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Masonic Notes And Queries.

for his fare , why should not the horse butcher take out a licence for his fare ? Is New Smithfield meat market to he named the Horse Fair ?—A FREEMASON , BUT NOT A FREE HORSE-EATER . THE BIBLE IN THE ENGLISH LODGE . 1 . The Bible has its place in the English Lodge as

the Sacred Book of a Religion . 2 . Natural Relig ion has no sacred hook . 3 . Therefore the Bible has not its place in the English Lodge as the Sacred Book of Natural Religion . 4 . The Bible comprises the Old Testament and the New Testament . 5 . The Old Testament is the Sacred Book both of Judaism and

Christiauity . 6 . It is not the Sacred Book of any other Positive Reli gion . 7 . The New Testament is the Sacred Book of Christianity . S . It is not the Sacred Book of any other Positive Religion . 9 . It follows that the Bible , inasmuch as it comprises both the Old Testament and the New Testament , cannot

have its place in the English Lodge as the Sacred Book of Judaism . 10 . It also follows , inasmuch a 3 the Old Testament is the Sacred Book of Judaism and Christianity and of no other Positive Religion , and the New Testament is the Sacred Book of Christianity and of no other Positive Reliionthat the

g , Bible , comprising the two , the Old Testameut and the New Testament , has its place in the English Lodge as the Sacred Book of Christianity . —From a deceased Mason ' s memoranda in Bro , Purton Cooper ' s Collect tions .

CYPHER OP THE MARK DEGREE . I was much surprised at a lodge meeting at which I was present during the past week by a Mason of at least ten years' standing , who is also a Mark Master , remarking to me , whilst conversing with a young brother , " Here is something I may show you > but not

Bro . , " meaning my friend , who is not a Mark Mason . To my very great astonishment , he handed me a slip of paper on which the cypher peculiar to the Mark degree was set forth so plainly as to be intelligible to any person able to read aud write .

Is not the possession of such a paper a serious violation of our O . B . ? and , if so , must not such example be productive of bad results amongst our younger brethren ?—JUNIOR WARDEN .

BRO . H . B . WHITE . The communications of Bro . H . B . "White , respecting which an esteemed correspondent inquires , he will find Freemasons' Magazine , vol xv ., p . 70 , aud vol . xvi ., pages 429 , -143 , ' and 46 S . In tho first of those communications is the following passagewhich is

, consistent with everything written by my good brother , that , as well as I recollect , has come under my notice . "A short time since Bro . Charles Purton Cooper stated iu the columns of the Freemasons ' Magazine , devoted to ' Notes and Queries , ' that the religion of English Freemasonry is Christianity with

a toleration in the lodge of all faiths which acknowledge the existence of the Great Architect of the Universe . —I go further than Bro . Cooper and unhesitatingly assert that the religion of all true Masonry on the face of the globe is Christianity ; and that until a Freemason can discern Christianity in Masonry , he has not arrived at a true knowledge of his profession . "—C . P . COOPER .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

WHO ARE TRUE MASONS ? My answer to this question of an Oxford correspondent is that all our brothers who recognise the glorious Architect of Heaven aud Earth , who believe in a future state of rewards and punishments , and who perform the duties enjoined by Natural Theology and by the Moral Law , are true Masons . —C . P . COOPER .

Masonic Exchange.

MASONIC EXCHANGE .

NOTICE . The system of exchanges of objects wanted , by newspaper correspondence , has of late afforded considerable assistance in mutual accommodation , and we are disposed to afford the same facilities to our subscribers .

Communications addressed to us will meet w ith attention . Non-subscribers can remit sixpence in postage stamps for notices to be inserted of objects wanted , or at disposal .

The following inquiries have been received . 1 . D . C . wishes to dispose of some old seals and diplomas . 2 . C . R . has some Mark clothing he would exchange for a Rose Croix apron , & c . 3 . M . M . wishes to exchange a jewel of No . 29 .

4 . A . S . wants a secondhand R . A . suit for travelling . 5 . X . Y . Z . has a set of new clothing for the officers of a lodge under the Grand Orient of France , or Grand Oost of the Netherlands . 6 . T . B . would exchange copies of seals .

7 . "W . J . L . wants rituals of the degrees below the ISth iu English aud French . He does not want what are called philosophic rituals . 8 . R . T . wants the loan of the ritual of the old Templars , which is partly in Latin . 9 . W . H . is open to exchange originals or copies of Masonic documents , charters , & c .

All answers to be addressed ( post paid ) to the respective numbers and initials , Freemasons' Magazine office , Salisbury-street , W . C ., London .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The " Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed l \ j Correspondents , ' H . R . A . DEGREE .

TO THK ED 1 TOH 01 ' THE I'lLKEMASONS' MAGAZINE AMD MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —While enjoying occasional perusals of your valuable Masonic paper after my lodge meetings at Torquay I have been much inte rested by some letters ou the antiquity and advantage or otherwise of the H . R . A . Degree . A brother

calls in question the " cui bono " of such questionings . There is , doubtless , no harm in ventilating matters of doubt between ourselves in your Masonic Mirror . Discussion , properly conducted , will elicit truth ; and your Mirror may reflect , as it does , sage

