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Toleration In Masonic Administration.

work this rite as well as the French rite , and the warrant is granted in due course . The result has vindicated the policy , for of the old Mizraim lodges most have gone . We believe only one is now working the rite , and new lodges that ask for this

ribe soon get rid of it . As to the Ancient and Accepted Rite , the new policy is , we think , now showing results . There is no longer a temptation for Masons under the Grand Orient to go to the Supreme Council to

work what is preferred for its ceremonial , while pacific relationshave been opened with the Supreme Council , which must ultimately bring about a fusion .

It appears well deserving of consideration how far this policy of toleration in Masonic administration is advisable here . In Ireland the matter is settled , and so we may say it is in Scotland , and consequently in all our colonies where Ireland

and Scotland maintain Provincial Grand Masters . In England , as we know , Grand Lodge and Grand Chapter have played fast and loose with the Mark , while they will not allow any meetings under the Templars , the Supreme Council , or the Red Cross

to be held even under the roof of Grand Lodge to the loss of rent , and consequently Grand Officers , members of Grand Lodge , and other Masons go next door to the Masonic property of the tavern , and there hold meetings and banquets . From

time to time the Mark sets up in Bedford-row or the Supreme Council in Soho-square . The Templars trust to excommunicate conclaves older than their own constitution , the Supreme Council

the same , and the latter body has launched the minor excommunication against the Red Cross of Constantiue and Rome , apparently to the advantage of the latter . With a very little effort the union of interests

would be effected among the ruling bodies of the Templars , the Mark , and the Supreme Council , and if these had the wit to let in the Red Cross , then there would be all the elements for a Grand Council of Rites , all ready for the presidency of

the M . W . G . M . when he is authorized to accept it . Meanwhile , some very edifying circumstances take place . Many authorities are fully satisfied that the Mai'k Grand Lodge is illegitimate and the Mark Degree a spurious degree in England . We

know a district where Scotch Royal Arch warranbs are spreading because they are more freely granted than English ; the English Masons become members of the Scotch chapters , and there legi-

Toleration In Masonic Administration.

timately take the Mark Degree . The same with Irish chapters . When these English Masons come to England they will have to be persuaded thafc the Mark Degree is spurious , and that their Mark is a badge of disgrace . In these times we must see how Masonry moves and adopt a timely reform .

"Le Monde Maconique" And The " Freemasons' Magazine."

"LE MONDE MACONIQUE" AND THE " FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE . "

We are indebted to our Parisian contemporary Le Monde Magonique for many complimentary notices of the MAGAZINE , and we beg to thank our esteemed editorial confrere , Bro . Favre , for the invariable courtesy with which he treats articles

referring to the Craft in France which appear in our columns . The principal contributor to Le Monde Maqonique , is Bro . Auguste Beaumont , a talented frere , who has recently been frequently introduced to our readers . In Le Monde Magonique

for August , Bro . Beaumont writing under the head of Noitvelles Strangers , thus refers to an article which we lately published . Our much esteemed correspondent of the FREEMASONS ' MAGAZINE , Bro . Horner , has published an article under this title : " The Gridiron in France . "

After explaining the meaning of this word , Gridiron , as symbolising the torture , more or less ingenious , which the candidates in France , during the initiation , yet undergo , the author relates that at which he assisted at the Lodge Renaissance , in February last . He criticises the physical trials , and commends several of the forms of the French

Rite as he as seen them practised by Bro . Massol . " Whilst our brethren of France , " says he , " may learn of us to conduct the ceremonies of the initiation with solemnity , the English Masons , on their side , should not be ashamed to recognise the points upon which the superiority of the French is manifested . " "As soon as the

initiation is finished , again says , Bro . Horner , " the lodge takes the aspect of a parliamentary assembly , and the discussion is engaged in with much eloquence as vivacity . After having listened to several speakers we withdrew , perfecbly convinced that this part of Masonic work is performed better in France than in England . "

On another page Bro . Beaumont again refers to us as follows : " The FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE , a weekly Masonic review , quarto , published in London , from which we make frequent extracts , announces that after

