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saying that " Scot and Scotchmen are synonymous ; the former may he more in favour ivith writers than tlie latter , but both are , we think , proper to be used , and that in the same sense objected to by W . P . B . " At page 406 our fastidious brother resumes the subject , and makes a somewhat ungraceful retreat

from his position as condemning the use of Scotch in any other capacity than that of a verb . While now admitting that the word " may be used correctly enough in such p hrases as ' guid braid Scotch' —that " when one is writing 'braid Scotch' he can uso it as much as lie pleases "—he inconsistently , we think , objects to its appearance in an " auld Scotch Sang , "—

The Scotch blood leaps in a my vei ns . and suggests as an improvement the substitution of " Scots ' , " a noun in tbe possessive case , for the unfortunate adjective , Scotch . We prefer the song as the author wrote it , to any tinkered version such as that suggested by W . P . B .

That the Ploughman Bard , ancl other poets of lesser note , should have erred hy their use of the word Scotch is not to be wondered at , when the works of Sir Walter Scott are , according to W . P . B . ' s idea , marred by similar vulgarisms . "Waverley " abounds with the word , the use of which our brither

Scot considers " to be bad ; " and in more than one page of the same work will be found the dissyllable , the use of which he considers " far worse . " In the novel in question the reader is brought in contact with " Scotch mists , " " Scotch magistrates , " " Scotch ideas" " Broad Scotch" etc . ; the Chief of

Glenna-, , quoieh is put down as being " a Frenchified Scotchman ; " "the Scotch" are said to be "liberal in computing their land and liquors ; " and we are informed that " the Scottish pint corresponds to two English quarts . " The Messrs . Chambers do not seem to coincide with W . P-B . in his condemnation of the use

of the word Scotch . In their "Information for the People , " one will meet with such phrases as— " a body of Scotch , 7 , 000 strong , were nearly cut off ; " "the Scotch were encouraged to persevere by the court of France ; " " he attempted , iu 1637 , to introduce a new Book of Common Prayer into the Scotch

churches ; " "the Scotch terrier has short wiry hair ; " " there are English , Irish , and Scotch country dances , and Scotch reels . " In " Hogg ' s Instructor , " the author of "Lays of the Scottish Cavaliers " is spoken of as a " Scotchman . " Waddell , the accomplished editor of " Life and Works of Robert Burns "

, does not ignore " Scotch " nor " Scotchmen , " neither does the learned editor of "Macmillan ' s Magazine . ' ' Cosmo Innes , too , in his Preface to the "Acts of the Scottish Parliaments , " makes free use of the adjective Scotch— " Scotch charters . . . Scotch Parliament . .. . Scotch names , " etc . Passin < rto

the newspaper press , the reports of tbo proceedings in both Houses of Parliament testify to the frequent uso by our senators of the words to which W . P . B displays such an antipathy . Gladstone , in his nomination speech the other day , said he thought " that the Scotch were pretty good judges of Protestantism ;" and at the anniversary festival of the " Scottish

Hospital , " held at Loudon on St . Andrew ' s Day , the Marquis of Bute was vulgar enough to call his fellowcountrymen " Scotchmen . " Lest , however , W . P . B . should decline to regard as authorities on the point at issue the names we have

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mentioned , we beg to refer him to Walker ' s Dietiouary of the English Language as an undoubted authority for correctness of expression . In his "Rules to be observed by the natives of Scotland , " etc ., the compiler invariably uses the nouns " Scotch " and " Scotchman . " And from the same source we

learn that " Scotch" means "belonging to S cotland . " In Ash ' s Dictionary we have— " Scot , a native of Scotland ; " " S cotchman , a native of Scotland ; " "S cotchmen ( s . plu . of Scotchman ) , more than one Scotchman ; " Scottish ( adj . from Scot ) , belonging to the Scots , belonging to Scotland . " We beg also to

refer W . P . B . to the English Grammar , where lie will . find " Scotch" classed among the proper adjectives : preceded by the article the , the word ranks as a noun . —D . MUBEAT LTOZS . DE 1 UVATI 05 OE EBEEMASOS . I hope next week to send a further communication to Masonic Notes and Queries on this subject . —A MASOXTC STUDEZST .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed by Con'txpondeiitt ., PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND .

TO TIIK EDITOR 01 'TIIE EIlEEilASOXS il . VGAZItfE AXD 3 TASO . VIC 31110101 . ' . Dear Sir and Brother , —Will you kindly allow me to acknowledge through your columns the following subscriptions received by me since July 1 st from Masonic lodges ? For the information of brethren interested in the workI may mention that the latest letters bring in

, news that the wall of Ohel , first discovered by Bro . Lieut . Warren last year , the existence of which had been previously unsuspected , has been traced to a considerable extent along rhe slope of the hill . The wall in one part stood on rock scarped to the depth of 80 feet , and in another part must have beensays Bro .

