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committee , who enter cinder an arch ot foliage , towards the East . " What do you bring hero , my brothers ? " asks the W . M ., addressing the godfathers , A . " The son of one of our brothers , whom the lodge will p lease to adopt , " replies the S . W . " What is his name , and A \ -hat masonic name do you wish to ive him ?

o- " D The godfather replies , in adding to the family and given names of the child , some characteristic name , such as Truth , Veracity , Devotedness , Benevolence , or some other of this sort . Here the W . M . descends the steps of the East , approaches to the" LoA-eteau , and extending his hands above the childV head , addresses to heaven a prayer , that tho child be worth y one clay ofthe love ancl care that the lodge will bestow upon

him . After which he thvoivs incense in the censer , and pronounces tho E . A . 's obligation , which the godfathers repeat after him for the Loveteau . He then ties a white leather apron to the child , and proclaims him an adopted child of the lodge , and all the brethren applaud . The ceremonies accomplished , tho W , M , returns to his throne , orders the S . and J . W . 's , with the Loveteau , to the head ofthe North columnand repeats to them the obligationto which as

, , godfathers , they are bound . After this , the Loveteau is carried hack , with the same ceremony , to the adjoining room and delivered to his nurse . The adoption of a Loveteau binds all the members of the lodge to watch over and superintend his education , and afterwards to render him assistance ifj 'in their judgment , they deem it necessary . Accurate minutes are taken of the ceremonyivhich is signed

, hy all the members of the lodge , and is given to the father of the Loveteau- This record exempts the Loveteau , when he has attained the age required for initiation , from all the ceremonies . He is only bound to repeat , in his own name and for himself , the obligation of anE . A ., ivhich had already been made for him in his infancy hy the S . and J . Wardens .

ADMIRAL SIR CHARLES NAPIER . " Was the late Admiral Sir Charles Napier a Mason , aud if so , where was he made ?—CENT . GRAND HONOURS . "What are the Grand Honours in Masonry ?—E . —[ Go to a lodge of Instruction and enquire ; ive cannot undertake to tell you in print . ]

WEARING A ROVAL ARCII SASH IN LODGE . Is there any law against wearing a Eoyal Arch Sash iu lodge ? The jewel is allowed why not the sash?—ST . J . U . C . EARLY CEREMONY OE INITIATION . Before we had our ceremonies so fully developed , as at present , how was the initiation of Masons performed ?

—A . B . —{ All the oldest authorities , that is charges and regulations , require that at the admission of a new brother those charges should be read to him . He was then called upon to swear to them and the brethren making him communicated , in the best way they could , the secrets , signs , & c , and any information they thought likely to be useful . The ceremony wasno doubt

, , extemporised , according to the ability of those granting the degree . ] LORD MOIRA ' S COLLAR . What has become of tho collar presented to Lord Moira by Grand Lodge ?—ELTON . —[ No doubt it is preserved by the Hastings family as an heir-loom . ]

PRECEDES CE . Are Grand Stewards , after they are out of office , Grand Officers?—S— [ So : Past Grand Officers . ] BRO . LEON DESHAYS . "Who was Bro . Leon Deshays ?—W . G . FREEMASONRY AND TIIE INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION . Is there idea of havina Grand Masonic

gatherany g ing during the time the International Exhibition is open ? Mi ght not there bo a meeting held by several lodges , joing in one for the occasion , Eoyal Arch Chapters , Encampments , and High Grades , each doing the same , to receive our Masonic brethren from abroad . Would

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there be any objection to this ? A day could be named for each degree , and it could be made known all over the continent by the Masonic press . This would promote brotherly love , one of the three great principles ? —Ex . Ex .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The JSditor is not responsible for the opinions expressed hy Correspondents * TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS 3 __ EAGAZI 2 fE A > fD MASONIC 3 IIRK 03 . BAISING THE SALARY OE THE GEAND SCEIBE E .

