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Masonic Notes And Queries.

CHAPTEES OF EOSE CEOIX HELD UNDEE AND EECOGNISED BV THE SUPREME GEAND COUNCIL OE THE 33 ° ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED KITE OE ENGLAND AND WALES . To meet the wishes of several correspondents who have asked to be suppliedthrough the MAGAZINE

, , with a list of the chapters of the 1 S recognised by the S . G . C . 33 ° , we append a list up to date of those chapters that are recognised , commencing with the chapters in London : — London —Invicta ( Woolwich ) . Metropolitan—Mount Calvary and Observance .

The following are the chapters in the provinces and British colonies , & c .: — 1 . Alder-shot—Royal Military . 2 . Axmmster— -Coryton . 3 . Bath—St . Peter * and St . Paul . 4 i , Birmingham—Vernon .

5 . Devonport—St . Aubyn . 6 . Gibraltar—Europa . 7 . Liverpool—Liverpool . 8 . Manchester—Palatine . 9 . Melbourne—Metropolitan . 10 . Newcastle-on-Tyne—Royal Kent .

11 . Nottingham—Nottingham . 12 . Portsmouth—Royal Naval . 13 . Hyde , Isle of Wight—Vectis . 14 . Sheffield-Talbot . 15 . Taunton—Alfred . 1 G . Warwick—Shakspeare . 17 . Weymouth—All Soul's . IS . Worcester—St . Dunstan ' s .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The " Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed lit / Correspondents . XO THE EDITOR OS" THK PRHB 31 ASOX 3 ' jIAGAZIXl ! . VXD MASOXIC MniltOIE . DEAR SIE AND BEOTHEE , —I have just heard that the subject of Mark Masonry has been brought before the Grand Lodge , and I have a few words to say on the subjectwhichI trustmay be honoured with a

, , , place in your journal . At jiresent , in Scotland , Ireland , and America the Mark Degree is acknowledged as part of Masoniy , aud no doubt it is , aud closety connected with the second degree ; indeed , it seems a link between that and the third degreeas the R . A . is part of the third

, degree , and so much is Mark Masonry thought of iu those countries , that you are unable to be exalted iu the R . A . until you are "Marked . " This puts English Masonry very often in a particularly disagreeable position . There are many Mark Masters in England as well

as Mark lodges . To get this degree , a Mason must go out of the jurisdiction of England . This should not be . Englishmen feeling this , aud that their own Grand Lodge ignores the degree , have established a Grand Lodge of Mark Masters for England , it being decidedly preferable to being forced to go to

Scotland or anywhere else . To show how much this Grand Lodge is appreciated by English Masons , we have already a hundred or more lodges , and many daily joining ; indeed , the Mark Masters now of England are a very considerable body . Besides these we have several Provincial Lodges with Masons of high standing as rulers . Our

Correspondence.

Grand Master is Provincial Grand Master for Kent . The Provincial Grand Master for Devon is also Provincial Grand Master for the Mark in that county . The Provincial Grand Mark Master for Bombay is Provincial Grand Superintendent of Arch Masons . Then the Provincial Grand Master of Mark for Madras and Burmah is P . G . S . W . of England . In

short , the degree has taken a great hold on Masons in England , and , sooner or later , must be acknowledged . It is all well for Scotland to object to the degree being under England . It is like other degrees . They wish to keep to themselves ; but that day is gone by , and Englishmen wish these things in their own

control , aud the Grand Lodge is now making a great mistake iu not supporting the Masons of England . The Masons of' Eugland should come forward to acknowledge the degree which is acknowledged by every other Grand Lodge as partfof Masonry ( and no one who has the degree can doubt it ) , and if they

do that it must be under Eugland—either under the Grand Lodge or the Grand Lodge of Mark Masters just established ; but let us be free from other countries . Why should Englishmen be forced to go to Scotland or anywhere else . The Grand Lodge refuses to acknowledge more than three degrees . It

acknowledges Eoyal Arch , which it calls part of the third degree , and so is the Mark part of the second degree . In India , to prevent English Masons going to Scotch lodges , the Grand Lodge have coolly broken through a landmarkand declared that a brother can

, be allowed to take the different degrees after eight clays instead of a month , and the Royal Arch after four weeks instead of twelve months , and yet it now would drive our Masons to Scotland for the Mark

Degree . The degree is making rapid strides in England , the British Isles , and India , and all that the Grand Lodges may do cannot stop its onward progress . The wisest thing would be for the Grand Lodge of England to acknowledge it with a good grace , and to take the degree under its own guidance . No doubt

the Grand Lodge of Mark Masters would gladly give in allegiance ; but let us be under the rulers of our own family . I am , dear Sir and Brother , Tours truly and fraternally . A . J . G . Mark Master of both E . and S . C

Lord Palmerston.

LORD PALMERSTON .

10 Tnll EDITOR OF THE EREEMEASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRBOB . DEAB SIE AND BEOTHEE , —I ain requested by the brethren present at a meeting of the New Concord Lodge of Instruction , held at Bro . Gabb's , Rosemary Branch Tavern , Hoxton , on the ISth ult ., to express their united regret and

deep sympathy at the death of our much-beloved Brother Henry John Temple , Viscount Palmerston , who departed this life October ISth , 1865 , his noble and distinguished character having endeared him to every class of society , and more especially to the Craft . The lodge was closed with that solemnity due to the occasion . I am , dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , H . H . SPEATT , Hon . Sec .

