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Masonic Jottings.—No. 31.

MASONIC JOTTINGS . —No . 31 .

BY A PAST PROVINCIAL GEAND MASTER . THE GERMAN THEORISTS RIGHT AND WRONG . A learned correspondent thinks that the German Theorists , in their search for the rise of Freemasonry , have clone right in ascending the stream

of time above the year 1717 ; but that they have done wrong in not ascending it above the era of the Antient Company of Stonecutters and the Building Corporations connected with it .

MASONRY AMONGST THE JEAVS . Many think , and not without reason , that there was Masonry amongst the Jews Avhen the build , in g of the first Temple began . Learned men h ave , however , for many years known , that the Masonry could not be true Freemasonry . THE OLD ENGLISH LODGE—THE OLD SCOTCH

LODGE . The Old English Lodge Avith its Operative Masonry and its Speculative Masonry , and the Old Scotch Lodge Avith its Operative Masonry only , resemble two of our great schools .

History , Geography , Mathematics and Classics being taught in the one , and History , Geography and Mathematics , Avithout Classics , in the other .

THE ANTIENT LODGE . The Architect , with the numerous sciences Avhich he practised or studied ; tho Priest Avith religion sometimes pure , sometimes impure ; the Workmen Avith their necessary regulations

taken from the code of Natural Ethicssuch Avas the antient lodge , which on its institution at once produced the undeveloped germ of Speculative Masonry .

SACRED RITES . What Antient Nations called Sacred Bites and Mysteries , we call Speculative Masonry . —Old MS .

MASONIC ALLEGORIES . My acquaintance Avith the history of allegory is very small indeed , and it would he unseemingly presumptive were I to dispute a learned brother ' s assertion that Masonic allegories are of all

allegories the most ancient . Perhaps , however , my brother will be so obliging as to point out a Masonic allegory more ancient than the Biblical allegory , the comparison of Israel to a vine , 80 th Psalm . ( To be continued . }

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

ANOTHER MASONIO KING-. Bro . King Kamehameha IV ., of the Sandwich Islands , patron of Masonry there . Little could Capt . Cook have dreamed that the light of Masonry was to shine in the regions of his discovery . There is a Grand Lodge . The King is W . M . of a Trench lodge . —E . N .

[ Our brother the Bishop of Honolulu , who was initiated , some years since , in the Britannic Lodge , has returned to England . ] EEEEJIASONEY AND QUEEN ELIZABETH ( page 70 ) . As to this , first prove that a Grand Lodge existed 1566 , and thereafter prove that Queen Elizabeth did

send " an armed force to break it up . " There were operative lodges in 1429 , and of course among the Masons , as well as among other trades , there were Masters , Wardens , and Apprentices , but these were not speculative Masons . Even now you may still get Masters , Foremen , Journeymen , and Apprentices in any trade . —W . P . B .

TEE ST . CIAIE CHABTEES . In a recent communication on the antiquity of Freemasonry , Bro . W . P . Buehan quotes 1600 and 1 G 2 S as the dates of the two documents known as the St . Clair Charters . This has been met by a rather pointed contradiction , the brother making it asserting

of the first of these charters that "there is sufficient evidence that it belongs to the early part of the 17 th . century , and to the reign of James VI ., after his accession to the English throne . I have examined the originals of the St . Clair Charters -. both are without date . The first was issued with the consent of

, and is signed hy , William Sehaw , Master of Work , who died in April , 1602 . The crowns of England were not united till the accession of James the Sixth of Scotland as James the First of England , March 24 , 1603 ; consequently the date of the charter in question must have been before that event—probably in

1 G 00-1 . Though the copy of the second charter , which is preserved in the Advocates' Library , is dated 1 G 30 , there is good ground for believing that the deed was executed tAvo years prior to that date . In a communication on this subject which , in 1866 , I made to the Grand Lodge of Scotland , I gave the data

upon which I concluded that there was a strong probability that the second charter was signed betAveen 16 th October , 1627 , and 13 th October , 1628 . From evidence discovered in the course of my present examination of the records of the Lodge of Edinburgh , Mary ' s Cbapcl , the question of date is still farther narrowed . —I ) . M . L .

SOME OE THE MASONS AA'HOM AN OCTOOENAEIAN EEOTHEE HAS KNOAVN . An octogenarian brother writes that some of the worthiest Masons whom he has knoAvn have been incapable of penning correctly tAvo consecutive sentences , andat the same timehave been singularlunaware

, , y of their deficiency . One in particular would readily have undertaken to frame the Queen ' s Speech on the opening of Parliament , or to compose an elaborate history of the Craft . —A PAST PEOVINCIAE GEAND MASTED .

