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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

MYTHS AND THE " IEEEMASON ' S MAGAZINE . " Bro . J . H . M ., my answer to your inquiry upon this subject is as follows : —Editors of the present series of our periodical hare hitherto looked upon our myths in the light in which our craft ancestors were accustomed to view themand occasonally they have

, selected myths related by the best American writers , and inserted them in our columns , whence I have known them transferred to works not Masonic , for myths well told are popular and instructive reading . * * * If you meet with a myth in a new and fitting dresswhether coming from a British or an

Ame-, rican loom , fail not to send it to Salisbury-street , duly directed . —0 . P . COOPEB . TAN EXHIBITIONS . In the exhibition of fans at South Kensington , there is a " mount'' of about 1740 in a handsomely

, gilt frame , decorated in two corners with emblems of the arts and sciences . The group to the right deserves attention , as suspiciously like the work of a Mason „—W . W .

PROCESSIONS . Will any brother oblige me with the correct form of procedure in a Masonic procession . I was present at one at Manchester the other day , when , to my Surprise , the Wardens' columns were borne before them by two young lads , sons of Masons . Is this usual , or is it an innovation . —QUEEIST .

LODGES AT SrEASBUEG , VIENNA , COLOGNE , AND BEENE , A . D . 1459 . Dear Brother * * * , the EXTRACT of the Constitution of the German Masons of Strasburg , A . D . 1459 , in the appendix to Bro . Findel ' s History , does not contain the passage respecting the lodges at

Strasburg , Yienna , Cologne , and Berne after which you inquire ; you must turn to our invaluable periodical . You will find in the Freemason's Mar / azine , May 1 G , 1863 , "The Constitutions of the Masons of Strasburg " — " From the German in Bro . Findel ' s History of Freemasonrytranslatedwith permission of the

au-, , thor , by G . M . " * Bro . Findel ' s Avork did not appear amongst us in its English dress until 1866 . In C . M . ' s translation of the Constitutions you will find the passage touching the four lodges . In one of my Masonic cartons there is an abstract of the passage in the handwriting of a Brothernow a missionary in India .

, It contains some curious remarks upon the districts belonging to Strasburg , Yienna , Cologne , and Berne . See my communication , " Grand Lodges of Germany in the 15 th Century , " page 349 of the present volume . —C . P . COOPER .

EEEEMASONRT AND FOUNDATION STONES . At the laying of a foundation stone near Manchester on the 4 th inst ., the presiding officer , Bro . W . E . Callender , jun ., D . Prov . G . M- of East Lancashire and S . G . D . of England , among other remarks ured the following : — " They Avere met there that day , so far as the Masons were concerned , as a body , not as members of tbe Church of England , though many of them

Masonic Notes And Queries.

were members of that Church , but because they recognised the necessity for supporting , beyond any sect or creed , that Christian religion which was scattered over the whole world . " ( Vide Manchester Courier , 6 th June . ) Will any better informed brother tell me if this is in accordance Avith tbe teachings of

Freemasonry as generally understood , as I am ignorant enough to have been always under the impression that our Order was sufficiently liberal and comprehensive to embrace and include every creed and belief . If I have been mistaken , I , as a member of the Hebrew faith , must object , as I cannot conscientiously recognise the tbe necessity above mentioned by Bro . Oalleader . — ALEPH .

BBO . JOHN YABKER . To a London Correspondent I say , do as Bro . John Yarker does , " Write to elicit truth , utterly regardless of popularity . "—0 . P . COOPER . A C 0 NTE 0 VEETER . The veterans of the readildiscover and

carepress y fully avoid a controverter , with whom it will not be possible to engage in literary discussion , Avithout experiencing some breach of what society deems the decorous . Such a controverter , therefore , as respects the veterans of the press , goes unanswered . —A PAST PROVINCIAL GRAND MASTER .

TOIIEEANOE AND INTOLEBANCE . "We learn from the Greek newspaper Loc / os , printed at Athens on the 16 fch ( 28 th ) May last , that the Eoman Catholics of the Island of Syra have been much exasperated against the Archbishop of Syra , Tenos , and Melos Lycurgus ( whose visit to England has given

so much satisfaction to all concerned ) , together Avith his clergy , on account of their having officiated at the burial of Bro . Botzaris Cras , a Royal Arch Mason , who died on the 8 th ( 20 th ) May last , aged 27 years , at Syra , and was interred , with the Masonic insignia of his rank exposed on his coffin , This is another instance , if any were needed , of the superior liberality of the Greek Church to that of the Latin . —J . X .

l . VEING FOUNDATION STONES . How can non-operative English lodges of Freemasons support their pretensions so as to lay foundation stones of neAVbuildings?—COMMON SENSE .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents ROYAL ARK MARINERS ASfD GRAND MARK LODGE .

10 THE EDlIOll OF THE IBEEMASOMs' MAGAZINE AITD HiSOUIC 3 IIM 10 B . Dear Sir and Brother , —As I have not seen any notice of meeting of Eoyal Ark Mariners , and as you state that you will give the meeting of Grand Mark Lodge next week , and as a long discussion ensued as to the propriety of working the degrees of Ark , Link ,

and Wrestle , being present myself on the occasion , I think it right that it should be known that in answer to a question by Bro . Joshua Nunn , P . G . D ., the M . W . G . M . stated that he did not propose to interfere with the jurisdiction of the Eoyal Ark Mariners , and that there was no objection to anyone who liked taking that degree . I mention this , as I believe souAe doubts