DEAR SIR AND COMPANION , —The present is not a time to waste the funds of Grand Lodge or Grand Chapter when every shilling is likely to be required for the purposed alterations in the Masonic property . Why the Committee of Grand Chapter are of opinion that the Grand Scribe E ' s . salary should be increased by £ 20 per annum on the mere fanciful pretext that the same is not

equal to what they so graciously term " one ofhis clerks '' is beyond my comprehension . The clerk in question has , by long ancl well tried services , merited the stipend he receives , and as he has to write the minutes and do the actual unseen business of the Grand Chapter it is a doubtful point on Avhat grounds , save that of an inequality , the Grand Scribe E . should look for an

increase . Certainly not for lengthened services , or for the onerous duties which he is supposed to render . This continual gratuity , or advance of Avages , system should be checked as its tendency is to create extravagant hopes in the mind of very handsomely remunerated officers . Hoping the members of Grand Chapter before they confirm the minutes granting this increase , will look

seriously to the amount of labour personally performed by the Grand Scribe E . and have a return made showing what is really done for the salary received , at present , in the same manner in which Government officials are compelled to account for their usefulness and devotion to the public service , and that we may hear no more of " fancy opinions of fairness" where no just comparisons can exist . I beg to subscribe myself . A COMPANION OE THE EOYAL ARCH .

The High Grades.

THE HIGH GRADES .

TO THE EDITOR OE THE _ - „__ : _ CASO : _ S' ___ . C . A _ I _ r : _ A _ N"D UTASOXIC MIESOH . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I must again trespass upon your time and space , and ask for the kind insertion of the following remarks in your next number . I am very anxious to recall the attention of your readers to the origin of tbe present controversy respecting the "High Grades , " as they are called .

Your readers will , I trust , remember , that my two last letters were written in answer to , not in anticipation of , two letters signed respectively " M . H . S . " and M . H . Shuttieworth . Those letters of mine , which you were good enough to print in your columns , were intended to uphold the history and tradition of the Craftas I presumed to

, regard them , but were not written to attack any other grade , high or low . Bub , as often happens in controversy , the mode of attack brought out some salient points of defence , which necessai'ily came into serious collision at _ once , with preconceived opinions and cherished prejudices . Yet be it remembered , the oi-i ginal cause of controversy lay not with me , bub with Bro .

Shuttieworth , who in order to illustrate as he wished , the superior claims and authority ofthe "High Grades , " put forward statements and arguments respecting Craft Masonry , ivhich , if allowed to remain unchallenged or unanswered , would seem to the brethren at largo alike unchallengeable and unanswerable . It ivas under such circumstances , and in answer alone to such statements and argumeuts , calculated as they were to infuse

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DEGREES OF FREEMASONRY.— Continued from Page 349 (Notes and Queries). Article 7
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 8
THE PRESTONIAN LECTURE. Article 8
THE ROYAL BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION. Article 8
THE LODGE OF BENEVOLENCE. Article 8
THE GIRLS' SCHOOL. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
INSTRUCTION. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
INDIA, Article 15
CALCUTTA. Article 16
AMERICA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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committee , who enter cinder an arch ot foliage , towards the East . " What do you bring hero , my brothers ? " asks the W . M ., addressing the godfathers , A . " The son of one of our brothers , whom the lodge will p lease to adopt , " replies the S . W . " What is his name , and A \ -hat masonic name do you wish to ive him ?

o- " D The godfather replies , in adding to the family and given names of the child , some characteristic name , such as Truth , Veracity , Devotedness , Benevolence , or some other of this sort . Here the W . M . descends the steps of the East , approaches to the" LoA-eteau , and extending his hands above the childV head , addresses to heaven a prayer , that tho child be worth y one clay ofthe love ancl care that the lodge will bestow upon

him . After which he thvoivs incense in the censer , and pronounces tho E . A . 's obligation , which the godfathers repeat after him for the Loveteau . He then ties a white leather apron to the child , and proclaims him an adopted child of the lodge , and all the brethren applaud . The ceremonies accomplished , tho W , M , returns to his throne , orders the S . and J . W . 's , with the Loveteau , to the head ofthe North columnand repeats to them the obligationto which as

, , godfathers , they are bound . After this , the Loveteau is carried hack , with the same ceremony , to the adjoining room and delivered to his nurse . The adoption of a Loveteau binds all the members of the lodge to watch over and superintend his education , and afterwards to render him assistance ifj 'in their judgment , they deem it necessary . Accurate minutes are taken of the ceremonyivhich is signed

, hy all the members of the lodge , and is given to the father of the Loveteau- This record exempts the Loveteau , when he has attained the age required for initiation , from all the ceremonies . He is only bound to repeat , in his own name and for himself , the obligation of anE . A ., ivhich had already been made for him in his infancy hy the S . and J . Wardens .

ADMIRAL SIR CHARLES NAPIER . " Was the late Admiral Sir Charles Napier a Mason , aud if so , where was he made ?—CENT . GRAND HONOURS . "What are the Grand Honours in Masonry ?—E . —[ Go to a lodge of Instruction and enquire ; ive cannot undertake to tell you in print . ]

WEARING A ROVAL ARCII SASH IN LODGE . Is there any law against wearing a Eoyal Arch Sash iu lodge ? The jewel is allowed why not the sash?—ST . J . U . C . EARLY CEREMONY OE INITIATION . Before we had our ceremonies so fully developed , as at present , how was the initiation of Masons performed ?