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TOLERATION IN MASONIC ADMINISTRATION. Article 1
"LE MONDE MACONIQUE" AND THE " FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE." Article 2
MASONIC DISCIPLINE. Article 3
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 4
ADDRESS, Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
INELIGIBILITY OF CANDIDATES FOR FREEMASONRY. Article 11
Untitled Article 13
MASONIC MEMS Article 13
GRAND LODGE. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
IRELAND. Article 15
CANADA. Article 15
MALTA. Article 15
INDIA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
HIGH KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 17
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 17
THE WALLACE. MONUMENT. Article 18
Poetry. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 11TH SEPTEMBER, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Toleration In Masonic Administration.

work this rite as well as the French rite , and the warrant is granted in due course . The result has vindicated the policy , for of the old Mizraim lodges most have gone . We believe only one is now working the rite , and new lodges that ask for this

ribe soon get rid of it . As to the Ancient and Accepted Rite , the new policy is , we think , now showing results . There is no longer a temptation for Masons under the Grand Orient to go to the Supreme Council to

work what is preferred for its ceremonial , while pacific relationshave been opened with the Supreme Council , which must ultimately bring about a fusion .

It appears well deserving of consideration how far this policy of toleration in Masonic administration is advisable here . In Ireland the matter is settled , and so we may say it is in Scotland , and consequently in all our colonies where Ireland

and Scotland maintain Provincial Grand Masters . In England , as we know , Grand Lodge and Grand Chapter have played fast and loose with the Mark , while they will not allow any meetings under the Templars , the Supreme Council , or the Red Cross

to be held even under the roof of Grand Lodge to the loss of rent , and consequently Grand Officers , members of Grand Lodge , and other Masons go next door to the Masonic property of the tavern , and there hold meetings and banquets . From

time to time the Mark sets up in Bedford-row or the Supreme Council in Soho-square . The Templars trust to excommunicate conclaves older than their own constitution , the Supreme Council

the same , and the latter body has launched the minor excommunication against the Red Cross of Constantiue and Rome , apparently to the advantage of the latter . With a very little effort the union of interests

would be effected among the ruling bodies of the Templars , the Mark , and the Supreme Council , and if these had the wit to let in the Red Cross , then there would be all the elements for a Grand Council of Rites , all ready for the presidency of

the M . W . G . M . when he is authorized to accept it . Meanwhile , some very edifying circumstances take place . Many authorities are fully satisfied that the Mai'k Grand Lodge is illegitimate and the Mark Degree a spurious degree in England . We

know a district where Scotch Royal Arch warranbs are spreading because they are more freely granted than English ; the English Masons become members of the Scotch chapters , and there legi-

Toleration In Masonic Administration.

timately take the Mark Degree . The same with Irish chapters . When these English Masons come to England they will have to be persuaded thafc the Mark Degree is spurious , and that their Mark is a badge of disgrace . In these times we must see how Masonry moves and adopt a timely reform .

"Le Monde Maconique" And The " Freemasons' Magazine."

"LE MONDE MACONIQUE" AND THE " FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE . "

We are indebted to our Parisian contemporary Le Monde Magonique for many complimentary notices of the MAGAZINE , and we beg to thank our esteemed editorial confrere , Bro . Favre , for the invariable courtesy with which he treats articles

referring to the Craft in France which appear in our columns . The principal contributor to Le Monde Maqonique , is Bro . Auguste Beaumont , a talented frere , who has recently been frequently introduced to our readers . In Le Monde Magonique

for August , Bro . Beaumont writing under the head of Noitvelles Strangers , thus refers to an article which we lately published . Our much esteemed correspondent of the FREEMASONS ' MAGAZINE , Bro . Horner , has published an article under this title : " The Gridiron in France . "

After explaining the meaning of this word , Gridiron , as symbolising the torture , more or less ingenious , which the candidates in France , during the initiation , yet undergo , the author relates that at which he assisted at the Lodge Renaissance , in February last . He criticises the physical trials , and commends several of the forms of the French

Rite as he as seen them practised by Bro . Massol . " Whilst our brethren of France , " says he , " may learn of us to conduct the ceremonies of the initiation with solemnity , the English Masons , on their side , should not be ashamed to recognise the points upon which the superiority of the French is manifested . " "As soon as the

initiation is finished , again says , Bro . Horner , " the lodge takes the aspect of a parliamentary assembly , and the discussion is engaged in with much eloquence as vivacity . After having listened to several speakers we withdrew , perfecbly convinced that this part of Masonic work is performed better in France than in England . "

On another page Bro . Beaumont again refers to us as follows : " The FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE , a weekly Masonic review , quarto , published in London , from which we make frequent extracts , announces that after

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