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MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 23. Article 6
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LAYING THE FOUNDATION STONE OF ALBERT BRIDGE, GLASGOW. Article 14
LAYING THE FOUNDATION STONE OF THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY INNOCENTS, FALLOWFIELD, EAST LANCASHIRE. Article 17
Poetry. Article 19
REVIEWS. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, .&c, FOR WEEK, ENDING 18TH, JUNE 1870. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

MYTHS AND THE " IEEEMASON ' S MAGAZINE . " Bro . J . H . M ., my answer to your inquiry upon this subject is as follows : —Editors of the present series of our periodical hare hitherto looked upon our myths in the light in which our craft ancestors were accustomed to view themand occasonally they have

, selected myths related by the best American writers , and inserted them in our columns , whence I have known them transferred to works not Masonic , for myths well told are popular and instructive reading . * * * If you meet with a myth in a new and fitting dresswhether coming from a British or an

Ame-, rican loom , fail not to send it to Salisbury-street , duly directed . —0 . P . COOPEB . TAN EXHIBITIONS . In the exhibition of fans at South Kensington , there is a " mount'' of about 1740 in a handsomely

, gilt frame , decorated in two corners with emblems of the arts and sciences . The group to the right deserves attention , as suspiciously like the work of a Mason „—W . W .

PROCESSIONS . Will any brother oblige me with the correct form of procedure in a Masonic procession . I was present at one at Manchester the other day , when , to my Surprise , the Wardens' columns were borne before them by two young lads , sons of Masons . Is this usual , or is it an innovation . —QUEEIST .

LODGES AT SrEASBUEG , VIENNA , COLOGNE , AND BEENE , A . D . 1459 . Dear Brother * * * , the EXTRACT of the Constitution of the German Masons of Strasburg , A . D . 1459 , in the appendix to Bro . Findel ' s History , does not contain the passage respecting the lodges at

Strasburg , Yienna , Cologne , and Berne after which you inquire ; you must turn to our invaluable periodical . You will find in the Freemason's Mar / azine , May 1 G , 1863 , "The Constitutions of the Masons of Strasburg " — " From the German in Bro . Findel ' s History of Freemasonrytranslatedwith permission of the

au-, , thor , by G . M . " * Bro . Findel ' s Avork did not appear amongst us in its English dress until 1866 . In C . M . ' s translation of the Constitutions you will find the passage touching the four lodges . In one of my Masonic cartons there is an abstract of the passage in the handwriting of a Brothernow a missionary in India .

, It contains some curious remarks upon the districts belonging to Strasburg , Yienna , Cologne , and Berne . See my communication , " Grand Lodges of Germany in the 15 th Century , " page 349 of the present volume . —C . P . COOPER .

EEEEMASONRT AND FOUNDATION STONES . At the laying of a foundation stone near Manchester on the 4 th inst ., the presiding officer , Bro . W . E . Callender , jun ., D . Prov . G . M- of East Lancashire and S . G . D . of England , among other remarks ured the following : — " They Avere met there that day , so far as the Masons were concerned , as a body , not as members of tbe Church of England , though many of them

Masonic Notes And Queries.

were members of that Church , but because they recognised the necessity for supporting , beyond any sect or creed , that Christian religion which was scattered over the whole world . " ( Vide Manchester Courier , 6 th June . ) Will any better informed brother tell me if this is in accordance Avith tbe teachings of

Freemasonry as generally understood , as I am ignorant enough to have been always under the impression that our Order was sufficiently liberal and comprehensive to embrace and include every creed and belief . If I have been mistaken , I , as a member of the Hebrew faith , must object , as I cannot conscientiously recognise the tbe necessity above mentioned by Bro . Oalleader . — ALEPH .

BBO . JOHN YABKER . To a London Correspondent I say , do as Bro . John Yarker does , " Write to elicit truth , utterly regardless of popularity . "—0 . P . COOPER . A C 0 NTE 0 VEETER . The veterans of the readildiscover and

carepress y fully avoid a controverter , with whom it will not be possible to engage in literary discussion , Avithout experiencing some breach of what society deems the decorous . Such a controverter , therefore , as respects the veterans of the press , goes unanswered . —A PAST PROVINCIAL GRAND MASTER .

TOIIEEANOE AND INTOLEBANCE . "We learn from the Greek newspaper Loc / os , printed at Athens on the 16 fch ( 28 th ) May last , that the Eoman Catholics of the Island of Syra have been much exasperated against the Archbishop of Syra , Tenos , and Melos Lycurgus ( whose visit to England has given

so much satisfaction to all concerned ) , together Avith his clergy , on account of their having officiated at the burial of Bro . Botzaris Cras , a Royal Arch Mason , who died on the 8 th ( 20 th ) May last , aged 27 years , at Syra , and was interred , with the Masonic insignia of his rank exposed on his coffin , This is another instance , if any were needed , of the superior liberality of the Greek Church to that of the Latin . —J . X .

l . VEING FOUNDATION STONES . How can non-operative English lodges of Freemasons support their pretensions so as to lay foundation stones of neAVbuildings?—COMMON SENSE .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents ROYAL ARK MARINERS ASfD GRAND MARK LODGE .

10 THE EDlIOll OF THE IBEEMASOMs' MAGAZINE AITD HiSOUIC 3 IIM 10 B . Dear Sir and Brother , —As I have not seen any notice of meeting of Eoyal Ark Mariners , and as you state that you will give the meeting of Grand Mark Lodge next week , and as a long discussion ensued as to the propriety of working the degrees of Ark , Link ,

and Wrestle , being present myself on the occasion , I think it right that it should be known that in answer to a question by Bro . Joshua Nunn , P . G . D ., the M . W . G . M . stated that he did not propose to interfere with the jurisdiction of the Eoyal Ark Mariners , and that there was no objection to anyone who liked taking that degree . I mention this , as I believe souAe doubts

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