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CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
LORD PALMERSTON. Article 10
THE PEN-AND-INK SKETCHES OF ONE FANG. Article 11
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
ROYAL ARCH. Article 13
MARK MASONRY. Article 13
IRELAND. Article 13
INDIA. Article 13
THE REFORM LEAGUE. Article 16
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 16
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 16
LITERARY EXTRACTS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

CHAPTEES OF EOSE CEOIX HELD UNDEE AND EECOGNISED BV THE SUPREME GEAND COUNCIL OE THE 33 ° ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED KITE OE ENGLAND AND WALES . To meet the wishes of several correspondents who have asked to be suppliedthrough the MAGAZINE

, , with a list of the chapters of the 1 S recognised by the S . G . C . 33 ° , we append a list up to date of those chapters that are recognised , commencing with the chapters in London : — London —Invicta ( Woolwich ) . Metropolitan—Mount Calvary and Observance .

The following are the chapters in the provinces and British colonies , & c .: — 1 . Alder-shot—Royal Military . 2 . Axmmster— -Coryton . 3 . Bath—St . Peter * and St . Paul . 4 i , Birmingham—Vernon .

5 . Devonport—St . Aubyn . 6 . Gibraltar—Europa . 7 . Liverpool—Liverpool . 8 . Manchester—Palatine . 9 . Melbourne—Metropolitan . 10 . Newcastle-on-Tyne—Royal Kent .

11 . Nottingham—Nottingham . 12 . Portsmouth—Royal Naval . 13 . Hyde , Isle of Wight—Vectis . 14 . Sheffield-Talbot . 15 . Taunton—Alfred . 1 G . Warwick—Shakspeare . 17 . Weymouth—All Soul's . IS . Worcester—St . Dunstan ' s .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The " Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed lit / Correspondents . XO THE EDITOR OS" THK PRHB 31 ASOX 3 ' jIAGAZIXl ! . VXD MASOXIC MniltOIE . DEAR SIE AND BEOTHEE , —I have just heard that the subject of Mark Masonry has been brought before the Grand Lodge , and I have a few words to say on the subjectwhichI trustmay be honoured with a

, , , place in your journal . At jiresent , in Scotland , Ireland , and America the Mark Degree is acknowledged as part of Masoniy , aud no doubt it is , aud closety connected with the second degree ; indeed , it seems a link between that and the third degreeas the R . A . is part of the third

, degree , and so much is Mark Masonry thought of iu those countries , that you are unable to be exalted iu the R . A . until you are "Marked . " This puts English Masonry very often in a particularly disagreeable position . There are many Mark Masters in England as well

as Mark lodges . To get this degree , a Mason must go out of the jurisdiction of England . This should not be . Englishmen feeling this , aud that their own Grand Lodge ignores the degree , have established a Grand Lodge of Mark Masters for England , it being decidedly preferable to being forced to go to

Scotland or anywhere else . To show how much this Grand Lodge is appreciated by English Masons , we have already a hundred or more lodges , and many daily joining ; indeed , the Mark Masters now of England are a very considerable body . Besides these we have several Provincial Lodges with Masons of high standing as rulers . Our

Correspondence.

Grand Master is Provincial Grand Master for Kent . The Provincial Grand Master for Devon is also Provincial Grand Master for the Mark in that county . The Provincial Grand Mark Master for Bombay is Provincial Grand Superintendent of Arch Masons . Then the Provincial Grand Master of Mark for Madras and Burmah is P . G . S . W . of England . In

short , the degree has taken a great hold on Masons in England , and , sooner or later , must be acknowledged . It is all well for Scotland to object to the degree being under England . It is like other degrees . They wish to keep to themselves ; but that day is gone by , and Englishmen wish these things in their own

control , aud the Grand Lodge is now making a great mistake iu not supporting the Masons of England . The Masons of' Eugland should come forward to acknowledge the degree which is acknowledged by every other Grand Lodge as partfof Masonry ( and no one who has the degree can doubt it ) , and if they

do that it must be under Eugland—either under the Grand Lodge or the Grand Lodge of Mark Masters just established ; but let us be free from other countries . Why should Englishmen be forced to go to Scotland or anywhere else . The Grand Lodge refuses to acknowledge more than three degrees . It

acknowledges Eoyal Arch , which it calls part of the third degree , and so is the Mark part of the second degree . In India , to prevent English Masons going to Scotch lodges , the Grand Lodge have coolly broken through a landmarkand declared that a brother can

, be allowed to take the different degrees after eight clays instead of a month , and the Royal Arch after four weeks instead of twelve months , and yet it now would drive our Masons to Scotland for the Mark

Degree . The degree is making rapid strides in England , the British Isles , and India , and all that the Grand Lodges may do cannot stop its onward progress . The wisest thing would be for the Grand Lodge of England to acknowledge it with a good grace , and to take the degree under its own guidance . No doubt

the Grand Lodge of Mark Masters would gladly give in allegiance ; but let us be under the rulers of our own family . I am , dear Sir and Brother , Tours truly and fraternally . A . J . G . Mark Master of both E . and S . C

Lord Palmerston.

LORD PALMERSTON .

10 Tnll EDITOR OF THE EREEMEASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRBOB . DEAB SIE AND BEOTHEE , —I ain requested by the brethren present at a meeting of the New Concord Lodge of Instruction , held at Bro . Gabb's , Rosemary Branch Tavern , Hoxton , on the ISth ult ., to express their united regret and

deep sympathy at the death of our much-beloved Brother Henry John Temple , Viscount Palmerston , who departed this life October ISth , 1865 , his noble and distinguished character having endeared him to every class of society , and more especially to the Craft . The lodge was closed with that solemnity due to the occasion . I am , dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , H . H . SPEATT , Hon . Sec .

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