres parties de l'Europe ; et elle est h peine commencee dans le

reste du inonde . Ceux-la , sont bien avengles qui s'imaginent que le Christianisme est fini , quand il lui rest tante de chosee a faire . Le Christianisme verra mourir bien des doctrines qui ont la pretention de lui succeder . Tout ce qui a ete preclit de lui s ' aecomplira . La conquete du monde lui est reservee , et il sera la derniere des religions . " - —From Bro . PUETON COOPEE ' Masonic Letter Book , June , 1866 .

MYSTIC NUMBERS . One is tlie number of Ereemasonry , and stands in all societies—ancient and modern—for the Creator . In the Pythagorian , Hebrew , and Rosicrucian mysteries , it—the Monad—represents the central fire-God , without beginning and without end—the point within

tlie circle . It also denotes piety , friendship , harmony , peace , and love . It symbolises identity , equality , existence , and universal preservation . I purpose Bending to the Magazine an article on this subject shortly . —A . ONEAL HAYE .

THE M . W . BEO . J . WHYTE MELVILLE , ESQ . Bro . C . ( Edinburgh ) is not quite correct as to dates . The Immediate Past Grand Master Mason of Scotland—the M . W . Bro . John Whyte Melville , of Bennochy and Strathkiness—was , as far back as the year 1819 a member of an English lodge . It is the

, "Royal Clarence Lodge" ( now No . 271 ) , Brighton , Sussex , that had the honour of enrolling him as an affiliated and joining member ; he was proposed Nov . 17 , 1819 , and balloted for and approved Dec . 15 , 1819 , and continued a member during his residence in Sussex in the years 1819-20 & 21 . —L . K .

PRICHABD . In consequence of S . ¥ . Bro . Purton Cooper ' s note on Prichard , I take the opportunity of repeating au observation that it is very questionable whether Prichard was a Mason , as he has mixed up the second and third degrees . His book has the appearance of being made up of a ritual of the first degree and of imperfect memoranda of the second aud third . —HYDE ' CLARKE .

SCOTCH . In England wo say Scotch- and Scotchmen , as French and Frenchmen . In Scotland , of late years , some have taken to saying Scottish , but still many natives of that distinguished country are not ashamed of calling themselvesand being stled Scotchmen

, y , Avhich has long been considered a title of honour , though W . P . B . now thinks differently . I very much fear it is rather late in the day to put down the word in England . —A SCOTCH MASON , BUT NOT A SCOTCHMAN .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

GLASGOW CATHEDRAL . Some years ago , while spending a few days in Glasgow , I paid a visit to its magnificent cathedral , and in a short time succeeded in obtaining copies of over a hundred different marks . It is a pity some brother in Glasgow does not devote himself to this subject . In Jocelin ' s crypt there are the following lines : —

" Our life ' s a flying shallow , God's tlie pole : The index pointing to him , is our soul : Death's the horizon , when onr sun is set AVhich will through Christ a resurrection get . " A . ONEAL HAYE

BRO . "ft . " Bro . "ft ., " in a letter entitled "The Creed of Ereemasonry" ( pago 190 of the present volume ) , evidently speaks of Speculative Masonry as a universal institution . Speculative masonry , as a universal institution , is a pure Theism . It is

philosophically incorrect to call it a pure Deism . See my communication , "Theism , Deism , " ante page 170 . Christian Speculative Masonry , Jewish Speculative Masonry , Parsee Speculative Masonry , and Mahommedan Speculative Masonry , when , as in our admirable English Speculative Masonry , there is superinducement and adoption of fitting toleration , becomes Universal Speculative Masonry , and may rightly beE considered a pure Theism . —0 . P . COOPEE .

CANON OE CRITICISM . It is very awkward to discuss a question about the immortality of the soul in the Freemasons' Magazine , and with a Bro . Eosa . Crucis , who finds out that Moses wrote the Book of Job . "When we have got as far as this , and which Eosa Crucis and many very respectable people believe , we are in danger of

discussing whether Moses wrote the books of Moses-—matters very clear to Rosa Crucis and his friends , but under discussion among scholars . Under these circumstances the time has perhaps come when , as in other scientific matters , we can cease to introduce the Bible as a scientific authority in matters of science , and reserve its sanctity for its proper domain . —ft . T .

EEEEMASONS AND FREESTONE . If " Freemasonry " is derived from Freestone , meaning Freestone-Mason , as Bro . Wyatt Papworth states , is "Freeborn" desived from Freestone born ? In my humble opinion , this is just as likely , but I should not like to be too positive about it till I see it in print . Please print this . —W . HARRIS , P . M .

