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Masonic Notes And Queries.

SOLOMONS TEMPLE . Apropos to the remarks in the Magazine in connexion with Solomon's Temple , I would call attention to a remarkable circumstance mentioned by Josephus at book 8 , chap . 3 . sec . 2 , viz ., —that above the temple there was another story , which seems to have been of woodthis

; upper room or Talar may have been for the use of the king when he desired to view the temple ceremonies apart from the people . Josephus says— " Its ( the temple ' s ) height was 60 cubits , and its length was the same and its breadth 20 . There was another building erected over it , equal to it in its

measures , so that the entire altitude of the temple was 120 cubits . " The entrance to this upper room seems to have been hy a private side door , as it is said— " The king also had a fine contrivance for an ascent to the upper room over the temple , and that was by steps in the thickness of its wall ; for it had no large door on the east end as the lower house had ,

but the entrances were by the sides , through very small doors . " Again , at book 15 , cbap . li , sec . 1 , the height of the Temple of Solomon is alluded to as being 120 cubits , while Zerubbahel ' s was only 60 cubits high . In " Jerusalem Explored , " by Pierotti ( vol . 1 , 61 he

p . ) says : — "It was to be 60 cubits broad and 60 high j but these dimensions cannot be relied on , because we are told that the new edifice ( Zerubbahel ' s ) was not in any respect equal to the former . " ' This shows that Pierotti was not aware of the existence of the Talar above the temple , which made up the heiht to 120 cubits

g . _ Solomon ' s Temple , therefore , with its wings ( or side-chambers ) would bear some resemblance to an Assyrian palace . This upper room over the temple must not be confounded with the middle chamber of the wings , the entrance to which was also bv the side ( I . Kings , 6 chap . S verse ) . —W . P . BUCHAN .

BED CEOSS OE CONSTANTINE . I watch with interest each announcement of this new and flourishing enterprise , as it ranidlv exhibits the Last New Thing in Masonry . This time , all I can make out is that they have become " Chevaliers , " and . that this did not prevent them from spending a most leasant

p evening together in the banqueting hall . Still , I do not understand the exact advantage of being a Chevalier , or what kind of a Chevalier it is . I shall wait to see what kind of a thing the " Chevaliers ' ' will turn into . So far as I have followed they are the chrysalis state of Prince Masons . Chevaliers

As " ' ' they are not deprived of the right of being " Sir Knights . " Most of the " Chevaliers '' have already been made " Sovereigns . " The dignity of Inspector-General for Suffolk , I am not quite sure whether I have seen before . There was only one Inspector-General for several Sovereigns at the Richmond meeting , but there may be plenty of others outside . —A . & A .

POSITION OE THE TWO PILLAES . Josephus " ( book 8 , chap . 3 ) says : — "The left side of the Temple , which was that side towards the north wind . " Consequently , the pillar Jachin , on the right hand , was on the south side of the Temple ; while Boaz , the left hand pillar , was on the north . — W . P . B .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

VALUE OE THE EEEEHASONS' MAGAZINE . "While agreeing as to the pecuniary value of the Freemasons'' Magcaine , in the case of Masonic cadgers , I believe it has a pecuniary value in other ways . If it had not been for the discussions in the Magazine about principles and forms , which have revived my interest

, myself and many others would have retired . In the copy of the FlL , taken by the lodge we see new subjects of interest in the ceremonies and general proceedings of the Order , and new topics of conversation among ourselves . —SALOPIENSIS . GLASGOW CATHEDEAL ( page 268 ) .

The lines which Bro . A . Oneal Haye quotes are not on any stone belonging to " Jocelin ' s Crypt ;" although he may have seen them on a detached stone lying there , which stone formed part of the wall of the staircase of the consistory house which formerly stood at the south-west corner of the cathedral .

There was a sun-dial there , and the " lines " were under it . I am indebted to Mr . A . D . Eobinson for the above information . Bro . Haye says— " Jocelin ' s Crypt . " I would be inclined to say " Bondington ' s Crypt . " Jocelin died A . D . 1199 . Bondington was Bishop from 1233 to

1258 . Did Bro . Haye observe a semi-iSTorman or transitional pillar near south-west comer of Crypt ? It is believed to be a remnant of Jocelin's building . The man best qualified to give ( in my belief ) a history of Glasgow Cathedral is Mr . A . D .