, Lieut . Warren , at least 90 or 100 feet high . We wait for a full account of this important discovery . Plans of tha work are in the office of tho Fund , ready for any subscribers or friends who may wish to have them .

Tours fraternally , W- BESAJTT , S . ECBETABV TO THfi Ft'l-vD . Clmrehill , -17 S , £ 3 3 s . ; Westminster and Keys '; ' )!! . ' , £ 5 : Grand Lodge Sin-rev , £ 5 us . ; fit . T'lai'tiu ' s , 510 , £ ' ¦ _) ¦ \ J \_ in _\ , York , £ •_ . " 2 s . ; Yin-borough , Jersey , £ 2 2 s . ; Eliot , 1 , 161 ., £ 2- ( Is . Gd . ; Ancient Union , 203 , £ 5 ; ' itoyal Union , 2 f (> , £ 3 3 s . ;

Xonli WalsUaui , li ) 2 , £ 1 Is . ; St . John ' s , 32 S , £ 1 Is . ; 1 'euce . 322 , £ 1 Is . ; Neptune , 22 , £ 5 5 s . ; Gibraltar , 153 , £ 2 2 . ; . ; Semper Fidelis 521 ) , £ 1 Is . ; Prov . tr . L . Warwickshire , £ 5 . 5 s . ; Faithful , So , £ 1 l . s . ; lioyal Brunswick , Sheffield , £ 5 5 s . ; Worcester , 2 S 0 , £ 2 2 s . ; St . George ' s , 35 , Liverpool , £ 5 5 s .

As our lii ' o is short , so it is very miserable , and so it is well it is short . God , in pity to man , lest his nature should be an in . tolerable load , Iratti reduced ouv state of misery to an nbbvevv-iuire for which we should iu reason be glad—not merely thankful but glad—to bo out of a p lace of sorrows and tears , of so great evils and of such constant calamity ; and when God sends His angel with a scroll of death let ns look ou it as an act of mercy . For a , man ut least , gets this by death , that his calamities are not immortal . — -i / b / j / -Dying ,

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saying that " Scot and Scotchmen are synonymous ; the former may he more in favour ivith writers than tlie latter , but both are , we think , proper to be used , and that in the same sense objected to by W . P . B . " At page 406 our fastidious brother resumes the subject , and makes a somewhat ungraceful retreat

from his position as condemning the use of Scotch in any other capacity than that of a verb . While now admitting that the word " may be used correctly enough in such p hrases as ' guid braid Scotch' —that " when one is writing 'braid Scotch' he can uso it as much as lie pleases "—he inconsistently , we think , objects to its appearance in an " auld Scotch Sang , "—

The Scotch blood leaps in a my vei ns . and suggests as an improvement the substitution of " Scots ' , " a noun in tbe possessive case , for the unfortunate adjective , Scotch . We prefer the song as the author wrote it , to any tinkered version such as that suggested by W . P . B .

That the Ploughman Bard , ancl other poets of lesser note , should have erred hy their use of the word Scotch is not to be wondered at , when the works of Sir Walter Scott are , according to W . P . B . ' s idea , marred by similar vulgarisms . "Waverley " abounds with the word , the use of which our brither

Scot considers " to be bad ; " and in more than one page of the same work will be found the dissyllable , the use of which he considers " far worse . " In the novel in question the reader is brought in contact with " Scotch mists , " " Scotch magistrates , " " Scotch ideas" " Broad Scotch" etc . ; the Chief of

Glenna-, , quoieh is put down as being " a Frenchified Scotchman ; " "the Scotch" are said to be "liberal in computing their land and liquors ; " and we are informed that " the Scottish pint corresponds to two English quarts . " The Messrs . Chambers do not seem to coincide with W . P-B . in his condemnation of the use

of the word Scotch . In their "Information for the People , " one will meet with such phrases as— " a body of Scotch , 7 , 000 strong , were nearly cut off ; " "the Scotch were encouraged to persevere by the court of France ; " " he attempted , iu 1637 , to introduce a new Book of Common Prayer into the Scotch

churches ; " "the Scotch terrier has short wiry hair ; " " there are English , Irish , and Scotch country dances , and Scotch reels . " In " Hogg ' s Instructor , " the author of "Lays of the Scottish Cavaliers " is spoken of as a " Scotchman . " Waddell , the accomplished editor of " Life and Works of Robert Burns "