PICTUS DEPICTAJS . As King Solomon ( p . 230 ) did not use the Grecian , Corinthian , or the five orders , Avhat are the " three '" Greek orders he did use ? If masonry be medieval in its form there can be no great harm in preserving a medieval legend of the five orders of architecture , and three cannot be better than five . It is these medieval touches of anachronism which are more truthful than a sham purism . —0 . M . D .

MIRACLES . See my communication , " Miracles " ( vol . 18 , page 66 of this periodical ) . A correspondent is right Change or modification caused by some unknown law of nature , such unknown laiv being the expression of the Will of the Great Architect of the Universe , is , in my apprehension , a miracle . —0 . P . COOPEE .

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1868-10-03, Page 8” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 14 May 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/mmr_03101868/page/8/.
  • List
  • Grid
Title Category Page
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 1
ASSOCIATION OF GERMAN FREEMASONS.† Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
D.P.G.M. Article 10
RE S. SAX AND OTHERS. Article 11
ZETLAND TESTIMONIAL OR FESTIVAL. Article 11
A MASONIC AND GENERAL LIBRARY OF REFERENCE FOR THE FREEMASONS' HALL. Article 11
GRAND LODGE OF MARK MASTERS. Article 11
ZETLAND TESTIMONIAL OR MEMORIAL. Article 12
IMPORTANT MASONIC CONFERENCE. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
SCOTLAND. Article 17
IRELAND. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
RED CROSS KNIGHTS OF CONSTANTINE. Article 19
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
MASONIC FETE CHAMPETRE. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC, FOR THE WEEK ENDING OCTOBER 10TH, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
Page 1

Page 1

2 Articles
Page 2

Page 2

2 Articles
Page 3

Page 3

2 Articles
Page 4

Page 4

3 Articles
Page 5

Page 5

2 Articles
Page 6

Page 6

2 Articles
Page 7

Page 7

3 Articles
Page 8

Page 8

2 Articles
Page 9

Page 9

2 Articles
Page 10

Page 10

3 Articles
Page 11

Page 11

6 Articles
Page 12

Page 12

3 Articles
Page 13

Page 13

2 Articles
Page 14

Page 14

3 Articles
Page 15

Page 15

3 Articles
Page 16

Page 16

2 Articles
Page 17

Page 17

3 Articles
Page 18

Page 18

4 Articles
Page 19

Page 19

5 Articles
Page 20

Page 20

4 Articles
Page 8

Note: This text has been automatically extracted via Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software.

Masonic Notes And Queries.

condition of Christianity correct . But are those notions correct ? I think not . My brother plainly belongs to the same school of philosophy as the late Monsieur Jonffroy . I therefore recommend to his consideration the ensuing passage , taken from that distinguished Professor ' s lecture , " Du Probleme de la Destinee Humaine : "—

" La mission sublime du Christianisme , elle est loin , bien loin d'etre accomplie sur la terre . Elle ne l ' est pas meme entierement dans ce pays , que sa civilization place a la tete de l'humanite ; elle est plus loiu encore de l ' etre dans les autres parties de l'Europe ; et elle est h peine commencee dans le

reste du inonde . Ceux-la , sont bien avengles qui s'imaginent que le Christianisme est fini , quand il lui rest tante de chosee a faire . Le Christianisme verra mourir bien des doctrines qui ont la pretention de lui succeder . Tout ce qui a ete preclit de lui s ' aecomplira . La conquete du monde lui est reservee , et il sera la derniere des religions . " - —From Bro . PUETON COOPEE ' Masonic Letter Book , June , 1866 .

MYSTIC NUMBERS . One is tlie number of Ereemasonry , and stands in all societies—ancient and modern—for the Creator . In the Pythagorian , Hebrew , and Rosicrucian mysteries , it—the Monad—represents the central fire-God , without beginning and without end—the point within

tlie circle . It also denotes piety , friendship , harmony , peace , and love . It symbolises identity , equality , existence , and universal preservation . I purpose Bending to the Magazine an article on this subject shortly . —A . ONEAL HAYE .