Robertson , if he would do it ,- and he is the only one I know of who could give proper drawings explanations , & c , of the old coats of arms on the vaults . If the dates of the different portions of Glasgow Cathedral were properly settled , it would be a guide for other fabrics in Scotland .

I join heartily with those who condemn the act of Vandalism which deprived Glasgow Cathedral of its western towers . Valuable landmarks were then igno ¦ : rantly destroyed . — "W " . P . BUCHAN . HOLTEOOD CHAPEL . One of the tomb slabs has an ornamental cross ,

the stalk of which passes through an elegantly-formed chalice . Does this refer to salvation being won by the blood of Christ , and is this emblem found any other place ? The stone is broken at the base , and no part of the inscription is legible , but it may have belonged to some clergyman , typifying also his raising the chalice in the Communion . —A . ONEAL HATE .

THE EEEEMASONS . Where is R . Y . when he is quietly allowing Circle at page 229 , and Bro . Harris at page 268 , to make statements which tend to support my article ( at page 90 , August 1 st ) on the origin of the term " Freemason ? " Since I planted my views there has been a breeze or two , but , instead of being blown down ,

they look as if they were taking firmer root . The last blow , therefore , not being strong enough , suppose R . Y . tries the effect of some of the " facts " he knows about , and if he can raise a hurricane sufficient to blow my ideas anent this subject out of existence , I will confess—serve him right . — "W . P . BUCHAN . P . S . —At page 90 , August 1 , for " freedom of ilieiv country , " read "freedom of the country , " in third line from foot of page .

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AN ANALYSIS OF ANCIENT AND MODERN FREEMASONRY. Article 1
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 5
Untitled Article 8
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
THE CRAFT IN INDIA. Article 12
THE MASONIC INSURANCE COMPANY. Article 12
D.P.G.M. Article 13
MARK MASONRY IN THE PROVINCES. Article 13
MASONIC RELIEF IN THE PROVINCES. Article 13
PRESTONIAN LECTURES. Article 15
ANOTHER MASONIC IMPOSTOR. Article 15
THE PRINCE OF WALES AND FREEMASONRY. Article 15
A SUGGESTION. Article 15
MASONIC MEMS. Article 16
METROPOLITAN. Article 16
PROVINCIAL. Article 17
SCOTLAND. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 19
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
MONODY Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING OCTOBER 17TH, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

SOLOMONS TEMPLE . Apropos to the remarks in the Magazine in connexion with Solomon's Temple , I would call attention to a remarkable circumstance mentioned by Josephus at book 8 , chap . 3 . sec . 2 , viz ., —that above the temple there was another story , which seems to have been of woodthis

; upper room or Talar may have been for the use of the king when he desired to view the temple ceremonies apart from the people . Josephus says— " Its ( the temple ' s ) height was 60 cubits , and its length was the same and its breadth 20 . There was another building erected over it , equal to it in its

measures , so that the entire altitude of the temple was 120 cubits . " The entrance to this upper room seems to have been hy a private side door , as it is said— " The king also had a fine contrivance for an ascent to the upper room over the temple , and that was by steps in the thickness of its wall ; for it had no large door on the east end as the lower house had ,

but the entrances were by the sides , through very small doors . " Again , at book 15 , cbap . li , sec . 1 , the height of the Temple of Solomon is alluded to as being 120 cubits , while Zerubbahel ' s was only 60 cubits high . In " Jerusalem Explored , " by Pierotti ( vol . 1 , 61 he

p . ) says : — "It was to be 60 cubits broad and 60 high j but these dimensions cannot be relied on , because we are told that the new edifice ( Zerubbahel ' s ) was not in any respect equal to the former . " ' This shows that Pierotti was not aware of the existence of the Talar above the temple , which made up the heiht to 120 cubits

g . _ Solomon ' s Temple , therefore , with its wings ( or side-chambers ) would bear some resemblance to an Assyrian palace . This upper room over the temple must not be confounded with the middle chamber of the wings , the entrance to which was also bv the side ( I . Kings , 6 chap . S verse ) . —W . P . BUCHAN .

