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Masonic Notes And Queries.

REAL MASTERS VERSUS NONENTITIES . It would be interesting to know what proportion the real Masters bear to the nonentity fraternity . Who knows ? As the assumption of the insignia of a real Master by the nonentity is evidently a mistake ought not the distinguishing jewel of the latter to he a plain disc stamped with the letter " N ? "BEE VERSUS DRONE .

POPERY AND ROMAN CATHOLICS . A distinction must be drawn between Popery as an institution and many Roman Catholics as individuals ; for , while I consider that Popery has gradually grown up to be one of the most gigantic systems of imposition that ever existed , I yet believe

there are good men in , or nominally in , its ranks . They are in it , but they are not of it , they are like grains of gold in a lump of clay , which somehow cannot come out ; may we not , however , pray the Great Architect of the Universe that , as a little leaven leveneth the whole lump , so may these menby His

, blessing , he the instruments of its renovation ; may they soon cast down those great twin pillars , Bigotry and Ignorance , and in their stead set up those goodly columns Love and Truth . —PICTUS .

THE PRINCE OP WALES . It is satisfactory to know that the mind of " A ! New Member " is " much relieved , " though one is puzzled to know what caused the peculiar mental state which required "relief . " The idea of making H . R . H . a Past Grand Master was not my " proposition , " hut

apparently emanated from Lord Zetland himself . It does not matter much what precise title the Prince of Wales receives , but certainly that of " Grand Patron " is the most objectionable . Masonry wants brotherly help , not patronage . On the whole , we might adopt the Swedish plan with advantage , making the Prince Supreme Grand Master , and retaining Lord Zetland as G . M . —J . A . H .

LABOUR . AND REFRESHMENT . It is strange "Crux" does not know that this ancient practice can be seen in a London lodge . There is very sufficient reason for using the titles of officers at a banquet , because , whether the lodge he formally opened or notit is a distinct Masonic

cere-, mony , carried on according to practices which are landmarks in general Masonry and observed throughout the world . Consequently , in many countries such a celebration is considered as a Lodge of Festivity . It is a separation of part of a ceremony like a funeral .

The presence of strangers , or of the public , does not in all cases cause the titles of officers to he suppressed . The laying of a foundation stone , for instance , is one in point . The presentation of an address to the Sovereign is another . There is no reason generally why it should not be known that the

chief officer of a lodge of Ereemasons is the same as that of the chief officer of a city company of Masons . There is an independendent reason in the opening , that an intruder shall not know the technical form . of proceeding . —D . D . G . M .

MARQUIS OP SALISBURY . The Masonic paraphernalia of E . ¥ . Bro . the late Marquis of Salisbury were given by him to Bro . J . R . Dagg , of the Watford Lodge—546 .

MELANCTHON ON GERMANY AND SCOTLAND . " There is a letter of Melanethon , still extant , addressed to John Eidelis at Erancfort , 1556 , in which he introduces to him a Scotsman , named Linns or Lyne , as a man of learning and true piety , and in which , after reminding him that it is the will of God that we should show hospitality to such guestshe

, remarks , ' Eor my part , I think we Germans owe a special debt of gratitude to the Scottish nation ; because in former times we received from them both Christianity and letters , when the churches of Germany had been overrun and ruined by the Heneti and the Huns . '" *

INTERNATIONAL PELLOWSHIP . The article anent " The Grand Lodge of England and the Grand Masonic Body of Prance , " in the Freemasons'' Magazine for July 24 th , is one of much importance , and merits the attention of the authorities . The present neglect is to be much deplored , and the sooner a representative is appointed the better .

Masonry is not a dead letter , and has now , like in the past , a power for good , and much international benefit may be accomplished by her aid . To the Grand Lodge of England we say , use it , and hold out the rig ht hand of fellowship to our Erenoh brethren . —RES NON YERBA .

OLD LODGES . Bro . Hughan , so far from having contested my observations , has confirmed them . Such lodges as have designations have public-house names . The lodges he refers to have no names at all , but are described as lodges meeting in private rooms . The practice of iving Masonic names to lodges appears

g to have originated on the continent , and it is worthy of the antiquarian research of Bro . Hughan to give us the results of his observations . The earliest Paris lodges were treated as " public-house " lodges until one was named after a G . M . The practice of meeting in laces other than taverns has nothing to

p do with the point in question . The praiseworthy movement for holding lodge meetings at Masonic hallsj . and dinners in taverns appears of late years to have slackened . —JSTOTA .

JOINING BRETHREN AND INITIATIONS . No person can be initiated , neither can any joining members be admitted , on the same day that a new lodge is opened and consecrated . I am extremely anxious to know , however , if this rule extends to receiving propositions for joining brethren and

initiations , made after the consecration and installation ceremonies , and immediately before the lodge is closed ? Any information your readers can give me on this point will be thankfully received . —• $ < B < $ <

MxVRQUIS OP DALHOUSIE LODGE . In your Magazine is an account of the presentation of an address to Bro . Sir James Eergusson , Bart ., Governor of South Australia . At the last meeting of tho Marquis of Dalhousie Lodge , a P . M . ' s jewel was voted to him for services as first W . M . of that lodge . —J . C .

