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Masonic Notes And Queries.

THE COEINTHIAN OEDEB . Our late Bro . Hay was an authority , as , for example , on the theory of colour and on the relations of the laws of colour and sound . He was a writer of merit and ingenuity , but cannot be treated as an original authority about Callimachus and the

Corinthian Order . It is strange that one of Bro . Oneal Haye ' s attainments should never before have heard a doubt as to this legend . —R . Y .

MOTTO . Desire to know , because you love the truth . Dispense that knowledge , because vou love your fellowmen—TV . P . B . PICTUS DEPICTUS ( page 268 ) . In answer to C . M . D . —There is far more harm

in talking about the jive Orders of Architecture than the three in connexion with Solomon , because the Romans did not exist until long after Solomon , while the Greeks existed before him ; and also because the date of the origination of the three Orders is not exactly known , which leaves room for speculationand we are speculative Masons . 3 ? or historical data C . M . D . may examine my other communications . — Picius .

EOSICEUCIANS AND THE SCIENCE OE MONEY-MAKING The announcement of the solid progress of the Rosicrucian Society is a matter of great moment during the present monetary crisis , and not less than the discovery of gold in South Africa . The grand of the ancient Society of Rosicrucians has

purpose been , during many ages , the making of gold from the baser metals , and also of making gold fluid , current and potable . "What we now greatly want is for the gold to be made current and more serviceable . On the Sth , with the publication of this number , twelve Aspirants or Breathers will be admitted to the grade

of Zelator , or Blower . Thus the bellows and furnaces of the society will now be in full blast . A matter not less important than this is announced . Although the furnace and the bellows and the blowers are essential , no gold can be made without money ; and I am therefore glad to learn that the youthful

nobleman , the Earl of Jersey , heir to Child ' s bankinghouse , has consented to devote part of his newlyinherited patrimony to this philanthropic institution . Although the Rosicrucian Society had no connexion with Masonry , I beg to suggest that , after relieving the present public distress , it should cast a few ingots ¦ of gold to pay off the mortgage debt of the Bovs ' School . —E . H .

SCOTCH ( pages 251 & 26 S ) . "In England we say Scotch and Scotchmen . ' The expression is both vulgar and incorrect . Many of our best writers , if compelled to use the word "Scotch , " do so within brackets , to show it is a quotation . While , at same time , they use the words

Scottish , Scots , & c , freely . To Scotch to cut , a Scotch a cut . Burns says , — " Scots , wha hae \ vi' Wallace bled . " Suppose we improve that by saying , — " Scotch wha hae , & c . " —W . P . B .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , MASONIC IMPOSTORS .

Z " , TO THE EDITOE 01 ! THE ESEE 5 IASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBBOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I see in the Magazine there are some letters respecting an impostor named Siegmund Sax , a German . He called on me a fortnight ago with the same tale , that his allowance of 15 s . per day was insufficient to meet his expenses ,

and he wanted a loan of £ 4 or £ 5 to pay his expenses home to Hamburgh . I declined lending him it myself , but referred him to the Treasurer . He never went . He is about 5 ft . 6 in . or 7 in . height ; black hair , very curly , and worn short ; has a beard and moustachealso black . He left me his cardwhich I

, , send to you . Yours fraternally , THOMAS HUGHES ( W . M . Adams ' s Lodge , 158 . ) Sheerness .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE EBEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC JIIKEOK . Dear Sir and Brother , —In the two last issues of your Magazine I observed several letters from brethren in various parts of the country who had been victimized by a plausible young German—Seigmund Sax . Allow me to add another instance in which he

was successful in obtaining the sum of £ 5 from a kind-hearted brother , who is an officer of the lodge of which I am the W . M . This occurred about two months ago , when he made precisely the same statement , viz ., that he was travelling for a continental firmand his allowance of 15 s . per day was insufficient

, to meet his necessary expenses , in proof of which he produced several hotel bills . He asked for , and obtained , the sum of £ 5 , stating that he would forward the amount as soon as he reached Hamburgh , and also a box of prime cigars as a present . His offer to leave his watch and rings as a security till he

returned the money was accepted . They were accordingly placed in a small box , which he carefully wrapped up and sealed , and then put his address on the cover . Of course nothing more was heard of Mr . Sax until his name figured so conspicuously in your columns . A few days ago the sealed box was opened

in my presence ; it contained a silver watch and two rings , and their outside value was from 40 s . to 45 s . On this occasion he could not produce a certificate , and it is probable that some brother whom he has duped , or to whom he made a similar application , may have detained it . Yours fraternally , W . M ., No . 1 , 036 .

TO THE EDITOE OP THE EBEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC HIEEOn , Dear Sir and Brother , —Your Masonic Mirror of the 19 th inst . contains some letters referring to the doings of a German of the name of Seigmund Sax , allow me to say this very same persons called on me in May last and told me a similar tale to that

mentioned by your correspondent , W . M ., Lodge No . 299 . He entreated of me to lend him the sum of £ 4 , at the same time offering to leave some jewellery to cover the amount . Por some time I declined having any-

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MARK MASONRY IN THE PROVINCES. Article 13
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PRESTONIAN LECTURES. Article 15
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PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
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METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING OCTOBER 17TH, 1868. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

THE COEINTHIAN OEDEB . Our late Bro . Hay was an authority , as , for example , on the theory of colour and on the relations of the laws of colour and sound . He was a writer of merit and ingenuity , but cannot be treated as an original authority about Callimachus and the

Corinthian Order . It is strange that one of Bro . Oneal Haye ' s attainments should never before have heard a doubt as to this legend . —R . Y .

