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Can A Warden Initiate, &C. ?

aud unsullied when they have been consigned to oblivion , amongst old musty volumes , aud covered with dust , damp , and mildew for tho space of half-a-century ? The simple matter is that the union , in 1813 , did an amount of mischief to the principles of catholic Freemasonry such as no other event in the whole range of Masonic history can equal ; and wc , half-a-century later ,

feel it most keenly . The S 3 'stem revised by the Duke of Sussex , aud his agents , severed English Freemasonry from the Freemasonry of every other part of the world . It turned orders , degrees , landmarks , laws , faith , and every other fundamental principle upside down . It devised new rituals , tests , laws , and lectures ; and , in a spirit of solemn mockery , declared the power of its being able

to alter , repeal , and abrogate those laws which it professed could not be altered , repealed , or abrogated by any man or body of men . Holding , for myself , that a Warden can initiate , my object in addressing you is not so much to enter into that question , but to caution our younger brethren against the errors of Bro . William Blackburn for whom

I entertain , personally , very groat respect , but whose opinions , backed by his official rank , may cause many to adopt his mistakes and further confuse our already obscured system of Freemasonry . I am , dear Sir and Brother , Yours truly aud fraternally , M . C .

The Luxury Of Freemasonry.

THE LUXURY OF FREEMASONRY .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASON * ' MACrAZIXE A > 'D MASOXIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BIIOTUEU , —In your report of the last meeting of the Royal Masonic Institutions for Boys , Bro . Udall concludes by saying , " Ho was decidedly of opinion that they should not educate the children of men who were in the receipt of £ 100 a year and upwards . " Permit me to enquire if £ 100 a year is the maximum

or the minimum sum at which the luxury of Freemasonry should be indulged in ? Because , if it is the maximum , it may be very properly presumed that nearly all Freemasons would require some aid to educate their sons . If it is the minimum , then those who were not possessed of that income ought not to have been made Freemasons .

Is the Boj's' School for the benefit of Freemasons who cannot afford to educate their children , or , as Bro . Udall delicately puts it , for the sons of " men " with less than £ 100 a year ? And , in the hitter case , is it not holding out a premium for such " men " to , literally , act accordins ; to the words of the marriage service , — " bo fruitful and multiply

and replenish the earth . " One more question only . Does the possession of an income of less than £ 100 a year reduce , or elevate , a brother , whom the lodge teaches all to look on as an equal to—the rank of one of those made in God's own image- —a " man " ? Yours sincerely and fraternally , A MAN ASD A BROTHER .

On The Christianity Of Masonry.

ON THE CHRISTIANITY OF MASONRY .

IO THE EDITOR OP TIIE 1 'ilEEMASOXs' . "ItAGAZIi'E AXD MASOXIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I hasten to correct a slight mistake on my part which , on perusal , I find to exist in my letter on the above subject . The register of Wm . Molash , by a careless error of my own , is said to be in the library of Christ Church CollegeOxfordwhereas it is to be found among the Tanner

, , MSS . in the Bodleian Library , Oxford . There are registers extant ' in Christ Church College Library , but the one I made mention of is in the Bodleian Library . Yours fraternally , THIRD DEGREE .

The Antiquity Of Masonic Degrees.

THE ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES .

50 THE EDITOR OF THE TREEMASOXS' MAGAZINE AXD MASOXIC MIRROR . DEMI SIR AND BROTHER , —I observe a short communication , signed "Rosa Crucis , " in your number of tho 17 th inst ., ancl which , though both personal in its tone and un-Masonic in its spirit , I am unwilling to allow to remain altogether unnoticed . Indeed , as "Rosa Crucis" seems disposed to pour

upon my devoted head the excess of his indignation , because I have sought to uphold the antiquity and validity of our Craft ritual , I readily accept the challenge which he so rashly offers . I might , indeed , have felt myself excused , from the obvious ignorance on his part of the forms of common courtesy and the sentiments of Masonic

forbearance ; but I prefer to leave unworthy personalities to himself , ancl simply answer that hasty and inconsiderate letter . "Rosa Crucis" sets by way of contrast , " -the modern Craft and Royal Arch rituals drawn up and tinkered , " he is pleased to assert , " by half-a-dozen hands to suit the vagaries of the Duke of Sussex , after tho union in

