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ffiuntntte . PAGE . Recognition of Nova Scotia 201 Chips of Foreign Ashlar—By J . A . H 202 Masonic Government—By Crescent 204 Melrose Abbey and Lodge—By Bro . AV . P . Buchan 205 Masonic Celestial Mysteries—By Bro . Henry Melville 209 The Ancient Records Of the Lodge of Edinburgh ( Mary ' s

Cbapel ) , No . 1—By Bro . D . Murray Lyon 211 Masonic Notes and Queries 211 Correspondence 213 Masonic Mems 215 United Grand Lodge 215 CRAFT LODGE MEETINGS : — Metropolitan 216 Provincial 216

Mark Masonry . _ 218 List of Stewards at the Inauguration Festival , llth April , 1869 219 Poetry 219 Literature , Science , Music , Drama , and the Fine Arts 220 List of Lodge , & c , Meetings for ensuing week 220 . To Correspondents 220

Recognition Of Nova Scotia.

RECOGNITION OF NOVA SCOTIA .

LONDON , SATURDAY , SFFTF 3 XBSU 11 , 1869 .

One of the chief features , among several points of interest , at the last week's quarterly communication of Grand Lodge Avas the debate on the recognition of the independence of the Grand Lodge of Nova Scotia . The debate did not

attract the attention it deserved for various reasons ; one Avas , that tAvo or four score members were anxious to obtain the Zetland medals and depart forthwith , another Avas ignorance of Nova Scotia and the Colonies generally , and the third was

special and happy ignorance of the real circumstances under which the independence of Nova Scotia had to be recognized . The Grand Registrar with great judgment abstained from explaining this , and we can assure the brethren in Nova

Scotia that their independence was as freely and heartily acknowledged by a full Grand Lodge , Avithout reserve , as any well-wisher of Nova Scotia could desire . There was a genuine expression of brotherly sentiment , and their independence was acknowledged with a cordial God speed !

Bro . Brackstone Baker , G . D ., did refer to the Canadian affair , but , as Ave have said , there was a happy ignorance , and he was not understood . The brethren did not comprehend that matters have gone so far in Nova Scotia that , whether the

Grand Lodge of England recognized the new Grand Lodge or not , the result would not have been altered .

Still there were not wanting those who thought that a subject of such importance to Masonic policy should not have been disposed of with little consideration ^ The P . G . Chaplain , Bro . Simpson , officiating as S . G . W ., and Bro . Mason , speaking

from the dais , well expressed this thought . The one who pointed out the bearings of this step on the future career of Grand Lodge was Bro . Hyde Clarke , D J ) . G-. M . for Turkey , but he did not express himself fully , or was not well understood ^

for the nature of his warning made small impression . This was the case even with Bro . Havers P . G . W ., Avho thought that the example of Nova Scotia Avas exceptional , and that we shall never lose Australia or any other colonies , as he

considered that in Canada ancl Nova Scotia Englishmen go to settle for life , but that to Australia they go to make a fortune and return . This was combated by Bro . Francis Bennoch ^ Y . P . of the Colonial Board , and confirmed that

the main body of emigrants become permanent settlers in Australia , and that , even of those who come home , the majority go back after three or four years , finding the social' atmosphere too cold for their pretensions . Bro . Bennoch ,

however , took the ground that it is most desirable to encourage the Masonic independence of our Colonies .

Admitting that , Avhenever the time has coma for recognition it should be heartily conceded ., there are yet some considerations , based on the suggestions of Bro . Hyde Clarke , which are well worthy of attention . Indeed they Avere received

in very complimentary terms by Bro . Havers , anil it is to be hoped that they may by him be turned to practical account . Independence means , in one point of view , diminution of the revenues of Grand Lodge , and that to a very serious extent ,

Of course , when this is unavoidable , well and good ,, and Ave must submit ; but there are many cases where , by judicious administration , the Colonies might be satisfied , causes of disturbance removed , and the connexion be long maintained for the

benefit of Colonial members . All the Colonies are not alike , and this Avas Avell explained by the P . G . M . for China , acting as D . G . M . It requires management and arrangements suitable to each , but unfortunately the Colonial Board is not suited

for any such administration . Most of the members have no real knowledge of the Colonies and foreign districts under their supervision , and a material alteration is required in this respect .

