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Masonic Notes And Queries.

what it means ? It has certainly a Masonic look about it . —ENQTJIEEE . —

[ If you had sent the " old manuscript" along with the diagram , we might have been able to judge whether it arises from a Masonic or non-Masonic source . You are doubtless aware that the pentagram as well as the hexagram are very common Masonic signs , but they are not the exclusive property of the Craft . In the Middle Agesconsiderable magic

, powers used to be ascribed to the pentagram . In Germany ( where it was called Druid-en fuss ) people used to wear about their neck a metal plate , cut in the shape of a pentagram , with the letters SALUS ( health ) in the five corners , and they considered it as an amulet or talisman . Your diagram has no

magic character of this kind ; the inscriptions round it are neither magic nor Masonic , but rather erratic . ' APAHH in Greek means love , SALVE in Latin , not salve , hut liail . Perhaps the diagram was drawn by some enamoured desoeuvre in an hour of idleness ; hut , as it stands , it has certainly no " Masonic look about it . " —ED . P . M . ]

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . BYE LAWS . BYE-LAWS . BY-LAWS . TO THE EDITOE 01 ? THE FHEE 3 IA 50 NS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAE SIE AND BROTHEB , — -I was very glad to find that my letter in your MAGAZINENO . 394 of the 19 th

, , ¦ of January , elicited some replies , and I have waited in the hope that some further light may be thrown on the subject before again entering upon it myself . I thank your correspondent " Macealclus , " 1075 , for his information , not only on the above subject , but

also for the interesting extract from " A New Law Dictionarv" regarding Masons . Your correspondent " Jno . B , Brewer , sec . 70 , " has drawn me into a fog , I cannot at all see my way with him—he says , " 1 gave from Johnson ' By or bee

comes immediately from the Saxon By , byinz , i . e ., a dwelling . ' Bye Law , therefore , stands with me a home-law , " & c , & c . The worthy brother also states that "by the revived word Bye we have drawn from its obscurity

an elegant , simple , significant in meaning . " I must confess that I am quite obscured myself by his remarks . The compound word Bye-Laws is either right or

Correspondence.

wrong—if right , then the word By-Laws is wrong , and the best Lexicographers the world ever produced are wrong . On the formation of the lodge over which I have the honour to preside I sent a rough copy of the By-Laws to London for engrossment in a book for the signatures of the members—to my

surprise it was sent to me with the objectionable heading—Bye-Laws , & z . ; I at once returned it , and had a fresh copy engrossed , with the correct heading —By-Laws . On the P . G . M . signing his approval , I noticed that he wrote Bye-Laws . I asked him . why

the e was placed , he apologised and immediately put his pen through the e , and formed the hyphen with it ; from conversations I have had with different brethren on the matter I think the e has been placed instead of the hyphen to save time or trouble . How

often do we see on letters good bye !—by and bye lathis is all wrong , there is no such word as bye in our language , and I trust the Freemasons who desire to write orthographically correct will avoid an error so crass as to mis-spoil a very important word so often used by the fraternity .

By the by , I have just received Grand Lodge papers , and in them I find , the Board of General Purposes , in their report of last Grand Lodge meeting these words , "but such Dye-Laws shall not be valid , & c , & c . " I hope this is a printer ' s error ; if

not , ancl it was intentionally placed , I think I must ask the chairman for his authority . Freemasons , of all men , should study the art of writing aud speaking correctly . I am Dear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternally , W . M ., 1101 .

Death Of Bro. Dr. Oliver.

DEATH OF BRO . DR . OLIVER .

TO TEE EDITOa OF THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAE SIE AXD BEOTIIEE , — -It is my painful duty to announce to you the death of our highly-esteemed and venerable Bro . Dr . Oliver , who departed this life on the evening of the 3 rd inst . A Dispensation having been granted to the " W . M .

aud brethren of the Witham Lodge , for the interment with the ceremonies of the Order , which will take place on Thursday nest , they will be glad to see any brother , to take part in the Masonic procession , who may wish to pay respect to departed worth .