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MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 31. Article 8
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 10
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IRELAND. Article 15
NEW BRUNSWICK. Article 16
INDIA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
REVIEWS Article 18
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 18
BENGAL MASONIC ASSOCIATION FOR EDUCATING CHILDREN OF INDIGENT FREEMASONS. Article 18
LANGUAGE OF MASONRY. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &C., FOR WEEK ENDING 13TH, AUGUST 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Jottings.—No. 31.

MASONIC JOTTINGS . —No . 31 .

BY A PAST PROVINCIAL GEAND MASTER . THE GERMAN THEORISTS RIGHT AND WRONG . A learned correspondent thinks that the German Theorists , in their search for the rise of Freemasonry , have clone right in ascending the stream

of time above the year 1717 ; but that they have done wrong in not ascending it above the era of the Antient Company of Stonecutters and the Building Corporations connected with it .

MASONRY AMONGST THE JEAVS . Many think , and not without reason , that there was Masonry amongst the Jews Avhen the build , in g of the first Temple began . Learned men h ave , however , for many years known , that the Masonry could not be true Freemasonry . THE OLD ENGLISH LODGE—THE OLD SCOTCH

LODGE . The Old English Lodge Avith its Operative Masonry and its Speculative Masonry , and the Old Scotch Lodge Avith its Operative Masonry only , resemble two of our great schools .

History , Geography , Mathematics and Classics being taught in the one , and History , Geography and Mathematics , Avithout Classics , in the other .

THE ANTIENT LODGE . The Architect , with the numerous sciences Avhich he practised or studied ; tho Priest Avith religion sometimes pure , sometimes impure ; the Workmen Avith their necessary regulations

taken from the code of Natural Ethicssuch Avas the antient lodge , which on its institution at once produced the undeveloped germ of Speculative Masonry .

SACRED RITES . What Antient Nations called Sacred Bites and Mysteries , we call Speculative Masonry . —Old MS .

MASONIC ALLEGORIES . My acquaintance Avith the history of allegory is very small indeed , and it would he unseemingly presumptive were I to dispute a learned brother ' s assertion that Masonic allegories are of all

allegories the most ancient . Perhaps , however , my brother will be so obliging as to point out a Masonic allegory more ancient than the Biblical allegory , the comparison of Israel to a vine , 80 th Psalm . ( To be continued . }

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

ANOTHER MASONIO KING-. Bro . King Kamehameha IV ., of the Sandwich Islands , patron of Masonry there . Little could Capt . Cook have dreamed that the light of Masonry was to shine in the regions of his discovery . There is a Grand Lodge . The King is W . M . of a Trench lodge . —E . N .

[ Our brother the Bishop of Honolulu , who was initiated , some years since , in the Britannic Lodge , has returned to England . ] EEEEJIASONEY AND QUEEN ELIZABETH ( page 70 ) . As to this , first prove that a Grand Lodge existed 1566 , and thereafter prove that Queen Elizabeth did

send " an armed force to break it up . " There were operative lodges in 1429 , and of course among the Masons , as well as among other trades , there were Masters , Wardens , and Apprentices , but these were not speculative Masons . Even now you may still get Masters , Foremen , Journeymen , and Apprentices in any trade . —W . P . B .

TEE ST . CIAIE CHABTEES . In a recent communication on the antiquity of Freemasonry , Bro . W . P . Buehan quotes 1600 and 1 G 2 S as the dates of the two documents known as the St . Clair Charters . This has been met by a rather pointed contradiction , the brother making it asserting

of the first of these charters that "there is sufficient evidence that it belongs to the early part of the 17 th . century , and to the reign of James VI ., after his accession to the English throne . I have examined the originals of the St . Clair Charters -. both are without date . The first was issued with the consent of

, and is signed hy , William Sehaw , Master of Work , who died in April , 1602 . The crowns of England were not united till the accession of James the Sixth of Scotland as James the First of England , March 24 , 1603 ; consequently the date of the charter in question must have been before that event—probably in

1 G 00-1 . Though the copy of the second charter , which is preserved in the Advocates' Library , is dated 1 G 30 , there is good ground for believing that the deed was executed tAvo years prior to that date . In a communication on this subject which , in 1866 , I made to the Grand Lodge of Scotland , I gave the data

upon which I concluded that there was a strong probability that the second charter was signed betAveen 16 th October , 1627 , and 13 th October , 1628 . From evidence discovered in the course of my present examination of the records of the Lodge of Edinburgh , Mary ' s Cbapcl , the question of date is still farther narrowed . —I ) . M . L .

SOME OE THE MASONS AA'HOM AN OCTOOENAEIAN EEOTHEE HAS KNOAVN . An octogenarian brother writes that some of the worthiest Masons whom he has knoAvn have been incapable of penning correctly tAvo consecutive sentences , andat the same timehave been singularlunaware

, , y of their deficiency . One in particular would readily have undertaken to frame the Queen ' s Speech on the opening of Parliament , or to compose an elaborate history of the Craft . —A PAST PEOVINCIAE GEAND MASTED .

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