THE M . W . BEO . J . WHYTE MELVILLE , ESQ . Bro . C . ( Edinburgh ) is not quite correct as to dates . The Immediate Past Grand Master Mason of Scotland—the M . W . Bro . John Whyte Melville , of Bennochy and Strathkiness—was , as far back as the year 1819 a member of an English lodge . It is the

, "Royal Clarence Lodge" ( now No . 271 ) , Brighton , Sussex , that had the honour of enrolling him as an affiliated and joining member ; he was proposed Nov . 17 , 1819 , and balloted for and approved Dec . 15 , 1819 , and continued a member during his residence in Sussex in the years 1819-20 & 21 . —L . K .

PRICHABD . In consequence of S . ¥ . Bro . Purton Cooper ' s note on Prichard , I take the opportunity of repeating au observation that it is very questionable whether Prichard was a Mason , as he has mixed up the second and third degrees . His book has the appearance of being made up of a ritual of the first degree and of imperfect memoranda of the second aud third . —HYDE ' CLARKE .

SCOTCH . In England wo say Scotch- and Scotchmen , as French and Frenchmen . In Scotland , of late years , some have taken to saying Scottish , but still many natives of that distinguished country are not ashamed of calling themselvesand being stled Scotchmen

, y , Avhich has long been considered a title of honour , though W . P . B . now thinks differently . I very much fear it is rather late in the day to put down the word in England . —A SCOTCH MASON , BUT NOT A SCOTCHMAN .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

GLASGOW CATHEDRAL . Some years ago , while spending a few days in Glasgow , I paid a visit to its magnificent cathedral , and in a short time succeeded in obtaining copies of over a hundred different marks . It is a pity some brother in Glasgow does not devote himself to this subject . In Jocelin ' s crypt there are the following lines : —

" Our life ' s a flying shallow , God's tlie pole : The index pointing to him , is our soul : Death's the horizon , when onr sun is set AVhich will through Christ a resurrection get . " A . ONEAL HAYE

BRO . "ft . " Bro . "ft ., " in a letter entitled "The Creed of Ereemasonry" ( pago 190 of the present volume ) , evidently speaks of Speculative Masonry as a universal institution . Speculative masonry , as a universal institution , is a pure Theism . It is

philosophically incorrect to call it a pure Deism . See my communication , "Theism , Deism , " ante page 170 . Christian Speculative Masonry , Jewish Speculative Masonry , Parsee Speculative Masonry , and Mahommedan Speculative Masonry , when , as in our admirable English Speculative Masonry , there is superinducement and adoption of fitting toleration , becomes Universal Speculative Masonry , and may rightly beE considered a pure Theism . —0 . P . COOPEE .

CANON OE CRITICISM . It is very awkward to discuss a question about the immortality of the soul in the Freemasons' Magazine , and with a Bro . Eosa . Crucis , who finds out that Moses wrote the Book of Job . "When we have got as far as this , and which Eosa Crucis and many very respectable people believe , we are in danger of

discussing whether Moses wrote the books of Moses-—matters very clear to Rosa Crucis and his friends , but under discussion among scholars . Under these circumstances the time has perhaps come when , as in other scientific matters , we can cease to introduce the Bible as a scientific authority in matters of science , and reserve its sanctity for its proper domain . —ft . T .

EEEEMASONS AND FREESTONE . If " Freemasonry " is derived from Freestone , meaning Freestone-Mason , as Bro . Wyatt Papworth states , is "Freeborn" desived from Freestone born ? In my humble opinion , this is just as likely , but I should not like to be too positive about it till I see it in print . Please print this . —W . HARRIS , P . M .

PICTUS DEPICTAJS . As King Solomon ( p . 230 ) did not use the Grecian , Corinthian , or the five orders , Avhat are the " three '" Greek orders he did use ? If masonry be medieval in its form there can be no great harm in preserving a medieval legend of the five orders of architecture , and three cannot be better than five . It is these medieval touches of anachronism which are more truthful than a sham purism . —0 . M . D .

MIRACLES . See my communication , " Miracles " ( vol . 18 , page 66 of this periodical ) . A correspondent is right Change or modification caused by some unknown law of nature , such unknown laiv being the expression of the Will of the Great Architect of the Universe , is , in my apprehension , a miracle . —0 . P . COOPEE .

  • Prev page
  • 1
  • 7
  • You're on page8
  • 9
  • 20
  • Next page
  • Accredited Museum Designated Outstanding Collection
  • LIBRARY AND MUSEUM CHARITABLE TRUST OF THE UNITED GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND REGISTERED CHARITY NUMBER 1058497 / ALL RIGHTS RESERVED © 2025

  • Accessibility statement

  • Designed, developed, and maintained by King's Digital Lab

We use cookies to track usage and preferences.

Privacy & cookie policy