, does not ignore " Scotch " nor " Scotchmen , " neither does the learned editor of "Macmillan ' s Magazine . ' ' Cosmo Innes , too , in his Preface to the "Acts of the Scottish Parliaments , " makes free use of the adjective Scotch— " Scotch charters . . . Scotch Parliament . .. . Scotch names , " etc . Passin < rto

the newspaper press , the reports of tbo proceedings in both Houses of Parliament testify to the frequent uso by our senators of the words to which W . P . B displays such an antipathy . Gladstone , in his nomination speech the other day , said he thought " that the Scotch were pretty good judges of Protestantism ;" and at the anniversary festival of the " Scottish

Hospital , " held at Loudon on St . Andrew ' s Day , the Marquis of Bute was vulgar enough to call his fellowcountrymen " Scotchmen . " Lest , however , W . P . B . should decline to regard as authorities on the point at issue the names we have

Masonic Notes And Queries.

mentioned , we beg to refer him to Walker ' s Dietiouary of the English Language as an undoubted authority for correctness of expression . In his "Rules to be observed by the natives of Scotland , " etc ., the compiler invariably uses the nouns " Scotch " and " Scotchman . " And from the same source we

learn that " Scotch" means "belonging to S cotland . " In Ash ' s Dictionary we have— " Scot , a native of Scotland ; " " S cotchman , a native of Scotland ; " "S cotchmen ( s . plu . of Scotchman ) , more than one Scotchman ; " Scottish ( adj . from Scot ) , belonging to the Scots , belonging to Scotland . " We beg also to

refer W . P . B . to the English Grammar , where lie will . find " Scotch" classed among the proper adjectives : preceded by the article the , the word ranks as a noun . —D . MUBEAT LTOZS . DE 1 UVATI 05 OE EBEEMASOS . I hope next week to send a further communication to Masonic Notes and Queries on this subject . —A MASOXTC STUDEZST .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed by Con'txpondeiitt ., PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND .

TO TIIK EDITOR 01 'TIIE EIlEEilASOXS il . VGAZItfE AXD 3 TASO . VIC 31110101 . ' . Dear Sir and Brother , —Will you kindly allow me to acknowledge through your columns the following subscriptions received by me since July 1 st from Masonic lodges ? For the information of brethren interested in the workI may mention that the latest letters bring in

, news that the wall of Ohel , first discovered by Bro . Lieut . Warren last year , the existence of which had been previously unsuspected , has been traced to a considerable extent along rhe slope of the hill . The wall in one part stood on rock scarped to the depth of 80 feet , and in another part must have beensays Bro .

, Lieut . Warren , at least 90 or 100 feet high . We wait for a full account of this important discovery . Plans of tha work are in the office of tho Fund , ready for any subscribers or friends who may wish to have them .

Tours fraternally , W- BESAJTT , S . ECBETABV TO THfi Ft'l-vD . Clmrehill , -17 S , £ 3 3 s . ; Westminster and Keys '; ' )!! . ' , £ 5 : Grand Lodge Sin-rev , £ 5 us . ; fit . T'lai'tiu ' s , 510 , £ ' ¦ _) ¦ \ J \_ in _\ , York , £ •_ . " 2 s . ; Yin-borough , Jersey , £ 2 2 s . ; Eliot , 1 , 161 ., £ 2- ( Is . Gd . ; Ancient Union , 203 , £ 5 ; ' itoyal Union , 2 f (> , £ 3 3 s . ;

Xonli WalsUaui , li ) 2 , £ 1 Is . ; St . John ' s , 32 S , £ 1 Is . ; 1 'euce . 322 , £ 1 Is . ; Neptune , 22 , £ 5 5 s . ; Gibraltar , 153 , £ 2 2 . ; . ; Semper Fidelis 521 ) , £ 1 Is . ; Prov . tr . L . Warwickshire , £ 5 . 5 s . ; Faithful , So , £ 1 l . s . ; lioyal Brunswick , Sheffield , £ 5 5 s . ; Worcester , 2 S 0 , £ 2 2 s . ; St . George ' s , 35 , Liverpool , £ 5 5 s .

As our lii ' o is short , so it is very miserable , and so it is well it is short . God , in pity to man , lest his nature should be an in . tolerable load , Iratti reduced ouv state of misery to an nbbvevv-iuire for which we should iu reason be glad—not merely thankful but glad—to bo out of a p lace of sorrows and tears , of so great evils and of such constant calamity ; and when God sends His angel with a scroll of death let ns look ou it as an act of mercy . For a , man ut least , gets this by death , that his calamities are not immortal . — -i / b / j / -Dying ,

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