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Masonic Sayings And Doings Abroad.

their own peculiar tinge : accordingly the amount of our offence is to be found in our want of philosophical aspirations after an ideal Utopia Avhich appears to be a safety-valve for the passions in Prance , and on the continent generally . The Craft here lino AT of nothing political as a body . In Prance it is all political . One of the differences of the two countries may be

summed up in this political and non-political view Avhich they respectively take of Freemasonry . We are too well accustomed , as Englishmen , to liberty of speech and action not to sympathise with other nations where these daily boons find no entrance , and whilst Ave deplore Preemasonry being mixed up

with State affairs—there being no necessity for it in our own land—we cannot alter the feelings of other less fortunate peoples , and therefore say that the principles of the Order being observed , the manner of treating it must depend on the moral teaching and general ideas of each people . With this view , one of common sense we now close the subject .

GRAND ORIENT OE FRANCE . — -We have received from the official secretary copies of the Bulletin du Grand Orient de France , Supreme Gonseil , pour la France et les Possessions frangaises ; Journal Official de la Magonnerie frangaise , for the mouths of June , July , and August . These give a resume

of the business brought before the members at their regular meetings , much of which is of a local administrative character , and not of sufficient interest to the majority of our readers to reproduce . We find the following places having Grand Orients attached to them , and working under the Grand

Orient of Eranee ; but whether as independent jurisdictions , or similar to our own Provincial Grand Lodges , is not clear . The Grand Orient recognises and confirms the elections of Presidents of lodges , chapters ( S . P . R . » J < . ) , and councils , in each of the undermentioned localitiesbesides many othersviz . ;—

, , Abbeville , Gray , llheims , Alexandrie , Geneve , Rennes , -Alger , Havre , Rochefort , Alby , Jousac , Romans , Angouleme , Joigny , Rochelle ,

Aries , Longjumeau , Royan , Bagneux , Lyon , Saint-Loup , Beaucire , Lezignan , Saint-Germain-en-Beziers , Libourne , laye , Bordeaux , Limoges , Saint-Malo , Boulogne , Lori ' ent , St .-Jean d'Angel y ,

Belfort , Livourne , Saint-Denis , Blois , Marseille , Saint-Etienne , Besancou , Montauban , Strasbourg , Bone , Moustaganem , Tournon , Cognac , Montevideo , Toulon , Confolens , Marmande , Turin ,

Constantino , Mulhouse , Tarbes , Constantinople , Nantes , Troyes , Caen , Nancy , Tours , Cambrai , Neufchateau . Toulouse , Corfou , Nismes , Tunis , Corcasonne Paris Versailles

, , , Caussade , Pontoise , Vienne , Hreux , Perpignan , Valence , Dole , Perigueux , Vincennes , E pinal , Pointe-a-Pitre , Vernon , Essones , Rouen , Vitry-Ie-Frane . Fecamp , Rueil , Valparaiso .

The Committee appointed to revise the Statutes of the Order have been directed to have their revision printed and circulated amongst the lodges , for the latter to make their observations , ancl return them by the last day of the present year , in order that the Committee can digest the materials , fonvard them to the Counciland return the revisioncompletefor

, , , the decision of the Legislature in 186-fi—this being the result of placing the Craft amongst the other charitable institutions subordinate to the State . The protests against Freemasonry being included with other beneficent societies received by the Grand Orient , up to June last , are those of the lodges Amis

de rtlonneur franeais ; Amis de 1 'Ordre , Amis Triomphants . Clement Amitie , Efcoile polaire , Hospitaliers franeais , La Rennaissance par les Emules d'iiiram , Bienfaiture Seunis . Chapters—Rose du Parfait-Silence , Saint-Pierre des Acacias , and Sincere Amitie , all of which are located in Paris . In the province of Angouleme there are two lodges who protest ; in Bordeaux , six lodges ; in Chamber / , one lodge ; in Confolens , one lodge ; iu Diion , one lodge ; iu Jousac ,

one lodge ; m Montauban , one lodgo ; Nisines , . one lodge ; Rennes , one lodge and a brother Jouaust ; in Rochefort , one lodge ; Strasbourg , one ; Vienne , two , and Vincennes , two . The Bulletin contains the speech of Dr . Schinas , W . M . of a nevr lodge , 1 'Hnion d'Orient , which has been constitutedunder the Grand Orient of France

