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her daughter lodges 1763 persons in the year , of which they are classified thus : — Five hundred and twenty-nine are farmers . Four hundred and thirty-eight are mechanics . Three hundred and tvrelve are merchants , traders , and druggists . Thirty-four are ministers of the gospel .

Twenty-six are attorneys-at-law . Sixty-nine are physicians and dentists . Twenty-five hold county , city , and judiciary offices . Tiventy are teachers of music or schools . ^ Six are editors of newspapers . Sixty-six are railroad men . Twenty-five are hotel-keepers .

Eleven are bankers and brokers . Eighteen are engineers . One hundred and seven are clerks and accountants . Seventy-five follow various other avocations .

MASONIC DEGREES . I trust my Masonry has taught me better than to retort upon " Ebor" in the scurrilous manner he has abused me . In the words of a disciple of Confucius , " Benevolence is the heart , and justice the way ; it is tho duty of a student to seek his lost heart . " Does " Ebor " believe that Masons are so deficient in

reasoning poivers , that his ipse dixit will convince them that the Entered Apprentice and Felloiv Craft degrees of the very impartial papers of Bro . D . M . Lyon are identical with our present Masonic degrees . What has Bro . Lyon proved ? Anything beyond the identity of bis system Avith that of the Constitutions supposed to have been used by our oivn operative lodges to those Avith

their recent admission of a Master ' s degree into this system ? So far as has yet been proved , we have operative Masonry : — -1 st . The Entering Apprentices as detailed in those Constitutions . 2 nd . A Fellow of Craft degree conferring a mark . Against the mystical Masonry of the Essenes , the Templars of the Middle Ages , the Eosicruciansand the Persian sectsviz : ¦—1 st . Our

; , . present Apprentice degree , including certain operative symbolism . 2 nd . The third degree , considered by the Essenes as a type of the lion of the tribe of Judah—a mystery evidently identical with that of the corrupt worshippers of the Sun , Avho , when they had lamented , we

areinformed , over an image of Osiris , on a symbolical revival , exclaimed , " Trust ye in God , for out of pain . sal-Tation is come unto us . " If "Ebor" is sincerely desirous of benefitting his OAVH rite , let him put together proof that the Felloiv Craft degree of the operative rite was a similar ceremony to our present third degree ; for I admit there is something to make us think that such was the

case . Let him also prove , for ive are yet entirely deficient in such proof , that there could be any Freemasonic builders before 1100 or 1200 , up to which period the monks are supposed to have erected their own churches ; and here again he has the advantage of the fact that Hiram ( not Hiram Ah iff , for ho was ' not so styled until after 1726 ) , has superseded a before-mentioned Jeivish type .

When he proves these things a most ample retractation shall be forthcoming from " A , " AVIIO will hail with sincere pleasure the labours of "Ebor , " and forget his abuse . The whole question betAveen us narroAvs itself into this : — Is " Ebor , " his disciples , or the founders of his school , to bo alloived to dictate to us ( ivhat they cannot possibly have any proper or legitimate knoivledge of ) , what is

Masonry and what is not Masonry ? Is all Masonic inquiry to be debarred from us of which they do not approve ? Let us knoiv this , so that we may know what course to adopt . To my brethren , Craft or High Grade , I say , read carefully all that has appeared since 1717 ; judge for yourselves ; and henceforth , unassailed , I assail none . —A . KNIGHTS Ol ? DEATH . This degree is conferred in Scotland in connection with the Early Grand Encampment of Knights Templars , the

chief sect of which is in Ayrshire . Before one can be received as a " Knight of Death , " he must have been admitted into the Priestly Order , between which and the Knights of Death there are seven other degrees , viz ., "Jacob ' s Wrestle , " "White Cross , " "Black Cross , " " Eoyal Mariner , " "Master Architect , " "The Mother World , " and "Knights of Patmos . " The degree in

question can be given by one to another , and has words , grips , and signs attached to it . " B . " can also be admitted into the " unrecognised Order of High Priesthood " thi-ougb the Early Grand Encampment , who practise it under the name of " The White Band , " which degree can only be given in presence of seven Knight Templars . It follows tbe "Princely Order of Eed Cross . " —D . MURRAY LYON .

HIGH PRIESTHOOD . " B . * * * * " is informed that the degree be mentions has , from time immemorial , been conferred in Lancashire , and is yet given at Eochdale , but mixed up with degrees with which it is probably unconnected . As they HOAV require candidates to be Knight Templars , and to take the Eed Cross of Babylon along with the Priesthood degree

, I may observe that by old Templar rules a Knight Companion could not be a Priest , or a Priest a Knight ; yet Grand Priors and Masters , having the power of absolving , must have been both , so that one form of tbe degree may have been the installation ceremony of E . C . A Manchester Encampment is in possession of a Bible with the following inscription , " Fox Lodge , Manchester ,

No . 99 , " surrounded Avith Masonic emblems . On the fly-leaf , "The gift of Bro . William Jennings to the Fox Lodge , A . B . 1768 ; " on the following page , "This Bible formerly belonged to the Lodge of Fortitude , No . 87 , and for the future is ordered that it shall belong to the Tabernacle of tbe Priestly Order , for tbe use of tbe same and the first pillar . " A member of the

encampment , some time ago , promised tbe writer a copy of the certificate of the degree , which , if received , should have been sent to " B . * * * * . " The other degree inquired about will be one mentioned by Dr . Oliver as the " Kadosb Prince of Death . " In connection with ancient Masonry it is unfortunate that , in Lancashire , no minutes of the High Grades were ever kept . The jewel of the Priestly degree is said to be a cross and serpent .