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BRIEF NARRATIVE OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND. Article 5
BIBLES AND OTHER, EARLY PRINTED BOOKS. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
THE ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 10
INELIGIBILITY OF CANDIDATES FOR FREEMASONRY. Article 11
MASONIC MEMS Article 12
GRAND LODGE. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
SCOTLAND. Article 13
EDINBURGH. Article 13
CANADA. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
REASONS FOR MASONIC SECRECY. Article 16
LODGES OF INSTRUCTION Article 17
RHETORIC OF MASONRY. Article 17
WHAT DOES FREEMASONRY TEACH? Article 17
Obituary. Article 18
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 18
Poetry. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 14TH AUGUST, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

REAL MASTERS VERSUS NONENTITIES . It would be interesting to know what proportion the real Masters bear to the nonentity fraternity . Who knows ? As the assumption of the insignia of a real Master by the nonentity is evidently a mistake ought not the distinguishing jewel of the latter to he a plain disc stamped with the letter " N ? "BEE VERSUS DRONE .

POPERY AND ROMAN CATHOLICS . A distinction must be drawn between Popery as an institution and many Roman Catholics as individuals ; for , while I consider that Popery has gradually grown up to be one of the most gigantic systems of imposition that ever existed , I yet believe

there are good men in , or nominally in , its ranks . They are in it , but they are not of it , they are like grains of gold in a lump of clay , which somehow cannot come out ; may we not , however , pray the Great Architect of the Universe that , as a little leaven leveneth the whole lump , so may these menby His

, blessing , he the instruments of its renovation ; may they soon cast down those great twin pillars , Bigotry and Ignorance , and in their stead set up those goodly columns Love and Truth . —PICTUS .

THE PRINCE OP WALES . It is satisfactory to know that the mind of " A ! New Member " is " much relieved , " though one is puzzled to know what caused the peculiar mental state which required "relief . " The idea of making H . R . H . a Past Grand Master was not my " proposition , " hut

apparently emanated from Lord Zetland himself . It does not matter much what precise title the Prince of Wales receives , but certainly that of " Grand Patron " is the most objectionable . Masonry wants brotherly help , not patronage . On the whole , we might adopt the Swedish plan with advantage , making the Prince Supreme Grand Master , and retaining Lord Zetland as G . M . —J . A . H .

LABOUR . AND REFRESHMENT . It is strange "Crux" does not know that this ancient practice can be seen in a London lodge . There is very sufficient reason for using the titles of officers at a banquet , because , whether the lodge he formally opened or notit is a distinct Masonic

cere-, mony , carried on according to practices which are landmarks in general Masonry and observed throughout the world . Consequently , in many countries such a celebration is considered as a Lodge of Festivity . It is a separation of part of a ceremony like a funeral .

The presence of strangers , or of the public , does not in all cases cause the titles of officers to he suppressed . The laying of a foundation stone , for instance , is one in point . The presentation of an address to the Sovereign is another . There is no reason generally why it should not be known that the

chief officer of a lodge of Ereemasons is the same as that of the chief officer of a city company of Masons . There is an independendent reason in the opening , that an intruder shall not know the technical form . of proceeding . —D . D . G . M .

MARQUIS OP SALISBURY . The Masonic paraphernalia of E . ¥ . Bro . the late Marquis of Salisbury were given by him to Bro . J . R . Dagg , of the Watford Lodge—546 .

MELANCTHON ON GERMANY AND SCOTLAND . " There is a letter of Melanethon , still extant , addressed to John Eidelis at Erancfort , 1556 , in which he introduces to him a Scotsman , named Linns or Lyne , as a man of learning and true piety , and in which , after reminding him that it is the will of God that we should show hospitality to such guestshe

, remarks , ' Eor my part , I think we Germans owe a special debt of gratitude to the Scottish nation ; because in former times we received from them both Christianity and letters , when the churches of Germany had been overrun and ruined by the Heneti and the Huns . '" *

INTERNATIONAL PELLOWSHIP . The article anent " The Grand Lodge of England and the Grand Masonic Body of Prance , " in the Freemasons'' Magazine for July 24 th , is one of much importance , and merits the attention of the authorities . The present neglect is to be much deplored , and the sooner a representative is appointed the better .

Masonry is not a dead letter , and has now , like in the past , a power for good , and much international benefit may be accomplished by her aid . To the Grand Lodge of England we say , use it , and hold out the rig ht hand of fellowship to our Erenoh brethren . —RES NON YERBA .

OLD LODGES . Bro . Hughan , so far from having contested my observations , has confirmed them . Such lodges as have designations have public-house names . The lodges he refers to have no names at all , but are described as lodges meeting in private rooms . The practice of iving Masonic names to lodges appears

g to have originated on the continent , and it is worthy of the antiquarian research of Bro . Hughan to give us the results of his observations . The earliest Paris lodges were treated as " public-house " lodges until one was named after a G . M . The practice of meeting in laces other than taverns has nothing to

p do with the point in question . The praiseworthy movement for holding lodge meetings at Masonic hallsj . and dinners in taverns appears of late years to have slackened . —JSTOTA .

JOINING BRETHREN AND INITIATIONS . No person can be initiated , neither can any joining members be admitted , on the same day that a new lodge is opened and consecrated . I am extremely anxious to know , however , if this rule extends to receiving propositions for joining brethren and

initiations , made after the consecration and installation ceremonies , and immediately before the lodge is closed ? Any information your readers can give me on this point will be thankfully received . —• $ < B < $ <

MxVRQUIS OP DALHOUSIE LODGE . In your Magazine is an account of the presentation of an address to Bro . Sir James Eergusson , Bart ., Governor of South Australia . At the last meeting of tho Marquis of Dalhousie Lodge , a P . M . ' s jewel was voted to him for services as first W . M . of that lodge . —J . C .

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