, , at Constantinople , and of Avhich Bro . Aznavour is a member . There being already a Prov . G . Lodge for Turkej ' , under the English Constitution , this invasion of Masouic territory and setting up of a rival jurisdiction is much to be deplored , aud it is to be hoped that the proper officer of our Grand Lodge will

immediately put himself in communication with Marshal Magnan ' s Grand Lodge , in order that this kind of encroachment may be avoided in the future . The following curious correspondence is also included in the June number . " Bro . Guillot , Grand Representative of the Rite of Memphis to the United States , addresses the following communication to Bro . Marconis : — " Orient of New York .

" Very dear Brother , —At the time of the terrible massacres in Syria , the lodges of the Rite of Memphis , in the United States , unanimously decided to address a letter of admiration , for his heroic conduct , to our illustrious companion Abd-el-Kader . As representative of the Order I was directed to Avrite that addressto which the Emir returned the

follow-, lowing response , full of good wishes : — ' Damascus , 9 Ramazan , 1277 . ' Praise be to God ! ' To the celebaated poet and very virtuous , honourable , and majestic chief , Edward Guillot , —may God heap His gifts on himand elevate him to the highest

, dignities ! ' I have received your cherished letter ; and your elegant expressions , together with your poetry , have caused me true pleasure . ' The grace aud expression of your -verses cause me to admire your wisdom .

'I am overwhelmed by the praises with Avhich you have loaded me , and I do not think I have deserved them . * As for your thanks , given for the protection ac-

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MOTHER KILWINNING. Article 1
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 2
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
CAN A WARDEN INITIATE, &c. ? Article 7
THE LUXURY OF FREEMASONRY. Article 8
ON THE CHRISTIANITY OF MASONRY. Article 8
THE ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES. Article 8
Untitled Article 9
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 16
CHANNEL ISLANDS, Article 16
Obituary. Article 17
Poetry. Article 18
DO THE THING THAT'S RIGHT, FRIEND. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Sayings And Doings Abroad.

their own peculiar tinge : accordingly the amount of our offence is to be found in our want of philosophical aspirations after an ideal Utopia Avhich appears to be a safety-valve for the passions in Prance , and on the continent generally . The Craft here lino AT of nothing political as a body . In Prance it is all political . One of the differences of the two countries may be

summed up in this political and non-political view Avhich they respectively take of Freemasonry . We are too well accustomed , as Englishmen , to liberty of speech and action not to sympathise with other nations where these daily boons find no entrance , and whilst Ave deplore Preemasonry being mixed up

with State affairs—there being no necessity for it in our own land—we cannot alter the feelings of other less fortunate peoples , and therefore say that the principles of the Order being observed , the manner of treating it must depend on the moral teaching and general ideas of each people . With this view , one of common sense we now close the subject .

GRAND ORIENT OE FRANCE . — -We have received from the official secretary copies of the Bulletin du Grand Orient de France , Supreme Gonseil , pour la France et les Possessions frangaises ; Journal Official de la Magonnerie frangaise , for the mouths of June , July , and August . These give a resume

of the business brought before the members at their regular meetings , much of which is of a local administrative character , and not of sufficient interest to the majority of our readers to reproduce . We find the following places having Grand Orients attached to them , and working under the Grand

Orient of Eranee ; but whether as independent jurisdictions , or similar to our own Provincial Grand Lodges , is not clear . The Grand Orient recognises and confirms the elections of Presidents of lodges , chapters ( S . P . R . » J < . ) , and councils , in each of the undermentioned localitiesbesides many othersviz . ;—

, , Abbeville , Gray , llheims , Alexandrie , Geneve , Rennes , -Alger , Havre , Rochefort , Alby , Jousac , Romans , Angouleme , Joigny , Rochelle ,