—A-HIGH PRIESTHOOD . In ansAver , your correspondent "B . * * * * , " by coming to ( that remote and out of the way place ) the Masonic Hall , Todmorden , he can be consecrated and made a Sir Knight Priest of the Holy Band of Brotherhood ( No . 3 ) . —JOSEPH GREENAVOOD , P . High Priest . THE TEMPLE AT PARIS .

Eeeently , reading Bro . Laniartine ' s " Pictures of the First French Revolution , " there is the folloiving description of the temple at Paris—since , I believe , pulled down : — " The Temple ivas a gloomy and antique fortress , built by the monastic Order of the Templars at a time when these sacerdotal and military theocraciesuniting against

, princes and tyrannising over the people , built strong castles for their monasteries , ancl marched to dominion with the double power of the sword and tbe cross . After their fall , the fortified dwelling they had constructed remained standing , as a relic of the olden time , neglected and forgotten by the present . The chateau of the Temple , which was situated near tbe Faubourg St .

Antoine , and not far from the Bastile , covered a vast space with its buildings , its palaces , its towers , and gardens , where silence and solitude reigned in the midst of a densely-populated quarter . The principal building was the Priory of the Order , a dilapidated residence which tbe Count d'Artois occasionally occupied , Avhen be came to Paris from Versailles . The apartments contained nothing but a few articles of old fashioned furniture , with some beds and linen for the service of tbe Prince ' s

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CLASSICAL THEOLOG-Y.—LIX. Article 1
STRASBURG CATHEDRAL. Article 1
CONSTITUTION' OF ITALIAN FREEMASONRY. Article 2
ART AND HEALTH AT THE RECENT GHENT CONGRESS. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
CAN A WARDEN INITIATE, &c. Article 9
ON THE CHRISTIANITY OF FREEMASONRY. Article 9
Untitled Article 10
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 11
FREEMASONS' GIRLS' SCHOOL. Article 11
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 11
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
Untitled Article 14
AUSTRALIA. Article 14
INDIA. Article 14
A DITCHER AT LAHORE. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 16
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 16
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 17
Poetry. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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her daughter lodges 1763 persons in the year , of which they are classified thus : — Five hundred and twenty-nine are farmers . Four hundred and thirty-eight are mechanics . Three hundred and tvrelve are merchants , traders , and druggists . Thirty-four are ministers of the gospel .

Twenty-six are attorneys-at-law . Sixty-nine are physicians and dentists . Twenty-five hold county , city , and judiciary offices . Tiventy are teachers of music or schools . ^ Six are editors of newspapers . Sixty-six are railroad men . Twenty-five are hotel-keepers .

Eleven are bankers and brokers . Eighteen are engineers . One hundred and seven are clerks and accountants . Seventy-five follow various other avocations .

MASONIC DEGREES . I trust my Masonry has taught me better than to retort upon " Ebor" in the scurrilous manner he has abused me . In the words of a disciple of Confucius , " Benevolence is the heart , and justice the way ; it is tho duty of a student to seek his lost heart . " Does " Ebor " believe that Masons are so deficient in

reasoning poivers , that his ipse dixit will convince them that the Entered Apprentice and Felloiv Craft degrees of the very impartial papers of Bro . D . M . Lyon are identical with our present Masonic degrees . What has Bro . Lyon proved ? Anything beyond the identity of bis system Avith that of the Constitutions supposed to have been used by our oivn operative lodges to those Avith

their recent admission of a Master ' s degree into this system ? So far as has yet been proved , we have operative Masonry : — -1 st . The Entering Apprentices as detailed in those Constitutions . 2 nd . A Fellow of Craft degree conferring a mark . Against the mystical Masonry of the Essenes , the Templars of the Middle Ages , the Eosicruciansand the Persian sectsviz : ¦—1 st . Our

; , . present Apprentice degree , including certain operative symbolism . 2 nd . The third degree , considered by the Essenes as a type of the lion of the tribe of Judah—a mystery evidently identical with that of the corrupt worshippers of the Sun , Avho , when they had lamented , we

areinformed , over an image of Osiris , on a symbolical revival , exclaimed , " Trust ye in God , for out of pain . sal-Tation is come unto us . " If "Ebor" is sincerely desirous of benefitting his OAVH rite , let him put together proof that the Felloiv Craft degree of the operative rite was a similar ceremony to our present third degree ; for I admit there is something to make us think that such was the

case . Let him also prove , for ive are yet entirely deficient in such proof , that there could be any Freemasonic builders before 1100 or 1200 , up to which period the monks are supposed to have erected their own churches ; and here again he has the advantage of the fact that Hiram ( not Hiram Ah iff , for ho was ' not so styled until after 1726 ) , has superseded a before-mentioned Jeivish type .