—A . B . —{ All the oldest authorities , that is charges and regulations , require that at the admission of a new brother those charges should be read to him . He was then called upon to swear to them and the brethren making him communicated , in the best way they could , the secrets , signs , & c , and any information they thought likely to be useful . The ceremony wasno doubt

, , extemporised , according to the ability of those granting the degree . ] LORD MOIRA ' S COLLAR . What has become of tho collar presented to Lord Moira by Grand Lodge ?—ELTON . —[ No doubt it is preserved by the Hastings family as an heir-loom . ]

PRECEDES CE . Are Grand Stewards , after they are out of office , Grand Officers?—S— [ So : Past Grand Officers . ] BRO . LEON DESHAYS . "Who was Bro . Leon Deshays ?—W . G . FREEMASONRY AND TIIE INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION . Is there idea of havina Grand Masonic

gatherany g ing during the time the International Exhibition is open ? Mi ght not there bo a meeting held by several lodges , joing in one for the occasion , Eoyal Arch Chapters , Encampments , and High Grades , each doing the same , to receive our Masonic brethren from abroad . Would

Masonic Notes And Queries.

there be any objection to this ? A day could be named for each degree , and it could be made known all over the continent by the Masonic press . This would promote brotherly love , one of the three great principles ? —Ex . Ex .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The JSditor is not responsible for the opinions expressed hy Correspondents * TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS 3 __ EAGAZI 2 fE A > fD MASONIC 3 IIRK 03 . BAISING THE SALARY OE THE GEAND SCEIBE E .

DEAR SIR AND COMPANION , —The present is not a time to waste the funds of Grand Lodge or Grand Chapter when every shilling is likely to be required for the purposed alterations in the Masonic property . Why the Committee of Grand Chapter are of opinion that the Grand Scribe E ' s . salary should be increased by £ 20 per annum on the mere fanciful pretext that the same is not

equal to what they so graciously term " one ofhis clerks '' is beyond my comprehension . The clerk in question has , by long ancl well tried services , merited the stipend he receives , and as he has to write the minutes and do the actual unseen business of the Grand Chapter it is a doubtful point on Avhat grounds , save that of an inequality , the Grand Scribe E . should look for an

increase . Certainly not for lengthened services , or for the onerous duties which he is supposed to render . This continual gratuity , or advance of Avages , system should be checked as its tendency is to create extravagant hopes in the mind of very handsomely remunerated officers . Hoping the members of Grand Chapter before they confirm the minutes granting this increase , will look

seriously to the amount of labour personally performed by the Grand Scribe E . and have a return made showing what is really done for the salary received , at present , in the same manner in which Government officials are compelled to account for their usefulness and devotion to the public service , and that we may hear no more of " fancy opinions of fairness" where no just comparisons can exist . I beg to subscribe myself . A COMPANION OE THE EOYAL ARCH .

The High Grades.

THE HIGH GRADES .

TO THE EDITOR OE THE _ - „__ : _ CASO : _ S' ___ . C . A _ I _ r : _ A _ N"D UTASOXIC MIESOH . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I must again trespass upon your time and space , and ask for the kind insertion of the following remarks in your next number . I am very anxious to recall the attention of your readers to the origin of tbe present controversy respecting the "High Grades , " as they are called .

Your readers will , I trust , remember , that my two last letters were written in answer to , not in anticipation of , two letters signed respectively " M . H . S . " and M . H . Shuttieworth . Those letters of mine , which you were good enough to print in your columns , were intended to uphold the history and tradition of the Craftas I presumed to

, regard them , but were not written to attack any other grade , high or low . Bub , as often happens in controversy , the mode of attack brought out some salient points of defence , which necessai'ily came into serious collision at _ once , with preconceived opinions and cherished prejudices . Yet be it remembered , the oi-i ginal cause of controversy lay not with me , bub with Bro .

Shuttieworth , who in order to illustrate as he wished , the superior claims and authority ofthe "High Grades , " put forward statements and arguments respecting Craft Masonry , ivhich , if allowed to remain unchallenged or unanswered , would seem to the brethren at largo alike unchallengeable and unanswerable . It ivas under such circumstances , and in answer alone to such statements and argumeuts , calculated as they were to infuse

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