Aries , Longjumeau , Royan , Bagneux , Lyon , Saint-Loup , Beaucire , Lezignan , Saint-Germain-en-Beziers , Libourne , laye , Bordeaux , Limoges , Saint-Malo , Boulogne , Lori ' ent , St .-Jean d'Angel y ,

Belfort , Livourne , Saint-Denis , Blois , Marseille , Saint-Etienne , Besancou , Montauban , Strasbourg , Bone , Moustaganem , Tournon , Cognac , Montevideo , Toulon , Confolens , Marmande , Turin ,

Constantino , Mulhouse , Tarbes , Constantinople , Nantes , Troyes , Caen , Nancy , Tours , Cambrai , Neufchateau . Toulouse , Corfou , Nismes , Tunis , Corcasonne Paris Versailles

, , , Caussade , Pontoise , Vienne , Hreux , Perpignan , Valence , Dole , Perigueux , Vincennes , E pinal , Pointe-a-Pitre , Vernon , Essones , Rouen , Vitry-Ie-Frane . Fecamp , Rueil , Valparaiso .

The Committee appointed to revise the Statutes of the Order have been directed to have their revision printed and circulated amongst the lodges , for the latter to make their observations , ancl return them by the last day of the present year , in order that the Committee can digest the materials , fonvard them to the Counciland return the revisioncompletefor

, , , the decision of the Legislature in 186-fi—this being the result of placing the Craft amongst the other charitable institutions subordinate to the State . The protests against Freemasonry being included with other beneficent societies received by the Grand Orient , up to June last , are those of the lodges Amis

de rtlonneur franeais ; Amis de 1 'Ordre , Amis Triomphants . Clement Amitie , Efcoile polaire , Hospitaliers franeais , La Rennaissance par les Emules d'iiiram , Bienfaiture Seunis . Chapters—Rose du Parfait-Silence , Saint-Pierre des Acacias , and Sincere Amitie , all of which are located in Paris . In the province of Angouleme there are two lodges who protest ; in Bordeaux , six lodges ; in Chamber / , one lodge ; in Confolens , one lodge ; iu Diion , one lodge ; iu Jousac ,

one lodge ; m Montauban , one lodgo ; Nisines , . one lodge ; Rennes , one lodge and a brother Jouaust ; in Rochefort , one lodge ; Strasbourg , one ; Vienne , two , and Vincennes , two . The Bulletin contains the speech of Dr . Schinas , W . M . of a nevr lodge , 1 'Hnion d'Orient , which has been constitutedunder the Grand Orient of France

, , at Constantinople , and of Avhich Bro . Aznavour is a member . There being already a Prov . G . Lodge for Turkej ' , under the English Constitution , this invasion of Masouic territory and setting up of a rival jurisdiction is much to be deplored , aud it is to be hoped that the proper officer of our Grand Lodge will

immediately put himself in communication with Marshal Magnan ' s Grand Lodge , in order that this kind of encroachment may be avoided in the future . The following curious correspondence is also included in the June number . " Bro . Guillot , Grand Representative of the Rite of Memphis to the United States , addresses the following communication to Bro . Marconis : — " Orient of New York .

" Very dear Brother , —At the time of the terrible massacres in Syria , the lodges of the Rite of Memphis , in the United States , unanimously decided to address a letter of admiration , for his heroic conduct , to our illustrious companion Abd-el-Kader . As representative of the Order I was directed to Avrite that addressto which the Emir returned the

follow-, lowing response , full of good wishes : — ' Damascus , 9 Ramazan , 1277 . ' Praise be to God ! ' To the celebaated poet and very virtuous , honourable , and majestic chief , Edward Guillot , —may God heap His gifts on himand elevate him to the highest

, dignities ! ' I have received your cherished letter ; and your elegant expressions , together with your poetry , have caused me true pleasure . ' The grace aud expression of your -verses cause me to admire your wisdom .

'I am overwhelmed by the praises with Avhich you have loaded me , and I do not think I have deserved them . * As for your thanks , given for the protection ac-

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