BED CEOSS OE CONSTANTINE . I watch with interest each announcement of this new and flourishing enterprise , as it ranidlv exhibits the Last New Thing in Masonry . This time , all I can make out is that they have become " Chevaliers , " and . that this did not prevent them from spending a most leasant

p evening together in the banqueting hall . Still , I do not understand the exact advantage of being a Chevalier , or what kind of a Chevalier it is . I shall wait to see what kind of a thing the " Chevaliers ' ' will turn into . So far as I have followed they are the chrysalis state of Prince Masons . Chevaliers

As " ' ' they are not deprived of the right of being " Sir Knights . " Most of the " Chevaliers '' have already been made " Sovereigns . " The dignity of Inspector-General for Suffolk , I am not quite sure whether I have seen before . There was only one Inspector-General for several Sovereigns at the Richmond meeting , but there may be plenty of others outside . —A . & A .

POSITION OE THE TWO PILLAES . Josephus " ( book 8 , chap . 3 ) says : — "The left side of the Temple , which was that side towards the north wind . " Consequently , the pillar Jachin , on the right hand , was on the south side of the Temple ; while Boaz , the left hand pillar , was on the north . — W . P . B .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

VALUE OE THE EEEEHASONS' MAGAZINE . "While agreeing as to the pecuniary value of the Freemasons'' Magcaine , in the case of Masonic cadgers , I believe it has a pecuniary value in other ways . If it had not been for the discussions in the Magazine about principles and forms , which have revived my interest

, myself and many others would have retired . In the copy of the FlL , taken by the lodge we see new subjects of interest in the ceremonies and general proceedings of the Order , and new topics of conversation among ourselves . —SALOPIENSIS . GLASGOW CATHEDEAL ( page 268 ) .

The lines which Bro . A . Oneal Haye quotes are not on any stone belonging to " Jocelin ' s Crypt ;" although he may have seen them on a detached stone lying there , which stone formed part of the wall of the staircase of the consistory house which formerly stood at the south-west corner of the cathedral .

There was a sun-dial there , and the " lines " were under it . I am indebted to Mr . A . D . Eobinson for the above information . Bro . Haye says— " Jocelin ' s Crypt . " I would be inclined to say " Bondington ' s Crypt . " Jocelin died A . D . 1199 . Bondington was Bishop from 1233 to

1258 . Did Bro . Haye observe a semi-iSTorman or transitional pillar near south-west comer of Crypt ? It is believed to be a remnant of Jocelin's building . The man best qualified to give ( in my belief ) a history of Glasgow Cathedral is Mr . A . D .

Robertson , if he would do it ,- and he is the only one I know of who could give proper drawings explanations , & c , of the old coats of arms on the vaults . If the dates of the different portions of Glasgow Cathedral were properly settled , it would be a guide for other fabrics in Scotland .

I join heartily with those who condemn the act of Vandalism which deprived Glasgow Cathedral of its western towers . Valuable landmarks were then igno ¦ : rantly destroyed . — "W " . P . BUCHAN . HOLTEOOD CHAPEL . One of the tomb slabs has an ornamental cross ,

the stalk of which passes through an elegantly-formed chalice . Does this refer to salvation being won by the blood of Christ , and is this emblem found any other place ? The stone is broken at the base , and no part of the inscription is legible , but it may have belonged to some clergyman , typifying also his raising the chalice in the Communion . —A . ONEAL HATE .

THE EEEEMASONS . Where is R . Y . when he is quietly allowing Circle at page 229 , and Bro . Harris at page 268 , to make statements which tend to support my article ( at page 90 , August 1 st ) on the origin of the term " Freemason ? " Since I planted my views there has been a breeze or two , but , instead of being blown down ,

they look as if they were taking firmer root . The last blow , therefore , not being strong enough , suppose R . Y . tries the effect of some of the " facts " he knows about , and if he can raise a hurricane sufficient to blow my ideas anent this subject out of existence , I will confess—serve him right . — "W . P . BUCHAN . P . S . —At page 90 , August 1 , for " freedom of ilieiv country , " read "freedom of the country , " in third line from foot of page .

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