1813 , " against that "of the chivalric degrees " which , he declares , " a century before were worked in York and . Bristol . " I will say nothing now of the singular bad taste which marks such an ebullition of un-Masonic feeling , but will content myself with observing , that a more childish or preposterous claim never could be made , a more

unhistorical account never could be given , than this , which is so irreverently obtruded by "Rosa Crucis" on thepatience and forbearance of the Craft . Even to take the statement of "Rosa Crucis " per so , and to consider it in its plain and direct meaning . Ho will not venture to assert that our present Craft ritual was not worked Ions before 1813—nay , he knows as well as I do that , in 1715 , and long before 1715 , the same system we have now was in full operation , in all its

leading particulars , in this country . Of this , plenty of evidence is happily forthcoming ; indeed , it may without fear of contradiction bo affirmed , that there is substantial evidence which goes back to the middle of the 17 th century , as to the identity of our Craft ritual , now as then . What then , becomes , of tho first polite suggestion of

" Rosa Crucis , " that our present ritual is nothing but the tinkering of half-a-dozen hands after the union in 1813 ,. and hence ilia superior antiquity of the chivalric degrees which were worked a century before , that would be 1713 ,. iu York and Bristol . But , in the next place , what does "Rosa Crneis" " mean by the magnificent term " chivalric degrees ? "

It is absolutely necessary that wc should have a clear understanding on this point , since of late we have been so overpowered with this and like expressions , that we have witnessed , as a certain consequence , both the mystification of the unlearned and the easy gratification of the credulous . Does " Rosa Crucis" mean then , by the word chivalric ,

that interminable list of so called knightly degrees , with their absurd names and absurder ceremonies , which still , to the hurt of true Masonry , prevails largely in many parts of the Continent ? Or docs he mean that- reduced list which suits the more sober taste of our own country ? But I will assume that " Rosa Crucis" alludes by

this epithet mainl } ' to the Templar body . What , then , is the real history of that Masonic organisation now amongst us ? With every respect and kindly feeling for the Templar Masons , I never yet met with a member of that Order , who would deliberately affirm , or actually believed , that the present Templar Ritual was in the remotest degree connected with the real old Templar body . Dr . Leeson , who is a far better authority than "Rosa Crucis " on all such matters as these , seems to hold but

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MOTHER KILWINNING. Article 1
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 2
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
CAN A WARDEN INITIATE, &c. ? Article 7
THE LUXURY OF FREEMASONRY. Article 8
ON THE CHRISTIANITY OF MASONRY. Article 8
THE ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES. Article 8
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METROPOLITAN. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 16
CHANNEL ISLANDS, Article 16
Obituary. Article 17
Poetry. Article 18
DO THE THING THAT'S RIGHT, FRIEND. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Can A Warden Initiate, &C. ?

aud unsullied when they have been consigned to oblivion , amongst old musty volumes , aud covered with dust , damp , and mildew for tho space of half-a-century ? The simple matter is that the union , in 1813 , did an amount of mischief to the principles of catholic Freemasonry such as no other event in the whole range of Masonic history can equal ; and wc , half-a-century later ,

feel it most keenly . The S 3 'stem revised by the Duke of Sussex , aud his agents , severed English Freemasonry from the Freemasonry of every other part of the world . It turned orders , degrees , landmarks , laws , faith , and every other fundamental principle upside down . It devised new rituals , tests , laws , and lectures ; and , in a spirit of solemn mockery , declared the power of its being able

to alter , repeal , and abrogate those laws which it professed could not be altered , repealed , or abrogated by any man or body of men . Holding , for myself , that a Warden can initiate , my object in addressing you is not so much to enter into that question , but to caution our younger brethren against the errors of Bro . William Blackburn for whom

I entertain , personally , very groat respect , but whose opinions , backed by his official rank , may cause many to adopt his mistakes and further confuse our already obscured system of Freemasonry . I am , dear Sir and Brother , Yours truly aud fraternally , M . C .

The Luxury Of Freemasonry.

THE LUXURY OF FREEMASONRY .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASON * ' MACrAZIXE A > 'D MASOXIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BIIOTUEU , —In your report of the last meeting of the Royal Masonic Institutions for Boys , Bro . Udall concludes by saying , " Ho was decidedly of opinion that they should not educate the children of men who were in the receipt of £ 100 a year and upwards . " Permit me to enquire if £ 100 a year is the maximum

or the minimum sum at which the luxury of Freemasonry should be indulged in ? Because , if it is the maximum , it may be very properly presumed that nearly all Freemasons would require some aid to educate their sons . If it is the minimum , then those who were not possessed of that income ought not to have been made Freemasons .