One great cause of disturbance at present appears to be the three G-M- 's and three Grand Lodges competing in each of our colonies , and ; , unless some arrangement be come to by joint agreement to regulate this , not only will the

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RECOGNITION OF NOVA SCOTIA. Article 1
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 2
MASONIC GOVERNMENT. Article 4
MELROSE ABBEY AND LODGE. Article 5
MASONIC CELESTIAL MYSTERIES. Article 9
THE ANCIENT RECORDS OF "THE LODGE OF EDINBURGH (MARY'S CHAPEL)," No. 1. Article 11
NON-OPERATIVE OFFICE-BEARERS OR SCOTCH LODGES IN THE 17TH CENTURY. Article 11
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 11
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 13
"CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR ;" OR, BURNS IMPROVED (pp. 184-186). Article 13
MASONIC DISCIPLINE. Article 13
BROADFOOT, THOMPSON, AND MUGGERIDGE'S RITUAL . Article 14
Untitled Article 15
MASONIC MEMS Article 15
UNITED GRAND LODGE. Article 15
METROPOLITAN. Article 16
PROVINCIAL. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 18
LIST OF STEWARDS AT THE INAUGURATION FESTIVAL, 14TH APRIL, 1869. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
MASONIC SONG. Article 19
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 18TH SEPTEMBER, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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ffiuntntte . PAGE . Recognition of Nova Scotia 201 Chips of Foreign Ashlar—By J . A . H 202 Masonic Government—By Crescent 204 Melrose Abbey and Lodge—By Bro . AV . P . Buchan 205 Masonic Celestial Mysteries—By Bro . Henry Melville 209 The Ancient Records Of the Lodge of Edinburgh ( Mary ' s

Cbapel ) , No . 1—By Bro . D . Murray Lyon 211 Masonic Notes and Queries 211 Correspondence 213 Masonic Mems 215 United Grand Lodge 215 CRAFT LODGE MEETINGS : — Metropolitan 216 Provincial 216

Mark Masonry . _ 218 List of Stewards at the Inauguration Festival , llth April , 1869 219 Poetry 219 Literature , Science , Music , Drama , and the Fine Arts 220 List of Lodge , & c , Meetings for ensuing week 220 . To Correspondents 220

Recognition Of Nova Scotia.

RECOGNITION OF NOVA SCOTIA .

LONDON , SATURDAY , SFFTF 3 XBSU 11 , 1869 .

One of the chief features , among several points of interest , at the last week's quarterly communication of Grand Lodge Avas the debate on the recognition of the independence of the Grand Lodge of Nova Scotia . The debate did not

attract the attention it deserved for various reasons ; one Avas , that tAvo or four score members were anxious to obtain the Zetland medals and depart forthwith , another Avas ignorance of Nova Scotia and the Colonies generally , and the third was

special and happy ignorance of the real circumstances under which the independence of Nova Scotia had to be recognized . The Grand Registrar with great judgment abstained from explaining this , and we can assure the brethren in Nova

Scotia that their independence was as freely and heartily acknowledged by a full Grand Lodge , Avithout reserve , as any well-wisher of Nova Scotia could desire . There was a genuine expression of brotherly sentiment , and their independence was acknowledged with a cordial God speed !

Bro . Brackstone Baker , G . D ., did refer to the Canadian affair , but , as Ave have said , there was a happy ignorance , and he was not understood . The brethren did not comprehend that matters have gone so far in Nova Scotia that , whether the

Grand Lodge of England recognized the new Grand Lodge or not , the result would not have been altered .

Still there were not wanting those who thought that a subject of such importance to Masonic policy should not have been disposed of with little consideration ^ The P . G . Chaplain , Bro . Simpson , officiating as S . G . W ., and Bro . Mason , speaking

from the dais , well expressed this thought . The one who pointed out the bearings of this step on the future career of Grand Lodge was Bro . Hyde Clarke , D J ) . G-. M . for Turkey , but he did not express himself fully , or was not well understood ^

for the nature of his warning made small impression . This was the case even with Bro . Havers P . G . W ., Avho thought that the example of Nova Scotia Avas exceptional , and that we shall never lose Australia or any other colonies , as he

considered that in Canada ancl Nova Scotia Englishmen go to settle for life , but that to Australia they go to make a fortune and return . This was combated by Bro . Francis Bennoch ^ Y . P . of the Colonial Board , and confirmed that

the main body of emigrants become permanent settlers in Australia , and that , even of those who come home , the majority go back after three or four years , finding the social' atmosphere too cold for their pretensions . Bro . Bennoch ,

however , took the ground that it is most desirable to encourage the Masonic independence of our Colonies .

Admitting that , Avhenever the time has coma for recognition it should be heartily conceded ., there are yet some considerations , based on the suggestions of Bro . Hyde Clarke , which are well worthy of attention . Indeed they Avere received

in very complimentary terms by Bro . Havers , anil it is to be hoped that they may by him be turned to practical account . Independence means , in one point of view , diminution of the revenues of Grand Lodge , and that to a very serious extent ,

Of course , when this is unavoidable , well and good ,, and Ave must submit ; but there are many cases where , by judicious administration , the Colonies might be satisfied , causes of disturbance removed , and the connexion be long maintained for the

benefit of Colonial members . All the Colonies are not alike , and this Avas Avell explained by the P . G . M . for China , acting as D . G . M . It requires management and arrangements suitable to each , but unfortunately the Colonial Board is not suited

for any such administration . Most of the members have no real knowledge of the Colonies and foreign districts under their supervision , and a material alteration is required in this respect .

One great cause of disturbance at present appears to be the three G-M- 's and three Grand Lodges competing in each of our colonies , and ; , unless some arrangement be come to by joint agreement to regulate this , not only will the

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