When he proves these things a most ample retractation shall be forthcoming from " A , " AVIIO will hail with sincere pleasure the labours of "Ebor , " and forget his abuse . The whole question betAveen us narroAvs itself into this : — Is " Ebor , " his disciples , or the founders of his school , to bo alloived to dictate to us ( ivhat they cannot possibly have any proper or legitimate knoivledge of ) , what is

Masonry and what is not Masonry ? Is all Masonic inquiry to be debarred from us of which they do not approve ? Let us knoiv this , so that we may know what course to adopt . To my brethren , Craft or High Grade , I say , read carefully all that has appeared since 1717 ; judge for yourselves ; and henceforth , unassailed , I assail none . —A . KNIGHTS Ol ? DEATH . This degree is conferred in Scotland in connection with the Early Grand Encampment of Knights Templars , the

chief sect of which is in Ayrshire . Before one can be received as a " Knight of Death , " he must have been admitted into the Priestly Order , between which and the Knights of Death there are seven other degrees , viz ., "Jacob ' s Wrestle , " "White Cross , " "Black Cross , " " Eoyal Mariner , " "Master Architect , " "The Mother World , " and "Knights of Patmos . " The degree in

question can be given by one to another , and has words , grips , and signs attached to it . " B . " can also be admitted into the " unrecognised Order of High Priesthood " thi-ougb the Early Grand Encampment , who practise it under the name of " The White Band , " which degree can only be given in presence of seven Knight Templars . It follows tbe "Princely Order of Eed Cross . " —D . MURRAY LYON .

HIGH PRIESTHOOD . " B . * * * * " is informed that the degree be mentions has , from time immemorial , been conferred in Lancashire , and is yet given at Eochdale , but mixed up with degrees with which it is probably unconnected . As they HOAV require candidates to be Knight Templars , and to take the Eed Cross of Babylon along with the Priesthood degree

, I may observe that by old Templar rules a Knight Companion could not be a Priest , or a Priest a Knight ; yet Grand Priors and Masters , having the power of absolving , must have been both , so that one form of tbe degree may have been the installation ceremony of E . C . A Manchester Encampment is in possession of a Bible with the following inscription , " Fox Lodge , Manchester ,

No . 99 , " surrounded Avith Masonic emblems . On the fly-leaf , "The gift of Bro . William Jennings to the Fox Lodge , A . B . 1768 ; " on the following page , "This Bible formerly belonged to the Lodge of Fortitude , No . 87 , and for the future is ordered that it shall belong to the Tabernacle of tbe Priestly Order , for tbe use of tbe same and the first pillar . " A member of the

encampment , some time ago , promised tbe writer a copy of the certificate of the degree , which , if received , should have been sent to " B . * * * * . " The other degree inquired about will be one mentioned by Dr . Oliver as the " Kadosb Prince of Death . " In connection with ancient Masonry it is unfortunate that , in Lancashire , no minutes of the High Grades were ever kept . The jewel of the Priestly degree is said to be a cross and serpent .

—A-HIGH PRIESTHOOD . In ansAver , your correspondent "B . * * * * , " by coming to ( that remote and out of the way place ) the Masonic Hall , Todmorden , he can be consecrated and made a Sir Knight Priest of the Holy Band of Brotherhood ( No . 3 ) . —JOSEPH GREENAVOOD , P . High Priest . THE TEMPLE AT PARIS .

Eeeently , reading Bro . Laniartine ' s " Pictures of the First French Revolution , " there is the folloiving description of the temple at Paris—since , I believe , pulled down : — " The Temple ivas a gloomy and antique fortress , built by the monastic Order of the Templars at a time when these sacerdotal and military theocraciesuniting against

, princes and tyrannising over the people , built strong castles for their monasteries , ancl marched to dominion with the double power of the sword and tbe cross . After their fall , the fortified dwelling they had constructed remained standing , as a relic of the olden time , neglected and forgotten by the present . The chateau of the Temple , which was situated near tbe Faubourg St .

Antoine , and not far from the Bastile , covered a vast space with its buildings , its palaces , its towers , and gardens , where silence and solitude reigned in the midst of a densely-populated quarter . The principal building was the Priory of the Order , a dilapidated residence which tbe Count d'Artois occasionally occupied , Avhen be came to Paris from Versailles . The apartments contained nothing but a few articles of old fashioned furniture , with some beds and linen for the service of tbe Prince ' s

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