Is the Boj's' School for the benefit of Freemasons who cannot afford to educate their children , or , as Bro . Udall delicately puts it , for the sons of " men " with less than £ 100 a year ? And , in the hitter case , is it not holding out a premium for such " men " to , literally , act accordins ; to the words of the marriage service , — " bo fruitful and multiply

and replenish the earth . " One more question only . Does the possession of an income of less than £ 100 a year reduce , or elevate , a brother , whom the lodge teaches all to look on as an equal to—the rank of one of those made in God's own image- —a " man " ? Yours sincerely and fraternally , A MAN ASD A BROTHER .

On The Christianity Of Masonry.

ON THE CHRISTIANITY OF MASONRY .

IO THE EDITOR OP TIIE 1 'ilEEMASOXs' . "ItAGAZIi'E AXD MASOXIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I hasten to correct a slight mistake on my part which , on perusal , I find to exist in my letter on the above subject . The register of Wm . Molash , by a careless error of my own , is said to be in the library of Christ Church CollegeOxfordwhereas it is to be found among the Tanner

, , MSS . in the Bodleian Library , Oxford . There are registers extant ' in Christ Church College Library , but the one I made mention of is in the Bodleian Library . Yours fraternally , THIRD DEGREE .

The Antiquity Of Masonic Degrees.

THE ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES .

50 THE EDITOR OF THE TREEMASOXS' MAGAZINE AXD MASOXIC MIRROR . DEMI SIR AND BROTHER , —I observe a short communication , signed "Rosa Crucis , " in your number of tho 17 th inst ., ancl which , though both personal in its tone and un-Masonic in its spirit , I am unwilling to allow to remain altogether unnoticed . Indeed , as "Rosa Crucis" seems disposed to pour

upon my devoted head the excess of his indignation , because I have sought to uphold the antiquity and validity of our Craft ritual , I readily accept the challenge which he so rashly offers . I might , indeed , have felt myself excused , from the obvious ignorance on his part of the forms of common courtesy and the sentiments of Masonic

forbearance ; but I prefer to leave unworthy personalities to himself , ancl simply answer that hasty and inconsiderate letter . "Rosa Crucis" sets by way of contrast , " -the modern Craft and Royal Arch rituals drawn up and tinkered , " he is pleased to assert , " by half-a-dozen hands to suit the vagaries of the Duke of Sussex , after tho union in

1813 , " against that "of the chivalric degrees " which , he declares , " a century before were worked in York and . Bristol . " I will say nothing now of the singular bad taste which marks such an ebullition of un-Masonic feeling , but will content myself with observing , that a more childish or preposterous claim never could be made , a more

unhistorical account never could be given , than this , which is so irreverently obtruded by "Rosa Crucis" on thepatience and forbearance of the Craft . Even to take the statement of "Rosa Crucis " per so , and to consider it in its plain and direct meaning . Ho will not venture to assert that our present Craft ritual was not worked Ions before 1813—nay , he knows as well as I do that , in 1715 , and long before 1715 , the same system we have now was in full operation , in all its

leading particulars , in this country . Of this , plenty of evidence is happily forthcoming ; indeed , it may without fear of contradiction bo affirmed , that there is substantial evidence which goes back to the middle of the 17 th century , as to the identity of our Craft ritual , now as then . What then , becomes , of tho first polite suggestion of

" Rosa Crucis , " that our present ritual is nothing but the tinkering of half-a-dozen hands after the union in 1813 ,. and hence ilia superior antiquity of the chivalric degrees which were worked a century before , that would be 1713 ,. iu York and Bristol . But , in the next place , what does "Rosa Crneis" " mean by the magnificent term " chivalric degrees ? "

It is absolutely necessary that wc should have a clear understanding on this point , since of late we have been so overpowered with this and like expressions , that we have witnessed , as a certain consequence , both the mystification of the unlearned and the easy gratification of the credulous . Does " Rosa Crucis" mean then , by the word chivalric ,

that interminable list of so called knightly degrees , with their absurd names and absurder ceremonies , which still , to the hurt of true Masonry , prevails largely in many parts of the Continent ? Or docs he mean that- reduced list which suits the more sober taste of our own country ? But I will assume that " Rosa Crucis" alludes by

this epithet mainl } ' to the Templar body . What , then , is the real history of that Masonic organisation now amongst us ? With every respect and kindly feeling for the Templar Masons , I never yet met with a member of that Order , who would deliberately affirm , or actually believed , that the present Templar Ritual was in the remotest degree connected with the real old Templar body . Dr . Leeson , who is a far better authority than "Rosa Crucis " on all such matters as these , seems to hold but

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