The brethren will meet at the County Assembly Rooms , Lincoln , and the funeral cortege will leave the house in East-gate at one o ' clock precisely . The brethren will appear in full Masonic clothing , with white gloves , aud will wear the apron outside the coatthe rosettes aud Tassels bains covered

, wiih black crape . I am clear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternall v , C . E . LUCAS , Prov . G . Sec ,

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HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY IN CORNWALL. Article 1
THE NEMESIS: A TALE OF THE DAYS OF TRAJAN. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 5
DEATH OF BRO. DR. OLIVER. Article 5
MASONIC MEMS. Article 6
GRAND LODGE. Article 6
METROPOLITAN. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
SCOTLAND. Article 14
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 14
MARK MASONRY. Article 15
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 15
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 16
Obituary. Article 16
MEETINGS OF THE SCIENTIFIC AND LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING MARCH Article 19
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

what it means ? It has certainly a Masonic look about it . —ENQTJIEEE . —

[ If you had sent the " old manuscript" along with the diagram , we might have been able to judge whether it arises from a Masonic or non-Masonic source . You are doubtless aware that the pentagram as well as the hexagram are very common Masonic signs , but they are not the exclusive property of the Craft . In the Middle Agesconsiderable magic

, powers used to be ascribed to the pentagram . In Germany ( where it was called Druid-en fuss ) people used to wear about their neck a metal plate , cut in the shape of a pentagram , with the letters SALUS ( health ) in the five corners , and they considered it as an amulet or talisman . Your diagram has no

magic character of this kind ; the inscriptions round it are neither magic nor Masonic , but rather erratic . ' APAHH in Greek means love , SALVE in Latin , not salve , hut liail . Perhaps the diagram was drawn by some enamoured desoeuvre in an hour of idleness ; hut , as it stands , it has certainly no " Masonic look about it . " —ED . P . M . ]

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . BYE LAWS . BYE-LAWS . BY-LAWS . TO THE EDITOE 01 ? THE FHEE 3 IA 50 NS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAE SIE AND BROTHEB , — -I was very glad to find that my letter in your MAGAZINENO . 394 of the 19 th

, , ¦ of January , elicited some replies , and I have waited in the hope that some further light may be thrown on the subject before again entering upon it myself . I thank your correspondent " Macealclus , " 1075 , for his information , not only on the above subject , but

also for the interesting extract from " A New Law Dictionarv" regarding Masons . Your correspondent " Jno . B , Brewer , sec . 70 , " has drawn me into a fog , I cannot at all see my way with him—he says , " 1 gave from Johnson ' By or bee

comes immediately from the Saxon By , byinz , i . e ., a dwelling . ' Bye Law , therefore , stands with me a home-law , " & c , & c . The worthy brother also states that "by the revived word Bye we have drawn from its obscurity

an elegant , simple , significant in meaning . " I must confess that I am quite obscured myself by his remarks . The compound word Bye-Laws is either right or

Correspondence.

wrong—if right , then the word By-Laws is wrong , and the best Lexicographers the world ever produced are wrong . On the formation of the lodge over which I have the honour to preside I sent a rough copy of the By-Laws to London for engrossment in a book for the signatures of the members—to my

surprise it was sent to me with the objectionable heading—Bye-Laws , & z . ; I at once returned it , and had a fresh copy engrossed , with the correct heading —By-Laws . On the P . G . M . signing his approval , I noticed that he wrote Bye-Laws . I asked him . why

the e was placed , he apologised and immediately put his pen through the e , and formed the hyphen with it ; from conversations I have had with different brethren on the matter I think the e has been placed instead of the hyphen to save time or trouble . How

often do we see on letters good bye !—by and bye lathis is all wrong , there is no such word as bye in our language , and I trust the Freemasons who desire to write orthographically correct will avoid an error so crass as to mis-spoil a very important word so often used by the fraternity .

By the by , I have just received Grand Lodge papers , and in them I find , the Board of General Purposes , in their report of last Grand Lodge meeting these words , "but such Dye-Laws shall not be valid , & c , & c . " I hope this is a printer ' s error ; if

not , ancl it was intentionally placed , I think I must ask the chairman for his authority . Freemasons , of all men , should study the art of writing aud speaking correctly . I am Dear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternally , W . M ., 1101 .

Death Of Bro. Dr. Oliver.

DEATH OF BRO . DR . OLIVER .

TO TEE EDITOa OF THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAE SIE AXD BEOTIIEE , — -It is my painful duty to announce to you the death of our highly-esteemed and venerable Bro . Dr . Oliver , who departed this life on the evening of the 3 rd inst . A Dispensation having been granted to the " W . M .

aud brethren of the Witham Lodge , for the interment with the ceremonies of the Order , which will take place on Thursday nest , they will be glad to see any brother , to take part in the Masonic procession , who may wish to pay respect to departed worth .

The brethren will meet at the County Assembly Rooms , Lincoln , and the funeral cortege will leave the house in East-gate at one o ' clock precisely . The brethren will appear in full Masonic clothing , with white gloves , aud will wear the apron outside the coatthe rosettes aud Tassels bains covered

, wiih black crape . I am clear Sir and Brother , Yours fraternall v , C . E . LUCAS , Prov . G . Sec ,

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