MOTTO . Desire to know , because you love the truth . Dispense that knowledge , because vou love your fellowmen—TV . P . B . PICTUS DEPICTUS ( page 268 ) . In answer to C . M . D . —There is far more harm

in talking about the jive Orders of Architecture than the three in connexion with Solomon , because the Romans did not exist until long after Solomon , while the Greeks existed before him ; and also because the date of the origination of the three Orders is not exactly known , which leaves room for speculationand we are speculative Masons . 3 ? or historical data C . M . D . may examine my other communications . — Picius .

EOSICEUCIANS AND THE SCIENCE OE MONEY-MAKING The announcement of the solid progress of the Rosicrucian Society is a matter of great moment during the present monetary crisis , and not less than the discovery of gold in South Africa . The grand of the ancient Society of Rosicrucians has

purpose been , during many ages , the making of gold from the baser metals , and also of making gold fluid , current and potable . "What we now greatly want is for the gold to be made current and more serviceable . On the Sth , with the publication of this number , twelve Aspirants or Breathers will be admitted to the grade

of Zelator , or Blower . Thus the bellows and furnaces of the society will now be in full blast . A matter not less important than this is announced . Although the furnace and the bellows and the blowers are essential , no gold can be made without money ; and I am therefore glad to learn that the youthful

nobleman , the Earl of Jersey , heir to Child ' s bankinghouse , has consented to devote part of his newlyinherited patrimony to this philanthropic institution . Although the Rosicrucian Society had no connexion with Masonry , I beg to suggest that , after relieving the present public distress , it should cast a few ingots ¦ of gold to pay off the mortgage debt of the Bovs ' School . —E . H .

SCOTCH ( pages 251 & 26 S ) . "In England we say Scotch and Scotchmen . ' The expression is both vulgar and incorrect . Many of our best writers , if compelled to use the word "Scotch , " do so within brackets , to show it is a quotation . While , at same time , they use the words

Scottish , Scots , & c , freely . To Scotch to cut , a Scotch a cut . Burns says , — " Scots , wha hae \ vi' Wallace bled . " Suppose we improve that by saying , — " Scotch wha hae , & c . " —W . P . B .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor in not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , MASONIC IMPOSTORS .

Z " , TO THE EDITOE 01 ! THE ESEE 5 IASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBBOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I see in the Magazine there are some letters respecting an impostor named Siegmund Sax , a German . He called on me a fortnight ago with the same tale , that his allowance of 15 s . per day was insufficient to meet his expenses ,

and he wanted a loan of £ 4 or £ 5 to pay his expenses home to Hamburgh . I declined lending him it myself , but referred him to the Treasurer . He never went . He is about 5 ft . 6 in . or 7 in . height ; black hair , very curly , and worn short ; has a beard and moustachealso black . He left me his cardwhich I

, , send to you . Yours fraternally , THOMAS HUGHES ( W . M . Adams ' s Lodge , 158 . ) Sheerness .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE EBEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC JIIKEOK . Dear Sir and Brother , —In the two last issues of your Magazine I observed several letters from brethren in various parts of the country who had been victimized by a plausible young German—Seigmund Sax . Allow me to add another instance in which he

was successful in obtaining the sum of £ 5 from a kind-hearted brother , who is an officer of the lodge of which I am the W . M . This occurred about two months ago , when he made precisely the same statement , viz ., that he was travelling for a continental firmand his allowance of 15 s . per day was insufficient

, to meet his necessary expenses , in proof of which he produced several hotel bills . He asked for , and obtained , the sum of £ 5 , stating that he would forward the amount as soon as he reached Hamburgh , and also a box of prime cigars as a present . His offer to leave his watch and rings as a security till he

returned the money was accepted . They were accordingly placed in a small box , which he carefully wrapped up and sealed , and then put his address on the cover . Of course nothing more was heard of Mr . Sax until his name figured so conspicuously in your columns . A few days ago the sealed box was opened

in my presence ; it contained a silver watch and two rings , and their outside value was from 40 s . to 45 s . On this occasion he could not produce a certificate , and it is probable that some brother whom he has duped , or to whom he made a similar application , may have detained it . Yours fraternally , W . M ., No . 1 , 036 .

TO THE EDITOE OP THE EBEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC HIEEOn , Dear Sir and Brother , —Your Masonic Mirror of the 19 th inst . contains some letters referring to the doings of a German of the name of Seigmund Sax , allow me to say this very same persons called on me in May last and told me a similar tale to that

mentioned by your correspondent , W . M ., Lodge No . 299 . He entreated of me to lend him the sum of £ 4 , at the same time offering to leave some jewellery to cover the amount . Por some time I declined having any-

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