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AN ANALYSIS OF ANCIENT AND MODERN FREEMASONRY. Article 1
(No. III).—A VISIT TO A FRENCH LODGE. Article 3
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
MASONIC EXCHANGE. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
HEBREW CEREMONIES. Article 10
RED CROSS KNIGHTS OF CONSTANTINE. Article 10
"NOTES AND QUERIES ." Article 11
BRO. METHAM'S ORATION. Article 11
THE GRAND-ORIENT. Article 11
FREEMASONRY AND CHRISTIANITY. Article 12
KING DAVID'S CHARTER. Article 12
THE SOCIETY OF ARTS AND FREEMASONRY. Article 12
MASONIC JEWEL. Article 12
SOUTH HACKNEY DISTRICT. Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
SCOTLAND. Article 14
JAPAN. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
FUNERAL LODGE IN MEMORY OF THE LATE BRO. ISAAC HAWKER BEDFORD, P.M. OF THE HOWE LODGE (No. 587). Article 18
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING APRIL 11TH , 1868. Article 20
HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE AND BRO. S. MAT. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

for his fare , why should not the horse butcher take out a licence for his fare ? Is New Smithfield meat market to he named the Horse Fair ?—A FREEMASON , BUT NOT A FREE HORSE-EATER . THE BIBLE IN THE ENGLISH LODGE . 1 . The Bible has its place in the English Lodge as

the Sacred Book of a Religion . 2 . Natural Relig ion has no sacred hook . 3 . Therefore the Bible has not its place in the English Lodge as the Sacred Book of Natural Religion . 4 . The Bible comprises the Old Testament and the New Testament . 5 . The Old Testament is the Sacred Book both of Judaism and

Christiauity . 6 . It is not the Sacred Book of any other Positive Reli gion . 7 . The New Testament is the Sacred Book of Christianity . S . It is not the Sacred Book of any other Positive Religion . 9 . It follows that the Bible , inasmuch as it comprises both the Old Testament and the New Testament , cannot

have its place in the English Lodge as the Sacred Book of Judaism . 10 . It also follows , inasmuch a 3 the Old Testament is the Sacred Book of Judaism and Christianity and of no other Positive Religion , and the New Testament is the Sacred Book of Christianity and of no other Positive Reliionthat the

g , Bible , comprising the two , the Old Testameut and the New Testament , has its place in the English Lodge as the Sacred Book of Christianity . —From a deceased Mason ' s memoranda in Bro , Purton Cooper ' s Collect tions .

CYPHER OP THE MARK DEGREE . I was much surprised at a lodge meeting at which I was present during the past week by a Mason of at least ten years' standing , who is also a Mark Master , remarking to me , whilst conversing with a young brother , " Here is something I may show you > but not

Bro . , " meaning my friend , who is not a Mark Mason . To my very great astonishment , he handed me a slip of paper on which the cypher peculiar to the Mark degree was set forth so plainly as to be intelligible to any person able to read aud write .

Is not the possession of such a paper a serious violation of our O . B . ? and , if so , must not such example be productive of bad results amongst our younger brethren ?—JUNIOR WARDEN .

BRO . H . B . WHITE . The communications of Bro . H . B . "White , respecting which an esteemed correspondent inquires , he will find Freemasons' Magazine , vol xv ., p . 70 , aud vol . xvi ., pages 429 , -143 , ' and 46 S . In tho first of those communications is the following passagewhich is

, consistent with everything written by my good brother , that , as well as I recollect , has come under my notice . "A short time since Bro . Charles Purton Cooper stated iu the columns of the Freemasons ' Magazine , devoted to ' Notes and Queries , ' that the religion of English Freemasonry is Christianity with

a toleration in the lodge of all faiths which acknowledge the existence of the Great Architect of the Universe . —I go further than Bro . Cooper and unhesitatingly assert that the religion of all true Masonry on the face of the globe is Christianity ; and that until a Freemason can discern Christianity in Masonry , he has not arrived at a true knowledge of his profession . "—C . P . COOPER .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

WHO ARE TRUE MASONS ? My answer to this question of an Oxford correspondent is that all our brothers who recognise the glorious Architect of Heaven aud Earth , who believe in a future state of rewards and punishments , and who perform the duties enjoined by Natural Theology and by the Moral Law , are true Masons . —C . P . COOPER .

Masonic Exchange.

MASONIC EXCHANGE .

NOTICE . The system of exchanges of objects wanted , by newspaper correspondence , has of late afforded considerable assistance in mutual accommodation , and we are disposed to afford the same facilities to our subscribers .

Communications addressed to us will meet w ith attention . Non-subscribers can remit sixpence in postage stamps for notices to be inserted of objects wanted , or at disposal .

The following inquiries have been received . 1 . D . C . wishes to dispose of some old seals and diplomas . 2 . C . R . has some Mark clothing he would exchange for a Rose Croix apron , & c . 3 . M . M . wishes to exchange a jewel of No . 29 .

4 . A . S . wants a secondhand R . A . suit for travelling . 5 . X . Y . Z . has a set of new clothing for the officers of a lodge under the Grand Orient of France , or Grand Oost of the Netherlands . 6 . T . B . would exchange copies of seals .

7 . "W . J . L . wants rituals of the degrees below the ISth iu English aud French . He does not want what are called philosophic rituals . 8 . R . T . wants the loan of the ritual of the old Templars , which is partly in Latin . 9 . W . H . is open to exchange originals or copies of Masonic documents , charters , & c .

All answers to be addressed ( post paid ) to the respective numbers and initials , Freemasons' Magazine office , Salisbury-street , W . C ., London .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The " Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed l \ j Correspondents , ' H . R . A . DEGREE .

TO THK ED 1 TOH 01 ' THE I'lLKEMASONS' MAGAZINE AMD MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —While enjoying occasional perusals of your valuable Masonic paper after my lodge meetings at Torquay I have been much inte rested by some letters ou the antiquity and advantage or otherwise of the H . R . A . Degree . A brother

calls in question the " cui bono " of such questionings . There is , doubtless , no harm in ventilating matters of doubt between ourselves in your Masonic Mirror . Discussion , properly conducted , will elicit truth ; and your Mirror may reflect , as it does , sage

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